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  1. Another factor to think about is the ability of cruise lines to get their crews 100% vaccinated. Consider that most of the crew members aren't in the older age demographic, and so won't be at the head of the line for vaccines. Will there be special carve-outs of large quantities of vaccines for hospitality and entertainment workers? And then, there's the issue of how much trouble cruise lines will have assembling a full and well-trained staff. Some cruise line employees have decided to move on to other forms of work. Some are still recovering from their ordeal returning home after
  2. All of us who are eager travel again want to parse the if's and when's to figure out when we will be able to travel, and the key thing to realize is that we don't know, and probably won't for awhile longer. Will the drug rollout start off okay? Will there be delays in manufacturing or delivery? How will availability be allocated once the most obvious critical-need people get the first wave? How will the need to share vaccines worldwide impact availability in our countries? Will there be any setbacks in effectiveness, or the as-yet unknown duration of immunity? How will the arrival of vaccines
  3. @christraveller You're probably aware, but it's often the second Shingrix shot that hits some people a little hard. I had no reaction to the first one, but the second one really slowed me down for a day (nothing too bad, just very sluggish snd made me crawl back into bed for most of the afternoon). I doubt a few weeks into the COVID vaccines will yield any useful information. A lot of people have had these shots across the multiple clinical trials. What we don't know is if the 95% efficacy rate will hold in a large population, and work equally well for all ages, races and ethni
  4. @etual324 We're so hoping to be with you on that holiday cruise on the Wind. We're hoping they go through with the retrofit of the Wind so we have a ship to sail on! Look forward to meeting you… despite your Giants fandom. 😉
  5. And now SeaDream has canceled all their planned Caribbean cruises for the winter season. Pretty much a complete failure. One step forward, five steps back…
  6. Seabourn is currently shut down until April 2021. That's a long time from now, in a world where developments change monthly and sometimes weekly. To be sure, the SeaDream mess doesn't do any favors to the entire cruise industry, but there's no way to project its impact 4-5 months from now. (I'd note that Silversea chartered one of its ships for weekly cruises in the Red Sea; the first one had a COVID case, but the following cruises apparently ran without incident.) Seabourn has its hands full now re-developing its US-based itineraries to not exceed 7 days, but I wouldn't otherwise expect to he
  7. Keep in mind that there are a number of different COVID vaccine candidates being tested, and they use some remarkably different approaches. The Pfizer vaccine, for instance is a new type of RNA technology which has never been deployed in a vaccine before. Whether it will be recommended for people who don't get flu shots or have other immune system issues is not yet known. Nor is it known if it will be as effective for older people; some vaccines like flu vaccines protect younger people better than older people. Some of the other vaccines under development but further behind in test
  8. I'd also consider that the number of people who say they won't get the vaccine will probably decline over time, if it turns out there's a reliable and safe vaccine. People said they wouldn't get a vaccine when it was being described as rushed, when it was politicized, and when nothing was known about how effective it would be. If we can take the politics out of it, if the efficacy rate is better than expected, if there are no bad side effects, if multiple vaccines prove effective, if... lots of ifs, but I think more people will end up getting vaccinated if all goes well.
  9. @hamrag That article (which is more than two months old) talks about why 30% effectiveness would be a bad thing, but it doesn't actually say there are any "reports that the effectiveness is more likely to be 30%". Nor does it mention only short effectiveness. No one has the data on the duration or the efficacy vaccines being tested yet. Well, until Pfizer became the first to share partial results, which fortunately seem strong enough to make this discussion moot. 😉
  10. @markham I agree! If Pfizer's early data -- showing a 90% effectiveness rate -- holds up as they get data from a larger sample, that would be a huge victory. It still won't confer guaranteed immunity, but it will give even better odds of blocking infection than we've been led to expect by scientists over the past few months. Importantly, if a large percentage of the population gets such a vaccine -- and we know that's a very big 'if' at the moment -- it will tamp down severely on future community spread of the disease. That is, the disease will still exist, but it won't spread much because mos
  11. First, I did not advance any "theory." Second, there has been no release of data on vaccine effectiveness yet, because not one of the vaccine candidate trials have concluded yet. In the US, medical experts have said they'd need to see effectiveness of at least 50% to approve a vaccine. But vaccine effectiveness varies widely depending on the disease, from 50-60% up to 98+%. The speculation has been that a COVID vaccine will be on the lower end because it will be similar to flu vaccines. But it's worth noting that there are a wide variety of approaches to creating a COVID vaccine, s
  12. It's highly likely there will be a vaccine with some availability in 2021. But it's important for everyone to set their expectations regarding "reliable." The vaccine(s) that become available next year will significantly decrease the chance of getting the disease, and may possibly reduce its impact if you do -- but it's almost certain that a vaccine won't give anyone a guarantee of not getting the virus. The vaccine may be only 60% effective, or if we're lucky, closer to 80% effective. But it will not provide complete immunity; it will significantly improve your odds.
  13. I was thinking more of possible "COVIDization" modifications. Such possible things as… changes in public areas for greater separation/spacing in dining rooms, theater, etc. modifications to ventilation systems to better separate the outflow of air from suites and public spaces modifications to wastewater systems which can carry the virus modifications to the medical area to create more/separate exam and quarantine areas, and or to build space for a testing lab That's all speculation on my part; I was just wondering if any such changes might be getting made to make s
  14. Malta has some large shipyards. I was wondering if they're sending Spirit in for any work during the downtime. Any retrofits to be better prepared for cruising while COVID remains with us? Or just going there to park for awhile?
  15. …with its next cruise not scheduled until January from Hong Kong. Silver Spirit is scheduled to resume cruising January 4 with several cruises in southeast Asia from January through March, when it heads to India and thru the Suez Canal near the end of March, for a spring season of cruises in the Mediterranean. I guess we'll get some good early indication if they really think those January-March cruises will sail if the Spirit leaves the Mediterranean bound for Hong Kong in the next month. If not, they won't send the ship around the world just to return to the Mediterranean within a
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