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    Commercially endorsed Yachtmaster, enjoy travel particularly to Asia.

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  1. Able Seaman H

    Europa 2 -v- Seabourn Odyssey

    I've just read through the whole thread and found it an informative read. I too have looked at Europa 2 and indeed seen her at close quarters sailing in and out of Portsmouth - we have a modest Penthouse for occasional use overlooking the harbour 🙂 Europa is definitely a much more expensive cruise and for us that is the deal breaker, we enjoy Seabourn, don't need any more looking after so probably wouldn't benefit from the extras. I also enjoy my conversations with fellow guests. I am interested to hear your views after sailing on Encore / Ovation. To my mind they raise the bar when it comes to interior fir out. More like a private yacht. The changes are often very subtle, wooden trim on the outside of a winding staircase rather than steel, panels in the lifts and so on but combined you do feel as though you are in a different space. Yes, the theatre is still a single height space but Thomas Keller becomes a proper eating space with a dedicated bar area (open to all), sushi chips in with a dining alternative - go in the evening and let them bring you a selection topped up what you fancy. I'm not suggesting one is better than the other but await your thoughts on the newer Seabourn ships which might address some of the shortcomings you identified. Dare I say it as someone clearly not cost averse you might even find sanctuary within the infamous Retreat area !!!! Anyway, have fun and let us know how you get on. Henry 🙂
  2. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn Christmas, New Year Cruise

    And a video covering the Singapore Hong Kong cruise specifically. Henry 🙂
  3. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn Christmas, New Year Cruise

    Henry
  4. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn Christmas, New Year Cruise

    We've done the last few years onboard with Seabourn and it is a wonderful experience. The right mix of Christmas without being over the top - bar the elf outfits on Christmas Day :) New Years Eve is also a good celebration. There will be one off events from the crew and entertainment staff, special meals and so on. This is in addition to all the usual Seabourn elements that make the brand what's it is. Sadly for s year the pricing got a bit silly so we have other plans ashore in Thailand but the Seabourn product is excellent. I will post up a link to the last Christmas cruise we did. Henry
  5. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn pricing !

    Ah, I see. If I'm honest I struggle to see the value between many of the V grades. A basic cabin and a Penhouse suite are very different beasts but the same cabin on different decks or different parts of the ship? I'm not so sure. Is it really worth paying £1,500 more for next door, identical size, layout, soap, toilet paper, bed, pillows and amenities? Anyway, have a great cruise if you're going to be onboard. I hear too many stories on here where Seabourn fail to honour price drops to hand over my money on the basis I'll get the best deal come what may. We're all booked up for Christmas and New Year in the beautiful Krabi Province, just sorting out a rather nice suite for Bangkok pre Christmas & working out a way to keep the girls out of all those shops...... :) Henry :)
  6. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn pricing !

    Had a missed call from number 2 travel agent yesterday saying cabins were now available and prices were coming down. Price down from £8,500 per person to £7,300 per person. Still expensive by about £800 but moving in the right direction. Too late for us as we are booked elsewhere now but I can't help feeling something has gone wrong when there is such a huge swing in pricing. People are going to get very upset when they discover they paid £4,000 or more too much for their basic cabin and ultimately Seabourn have lost out on our business breaking a chain that has held together for 5 years. Henry :)
  7. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn pricing !

    We won't be cruising this Christmas due to the pricing. Instead we are saving a lot of money and taking a land based holiday in Thailand. There are some cruises on Seabourn that offer superb value for money but on this occasion the price premium for a Seabourn cruise was just too glaring to ignore. Our whole trip staying in Small luxury Hotels of the world accommodation will cost less than the first person fare on Ovation. A lot less :) So Father Christmas will be able to fund a new carbon road bike for me, a trip to Cartier for Mrs Able Seaman and Emily's first years accommodation at university :) :) Henry :)
  8. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn pricing !

