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  1. Yes, and until Florida and Alaska really started turning up the political heat, the CDC wasn't doing that. The cruise lines were basically begging for realistic, practicable guidelines to restart cruising, and the CDC appeared to be giving them the brush off. And that was well after vaccines had become available in the U.S. Even if the CDC had said 'Okay, cruising is only okay with 100% vaccination rates and do a test cruise first,' prior to all that, at least it would've been something. So with some of us, the CDC bears the stigma of their obstructionism, which undermines what goo
  2. Not only did mine show back up yesterday, but I booked VOOM Surf + Stream since, IIRC, it looked a couple bucks cheaper per day than what I'd seen offered before. Richard.
  3. Thanks for posting about this. It's got potential to be an important precedent. Some 'thought leader' types have predicted a pandemic for years, and sadly it's likely this sort of thing will happen again at some point in the future. The vast amount of economic damage to the cruise industry (I've read 20 billion dollars for 2020, and lines selling off a number of ships) will take a long time to recoup. I don't know what financing arrangements the lines worked out to stay afloat (yep, had to go there...). And they should be okay...this time. So, what happens if we have another pande
  4. From what I've seen over time, there seems to almost always be a sale going on, albeit not always the same one. 30% off all guests, 60% off 2nd guest, kids sail free...they mix it up a bit. Depending on how many of you are going and whether any are kids, it may be worthwhile waiting for a sale that matches your group demographics.
  5. It's back just now...in Chrome. 'Plan My Cruise' shows me a stalled out screen, and says it's unavailable, but at least the cruise itself is in the system.
  6. Our one cruise for 2022 isn't showing up; Safari, and since seeing this thread and trying, Firefox and Chrome, all 3 didn't work. Thanks for starting this thread, by the way. Good to know it's not just me effected. Richard.
  7. Assuming that drinks package includes alcohol, that may not be as 'fair' as it seems at first. Years ago, I learned that when comparing computers (say, a Mac to a PC), if you take one rather specialized one already sold as a package, and you take a different one from a competitor and pick a range of custom choices trying to match the first, the first computer has the advantage. And so it is here. I imagine 'included drinks' looks like a real 'win' for some people. Neither I nor our school age child drink alcohol, and my wife might have a very few margaritas on a week-long cruise. T
  8. I voted 'yes,' as I don't have a specific plan to do it but I am open to it. We've flown down to Puerto Rico to catch a cruise before; I'm open to regarding Nassau-based cruises the same way. I'd rather cruise out of Fort Lauderdale or Miami, but hey...any Royal big ship cruise in a pandemic, you know?
  9. This needs to happen. Cruising is way too dependent on the U.S. home port market and the CDC is too grossly risk-avoidant without adequately addressing other concerns. If this were about minimum restrictions in the face of pandemic risks, authorizing 50% capacity, vaccinated passenger and crew only, 'cruises to nowhere' (with a Jones' Act temporary exemption, etc...) could've been done. There's legitimate epidemiology-based restriction in the face of a pandemic...and there's draconian neglect toward a large industry hemorrhaging vast amounts of money. Diversifying home ports, even
  10. Down the road that may well be. I question how likely that is to be in place by July, for example. While different states are prioritizing groups a bit differently, front-line healthcare workers and nursing home residences are high priority, as as advanced elderly and those with high risk medical conditions. While prisoners aren't the most sympathy-garnering group, considering their environment they are high risk. Looking at vaccine supplies and projected approvals (today in a professional e-mail read Astrazena/Oxford's is likely to get U.S. approval in April 2021), and I don't think vaccine t
  11. From what I'm hearing on You Tube, odds of cruising restarting in March aren't good, but there's an outside chance it can. We already know that in the near-term future, cruises over 7 days are a no-go. Ships have to be in U.S. waters, become eligible to do test cruises, get CDC approval...and so...whenever cruising 'really' resumes, April, May, June, etc...I'm curious as to which ships will likely go as schedule. The other big issue is whether RCI will cancel and reschedule ships, or 'trade ships' (bring another in to do the itinerary), for cruises currently scheduled even if cruis
  12. I hope so...I'm booked on Symphony of the Seas in July. I, too, have hopes for the vaccine. But here's a 'wrench in the gears...' The approved vaccines haven't had clinical trials with children, last I checked (which was recently). One of them is for people 18 and older, the other for 16 and older. Even if a lot of adults are vaccinated by then, I imagine most children won't be. And the Oasis-class ships are family ships, catering to families with children. Then there's the question of what 'social distancing' will mean for use of pools, Splash-a-Way Bay a
  13. That's an enormous over-generalization. First off, there's a huge facility rate discrepancy between children and the elderly. Secondly, comorbid medical conditions such as diabetes can substantially raise risk. Thirdly, if you're young, healthy and lucky, that's nice...but not so much for the elder in line at the grocery store you spread it to when you don't even know you're sick. And infectiousness is present before symptom onset in many people. Men are higher risk, obese people are higher risk, elders are higher risk, there's a lot going on here. Some survivors have chronic sympto
  14. I just compiled on info. on the vaccine situation into a post on another forum, thinking in terms of a land trip to Bonaire. Since it may be useful here, I'll also paste that here: I don’t know how closely you guys follow the vaccine-development effort; Pfizer has submitted an application for emergency use authorization for an mRNA vaccine and hopefully we’ll have it soon; it needs to be stored at -70 degrees C (-94 degrees F), which is a big problem for storage and transportation; it's 2 shots, 21 days apart. Moderna also has a mRNA candidate up and coming, and its cold-requiremen
  15. There are a couple of problems inherent to this. 1.) Science doesn't give the right answer, it just informs policy. Science doesn't give us the moral value of a human life or a healthy economy. It also doesn't always provide the clear guidance we might with. Absent impractical scientific research like a large study with multiple cruises under proposed guidelines and follow up testing for case incidence and 'super spreader' events, if any...we're reduced to asking some scientists (many of whom have probably never been on a cruise and just read about them) to make a guess. That kind
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