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On 6/20/2021 at 3:32 AM, Kbonner said:
Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere here on CC.
The following article reports of problems with tourists entering the USA with Astra vaccination?
If true this has implications for foreigners cruising from Florida as well?
(Just asking for a friend- I am a Biontech/Pfizer guy)
I’m not sure why this would matter. You only need a negative COVID test to enter. You don’t have to be vaccinated to enter the U.S.
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8 hours ago, IntrepidFromDC said:
Reading all the positive opinions on YTD, maybe we should give it another try. We did once and the waiting was painful. Looooonnnngg line just to get the pager to buzz, then another 20-40 minutes waiting for the buzz to be seated, and had to wait within a certain distance of the restaurant entrance. When I go to a restaurant I'm hungry. I don't want to wait 30-50 minutes to get seated. Every night, whether we came at 7 or 8.
That’s interesting. We have never had to wait. Are you normally a larger party?
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I like the ability to eat when I want in the MDR. I also like that I can sit basically alone with my wife and not interact with others if we choose not too.
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Well it seems like the just made FTTF pointless. Am I the only one who read it that way?
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2 minutes ago, Joe817 said:
Not to hijack the thread, but I noticed in the 3rd bullet point:
"Vaccinated guests may participate in Carnival-sponsored tours or independent activities. We are in the process of finalizing our tours and expect more availability to be added in the next few weeks. Please check back on Carnival.com by the end of the month."
Independent activities. I'm taking that to read we can venture out on our own, make shore excursions outside of Carnival sponsored excursions.....basically do what ever we want to on our own. Does this apply to all ships that are sailing in August, or only just the M.G. ? We love venturing out on our own.
Thoughts anybody?
I took that the same way. I'm actually sailing on the breeze and this is the message they sent me.
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There were day I could literally fell the ocean spray on my face in the morning. That alone was enough for me.
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Nice. its looking more and more like vaccinated only cruises at least through Aug. This Means almost Normal cruising for those vaccinated. I'm booked for early Aug on the Breeze and boy does this make me that much more excited about it.
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26 minutes ago, stellarose said:
if you do not voluntarily show vaccination proof, you don't get a wrist band. Vaccinated get wrist bands and yes all guests wear masks inside.
- They will not be able to sign up for My Time Dining in the ship’s main dining room — the type of dining where passengers can arrive whenever they want and sit with whomever they want. They’ll be restricted to a fixed dining time and be assigned to a designated area specifically for unvaccinated passengers.
- They will not be able to participate in some activities.
- They will not be able to access all venues.
- They will not be able to attend certain performances of theater shows that will be restricted to vaccinated passengers only.
oh please CCL keep with the 95% vaccinated so I can get on the Mardi Gras this fall- safely and healthy.
they are fired up on the RCL boards.
You might be in luck I just got this email today.
View Online 
OPERATIONAL UPDATE
MARDI GRAS JULY 31 AND AUGUST 2021 SAILINGS
Dear Carnival Guest:
We are excited about getting to welcome you aboard your upcoming cruise in August. We know you are awaiting more details about pre-cruise and onboard protocols and procedures and we want to thank you for your patience while we finalized our plans.
Our Have Fun. Be Safe. protocols and procedures have been designed to maximize the health and safety of our guests and crew while delivering a fun and memorable vacation experience.
Please take note of our Have Fun. Be Safe. guidelines we expect to follow:- Guests, including children who are age-eligible for vaccines, will need to be vaccinated and show proof of vaccination in advance of boarding. (As a reminder, fully vaccinated is defined as receiving the final dose of a vaccine at least 14 days before embarkation.) For your reference, any vaccine approved by either the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or the World Health Organization (WHO) meets this requirement.
- According to current CDC guidelines, vaccinated guests on your sailing will not be required to wear face masks or physical distance while on board. However, masks are required at the cruise terminal during embarkation.
- Vaccinated guests may participate in Carnival-sponsored tours or independent activities. We are in the process of finalizing our tours and expect more availability to be added in the next few weeks. Please check back on Carnival.com by the end of the month.
- All guests are required to follow the protocols and requirements for each destination while ashore. These restrictions are under the control of local government and are subject to change without advance notice. We encourage you to come prepared for potential requirements ashore which may apply to health screening/testing, masks, physical distancing, organized tours/independent activities, etc.