    The V1 suites on deck 7 are a bit smaller and don't have a bath, only a shower. On all other decks the V class suites are essentially the same, just in different positions. There are 2 schools of thought when it comes to booking your accommodation. Some people are absolutely rigid in terms of where they want to be on the ship and pay a premium to achieve this. For my own part I am less worried and am happy to take a bit of a risk. The guarantee fares when offered are slightly less than a V1 but you won't get allocated your cabin until close to sailing date. You will usually get offered chances to upgrade to a higher grade nearer to the cruise for less than the advertised fare difference and even if you don't opt to pay extra money it's rare to actually get a V1 but it could happen so don't go running to mummy or screaming on here if you do. Them's the rules :) Again, no right or wrong here but we usually leave it to chance and see what happens. Travelling as we do with 3 in the cabin means we are usually allocated a specific cabin and there has been a bit of haggling in terms of the grade. We paid a bit more than the guarantee fare but were allocated a V5 or V6. One one occasion we took a penthouse suite upgrade offer for substantially less than the advertised price difference. Have we ever had a "bad" cabin? No, not really but we are very easy going. In the past on deck 5 we have been woken by the anchor being dropped and the gangway being taken out of storage / deployed but I wouldn't say it ruined our cruise. Ultimately we paid less to be on board. It will all come down to your own personal circumstances and aversion to spending money :) Henry :)
  9. Able Seaman H

    Sweepstake

    Seabourn already do have UK specific campaigns by offering promotional fares to key re-sellers from time to time. Some markets respond better to different types of promotion. We already have different rules for some promotions within the UK. Northern Ireland has different rules compared to the rest of the UK. If sales are flagging in one territory but not another you can't penalise a company for targeted campaigning. Henry :)
  10. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn pricing !

    I get the impression she's showing her age a bit now. The one thing we like about Seabourn is everything being in good order. They try to nip stuff in the bud and obviously the new ships are just that, new ! Henry :)
  11. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn pricing !

    Just to add closure to the thread we have had to move away from Seabourn on this occasion. We were offered an acceptable deal with Silverseas on Silver Shadow for a variation of the Ovation itinerary with some interesting overnight stops but felt it wouldn't be the best ship on which to try Silverseas for the first time. Henry :)
  12. Able Seaman H

    Sweepstake

    I think Rols gave a pretty clear explanation. There are times when the border free reach of the internet is out of line with the terrestrial world an this is an example. Seabourn have to price on a world stage but there will be differences in local law. In the UK for instance we enjoy more protection than many other countries so their job is not an easy one. Don't penalise Seabourn for laws beyond their control or for wanting to target a local audience. Henry :)
  13. Able Seaman H

    Worst cruise in 20 years

    And that is the Seabourn I know and enjoy.. I too came on here with a first post that was full of anger (towards Royal Caribbean, not Seabourn. So I do understand that it can sometimes be a catalyst to signing up. Henry :)
  14. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn pricing !

    The Antarctica cruise is the most expensive to operate hence pricing (normally). Asia is cheaper. Silverseas have a Singapore to Hong Kong cruise that Shadows the Ovation sailing (can you see what I did there :) ), and has overnight stays in all the ports, free excursions and money off deals. I know they are different cruise lines but it shows the port charges aren't excessive. We can get onto the same Ovation sailing next Christmas for £4,000 less. We aren't that nice in the flesh, we just present well on Cruise Critic :) Henry :)
  15. Able Seaman H

    Seabourn pricing !

    I know, madness. Either somehing has gone a bit wrong with the pricing algorithm or everyone has been waiting to book the new ship over Christmas. I could get just as good a deal on flights to OZ from Heathrow so the air miles HK flights would be wasted. On a serious note Seabourn need to be careful. If you charge a lot of money people arrive with extremely high expectations and they will leave angry and disappointed because Seabourn isn’t designet to function at that level. Im a huge fan of the product but it’s essential you feel like it was good value. I’d hate to see loads of poor reviews based on over expectant campers. Henry :)
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