We know there are some guests who are ineligible or unable to meet the vaccination requirements and we want to provide them with more information on our decision. The current CDC requirements for cruising with a guest base that is unvaccinated are much more restrictive and will make it very difficult to deliver the experience our guests expect especially given the large number of families with younger children who sail with us. Specifically, the current CDC requirements for cruises with unvaccinated guests require that vaccinated guests wear a face mask indoors and that all unvaccinated guests undergo testing at the embarkation terminal (and within 24 hours of debark if the cruise is longer than 4 days). This requirement applies to all unvaccinated guests, including children, along with physical distancing requirements that will have to be maintained between guests on board.
We are in regular communication with the CDC requesting that more manageable guidelines be adopted, especially as it relates to families traveling with children under the age of 12 who are ineligible for vaccination. Until those guidelines are revised, our only alternative is to sail with vaccinated guests. We also continue to work with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on our plans for our Florida based ships.
We know this is disappointing to those guests who are unable to be or have not been vaccinated, including the many children who are booked to sail with us for their summer vacation. We had to make some difficult decisions based on where we are with the CDC, general public health guidelines, and the overall health and safety of our guests and crew.
We remain optimistic that requirements for cruising from the U.S. will continue to evolve and our approach to future sailings will become more flexible. However, at this time we must follow the guidance we have as of today.
As we operate to meet the CDC guidelines, there is an exemption process to accommodate a small number of guests who are unable or ineligible to be vaccinated (children under 12 and other exceptions as required by federal law). The current standard to meet the CDC’s criteria for a fully vaccinated cruise – under which guests can sail without a mask and other restrictions – is that at least 95 percent of all guests on board are fully vaccinated.
Please click here to submit an application for an exemption if a member of your party meets our criteria. Exemption request must be completed by end of day June 25. It’s important to note that the number of exemptions will be a very small subset, will largely be children under 12, and it will be less than 5 percent of guests to account for no shows and other operational matters. And, we cannot begin to process these requests until after all final payments are received on June 21 and we have certainty on the total number of guests on board – so that we can determine the number of exemptions. But we are committed to moving as quickly as possible.
In the meantime, it is important that you make sure your booking is up to date, which includes the names and ages of all guests in your party. You can manage that in the MyCruisePlanner function on Carnival.com, with your Personal Vacation Planner, your travel agent or by calling us at 1-800-CARNIVAL.
If you determine the time is not right for you to sail, please call 1-800-CARNIVAL, your Personal Vacation Planner or your travel advisor who can help you rebook for a later date. We have ship itineraries open through 2024 and as previously communicated, we have extended your ability to rebook or request a full refund until Monday, June 21. After that date, our regular fare rules will apply.
Ultimately, we are focused and committed to following all guidelines, protecting public health, AND delivering to our guests, a FUN Carnival cruise vacation. We look forward to seeing you on a Carnival cruise next month.
Sincerely,
Christine Duffy
President, Carnival Cruise Line -
View Online OPERATIONAL UPDATE
MARDI GRAS JULY 31 AND AUGUST 2021 SAILINGS
Dear Carnival Guest:
We are excited about getting to welcome you aboard your upcoming cruise in August. We know you are awaiting more details about pre-cruise and onboard protocols and procedures and we want to thank you for your patience while we finalized our plans.
Our Have Fun. Be Safe. protocols and procedures have been designed to maximize the health and safety of our guests and crew while delivering a fun and memorable vacation experience.
Please take note of our Have Fun. Be Safe. guidelines we expect to follow:- Guests, including children who are age-eligible for vaccines, will need to be vaccinated and show proof of vaccination in advance of boarding. (As a reminder, fully vaccinated is defined as receiving the final dose of a vaccine at least 14 days before embarkation.) For your reference, any vaccine approved by either the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) or the World Health Organization (WHO) meets this requirement.
- According to current CDC guidelines, vaccinated guests on your sailing will not be required to wear face masks or physical distance while on board. However, masks are required at the cruise terminal during embarkation.
- Vaccinated guests may participate in Carnival-sponsored tours or independent activities. We are in the process of finalizing our tours and expect more availability to be added in the next few weeks. Please check back on Carnival.com by the end of the month.
- All guests are required to follow the protocols and requirements for each destination while ashore. These restrictions are under the control of local government and are subject to change without advance notice. We encourage you to come prepared for potential requirements ashore which may apply to health screening/testing, masks, physical distancing, organized tours/independent activities, etc.
We know there are some guests who are ineligible or unable to meet the vaccination requirements and we want to provide them with more information on our decision. The current CDC requirements for cruising with a guest base that is unvaccinated are much more restrictive and will make it very difficult to deliver the experience our guests expect especially given the large number of families with younger children who sail with us. Specifically, the current CDC requirements for cruises with unvaccinated guests require that vaccinated guests wear a face mask indoors and that all unvaccinated guests undergo testing at the embarkation terminal (and within 24 hours of debark if the cruise is longer than 4 days). This requirement applies to all unvaccinated guests, including children, along with physical distancing requirements that will have to be maintained between guests on board.
We are in regular communication with the CDC requesting that more manageable guidelines be adopted, especially as it relates to families traveling with children under the age of 12 who are ineligible for vaccination. Until those guidelines are revised, our only alternative is to sail with vaccinated guests. We also continue to work with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on our plans for our Florida based ships.
We know this is disappointing to those guests who are unable to be or have not been vaccinated, including the many children who are booked to sail with us for their summer vacation. We had to make some difficult decisions based on where we are with the CDC, general public health guidelines, and the overall health and safety of our guests and crew.
We remain optimistic that requirements for cruising from the U.S. will continue to evolve and our approach to future sailings will become more flexible. However, at this time we must follow the guidance we have as of today.
As we operate to meet the CDC guidelines, there is an exemption process to accommodate a small number of guests who are unable or ineligible to be vaccinated (children under 12 and other exceptions as required by federal law). The current standard to meet the CDC’s criteria for a fully vaccinated cruise – under which guests can sail without a mask and other restrictions – is that at least 95 percent of all guests on board are fully vaccinated.
Please click here to submit an application for an exemption if a member of your party meets our criteria. Exemption request must be completed by end of day June 25. It’s important to note that the number of exemptions will be a very small subset, will largely be children under 12, and it will be less than 5 percent of guests to account for no shows and other operational matters. And, we cannot begin to process these requests until after all final payments are received on June 21 and we have certainty on the total number of guests on board – so that we can determine the number of exemptions. But we are committed to moving as quickly as possible.
In the meantime, it is important that you make sure your booking is up to date, which includes the names and ages of all guests in your party. You can manage that in the MyCruisePlanner function on Carnival.com, with your Personal Vacation Planner, your travel agent or by calling us at 1-800-CARNIVAL.
If you determine the time is not right for you to sail, please call 1-800-CARNIVAL, your Personal Vacation Planner or your travel advisor who can help you rebook for a later date. We have ship itineraries open through 2024 and as previously communicated, we have extended your ability to rebook or request a full refund until Monday, June 21. After that date, our regular fare rules will apply.
Ultimately, we are focused and committed to following all guidelines, protecting public health, AND delivering to our guests, a FUN Carnival cruise vacation. We look forward to seeing you on a Carnival cruise next month.
Sincerely,
Christine Duffy
President, Carnival Cruise Line-
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5 hours ago, simplelife said:
I miss almost everything mentioned here. For the first time, I have 3 booked cruises on my calendar, Can't wait to begin sailing again.
Same.
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I miss everything. I hope that all changes at the start of Aug for me.
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1 minute ago, firefly333 said:
Even engineer chen who posts here and loves the cdc and a huge cdc supportive. ... he too agrees the cdc doesnt just fade away when nov 1st comes. Either the cso extended or new rules come out. Unless covid is gone cdc will be in cruisers lives past nov 1st is my prediction.
I agree. I don’t think they just fade-away either. Not the same as being power hungry. Simply doing their job.
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24 minutes ago, firefly333 said:
I wouldnt book with 3 kids. I'd only book vaccinated adults, or over 12 vaccinated at the very ,east.
You know it will not be the same. Excursions might be only thru the cruiseline.
You have to believe the cdc isnt power hungry and will lift the cso and impose nothing else to book with 3 kids. Just my opinion, and I'm listening to roll calls in limbo. Waiting ..
I believe the cdc isn’t power hungry but I still wouldn’t book with unvaccinated people. I too might have issues with some of the restrictions that come along with being unvaccinated. I also think by then younger kids will be able to be vaccinated. Either way good luck and have fun.
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I’m cruising May 2022. I am literally only doing this cruise for the ship. None of the ports interest me. But I have to be on that ship because it’s so different then anything carnival has.
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3 hours ago, Honolulu Blue said:
Quoting from the article you thoughtfully provided:
the executive order bars state agencies, local governments and political subdivisions from requiring "vaccine passports," or proof of vaccination, as a condition for receiving government services or gaining access to any building, facility or geographic location.
My layman's interpretation without a thorough read of the relevant executive order (please don't make me do that!) is that it's only state and local government agencies that are banned from asking for proof of vaccination. So Carnival looks to be fine asking for vaccine proof should they want to do so
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20 hours ago, MeganGC1983 said:
We had 5 canceled in the spring. Finally just went to Mexico. Sorry in advance, just in case. I’ve felt that pain!
We ended up just going to Mexico too. While it was fun it was no cruise… I can’t wait to get back at it and it looks like Texas will be sailing in July. Fingers crossed.
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8 hours ago, Radiioman46 said:
No more confusion. I like that! i feel really bad for those that are not vaccinated because this is a real last minute flip, and I know it hurts. But, even though I favor not being forced to be vaccinated, the CDC's protocols for a mixed set of passengers is totally unworkable for everybody. It would have been a disaster. So, let's cruise!
No one is being forced to get vaccinated. They have a choice get vaccinated or don’t cruise… for now. I wouldn’t risk my business on people who are willing to protect them selves.
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8 hours ago, 19cruiser59 said:
Just announced, Vaccines required sailing from Galveston in July only.
I’m booking right now.
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14 minutes ago, WhaleTailFlCruiser said:
Um No it isn't lol. Desantis can provide an exemption like they have been working towards.
He’s to foolish and stubborn to do that. After-all, he got himself into this mess.
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2 hours ago, lazydayz said:
We are scheduled for the July 10th cruise from Miami and just received this via e-mail.
Dear Carnival Horizon Guest:
We are looking forward to welcoming you on board Carnival Horizon for your upcoming cruise in July. We have been working to navigate through the evolving guidance for restarting our ships in the U.S. We appreciate the support for our U.S. restart and the industry continues to be in regular communication with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) requesting that more manageable guidelines be adopted, especially as it relates to families traveling with children under the age of 12 who are ineligible for vaccination.
The current CDC requirements for cruising with a guest base that is unvaccinated are much more restrictive and will make it very difficult to deliver the experience our guests expect especially given the large number of families with younger children who sail with us.
Earlier today we announced that we plan to operate our ships sailing from Galveston during the month of July with vaccinated guests. This approach, however, requires guests to provide proof of vaccination at time of check-in which is currently prohibited in the State of Florida.
As stated above, we continue to work with CDC on its requirements for unvaccinated guests, especially children under the age of 12 and we are working with the Governor of Florida to find a resolution so we can begin cruising from Florida in the same manner that we are sailing from Galveston in July and satisfy their requirements.
We will provide an update by Friday, June 11, regarding protocols specific to your cruise in July. As previously communicated, we have extended your ability to rebook or request a full refund until Monday, June 14.
We continue to believe these matters will be resolved in time for Carnival Horizon’s first departure from Miami on July 4 and we remain optimistic that requirements for cruising from the U.S. will continue to evolve and our approach to future sailings will become more flexible. However, at this time we must follow the requirements we have as of today.
Ultimately, we are focused and committed to following all guidelines, protecting public health, AND delivering to our guests, a FUN Carnival cruise vacation.
Thank you to all our guests, travel advisors and other stakeholders who have been patient and supportive as we work through this process.
Sincerely,http://image.carnivalcruiselineemail.com/lib/fe9513727761047c7c/m/16/bd3f70f3-0423-4959-8e06-f79b51e6b9d9.jpg Christine Duffy
President, Carnival Cruise Line
Looks like I’m rolling this dice and booking out of Galveston mid July. Worst thing that can happen is a get more on board credits for a future cruise.
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20 hours ago, asalligo said:
Wow, we certainly argue hard over something we have absolutely no control over. Either vaccines will or will not be required and each person will just have to decide if they are willing to cruise under the rules.
I personally think that vaccines will be required for the first few cruises and then the requirement will be dropped within two months of cruising resuming. Everything is almost back to normal now. Cruising will be soon also.
This makes a lot of sense but remember we are dealing with the Fl governor here so we might still be on hold out of Fl. Vaccinated only cruises are the only way to do this without risking shutting down cruising all together again.
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On 1/23/2021 at 12:48 PM, teknoge3k said:
It's depressing. I know how May cruise will likely be cancelled, so I just went ahead and booked 2 all-inclusive resorts in the Dominican Republic. At least if the cruise is cancelled, we have a backup plan and something to do. That's what we did last year when our cruise was cancelled as well and it made the summer much more enjoyable.
I’m doing the same but in Mexico.
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I was in the same boat. I decided that I would make the final payment and take the future cruise credit and the onboard credit. For me it was an easy choice because the money I set aside for this cruise will not be used for anything else. Now if I had to have it for something else then canceling is clearly the better choice them paying in full.
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16 hours ago, MeganGC1983 said:
Looking like the inaugural Mardi Gras will sail May 29th now.
I’m on that sailing. I hope it goes but not counting on it.
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Silly mask question but......
in Carnival Cruise Lines
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wearing a mask might affects their abilities to sing or play. also the other crew will likely wear mask so it seems the OP just wanted to know if performers would do the same.