DirtyDawg

Assuming Royal doesn't take up my feeding the Chair Hogs to the sharks idea ☹️, my next recommendation would be to go back to the good old days of locking the steerage passengers below deck. It wouldn't address the Chair Hog issue directly but there would be a lot more deck space and loungers for the 'upper classes'. 😊

Of course, since Mrs. Dawg and I only cruise balcony and above, my recommendation to Royal would be to include only insides and OV's in the new steerage class. 😉 

P.S. I still like my shark idea better but for some reason Royal seams has some kind of an issue feeding possible repeat customers to the sharks. 🤔

21 minutes ago, Ret MP said:

Probably.  Why?  Because they are all about me me me.  They can't deal with negativity about themselves.  LOL

Are you talking about Chair Hogs or my university students?🤔

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1 minute ago, Ret MP said:

I've got a second option.  Make the offenders put on shorts and go eat in the MDR on a formal night and put up with all the looks and ridicule remarks.  That'll teach 'em!

And we could bring in another type of shark to "eat them alive".

😱

21 minutes ago, Ret MP said:

That's good, as long as cooler heads prevail.  

Then you are probably not going to like the solution I proposed to Royal management recently. 

Instead of saving their towels and other belongings at the towel stand, Royal should pile all the stuff onto a raft towed well behind the ship. The hogs can swim out to retrieve their stuff. All the while their fellow passengers would be encouraged to chum the water to attract even worse creatures. 

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9 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

There are other posters here who I would avoid like the plague!☺️

I would avoid booking an excursion with some of the posters here on CC too.

But, or course, those posters would probably want to avoid me like the plague too. 😊

20 hours ago, jean87510 said:

I agree with everyone who stated if a ferry involved like Tulum.  I wouldn't in St. Thomas to St. John as it's fairly easy to DIY.

 

I hate ship excursions especially with snorkeling as they have too many people and too many rules.  I also hate the bathroom and gift shop stops.  We do have a ship excursion for Chichen Itza and also Belize upcoming which has to be ship.

We hate cruise ship excursions as well. We did Chichen Itza by plane. Great way to go. It included a private tour of the site and we were done by the time the haggard cruisers arrived in their crowded buses.   😁

13 minutes ago, cruiseboy89130 said:

There is no new policy just some misinformed waiters and a lot of rumors on CC!

Rumors ... here on CC?

We don't deal with rumors on CC.

We post just the way Joe Friday likes it. Just the Facts. 

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1 hour ago, winemama said:

Just came back from 2 cruises  One on NCL and the other on Princess.  We can all agree that there have been a lot of cutbacks, us seasoned cruisers have come to expect a certain level of service, but new cruises don't know what they are missing, and are happy with their drink packages, food choices, and lack of entertainment.

NCL service has been horrible, they are only doing cabins once a day, not happy, but can adjust.  What I did not like was the vacumes, linen cart, and trash bags out in the hallway 10 hours a day.  We were on a Caribbean cruise, and the pool deck had very little help, drink glasses and plates everywhere, the pool water was like artic water, no one could use the pool, and about 500 people complained asking to heat the water a bit fell on deaf ears. 

The real deal breaker is that they now shut the ice cream machines down at 9:30.  Come on!!!!!

Lets talk, am I wrong?

How does closing the ice cream machines down at 9:30pm indicate cruise lines trying to "phase out older cruisers"? Most of us old farts are in bed by 9:30pm! If anything, closing the ice cream machines down at 9:30pm indicates cruise lines trying to phase out younger cruisers. 😁

Now, if the cruise lines were closing the ice cream machines down at 9:30am, we might have a concern. 🙃

36 minutes ago, S.A.M.J.R. said:

IMO, taking action against the passenger is doing something FOR the magician.  If Royal DOESN'T take some kind of action against the pax, that shows they don't care for their employees (and yes, I consider an entertainer an employee). 

OK. you are free to think that. And I'm free to think the way I do. In the end, nobody cares what you or I think about this issue.  CC is just a way to waist time. 😊

3 hours ago, S.A.M.J.R. said:

Not the poster you quoted, but *I* would want the passenger confined to his cabin until put off in the next port at the bare minimum.  Suspending/banning him would be acceptable also.  

 

Do YOU think there should be no repercussions against the assailant? 

Of course not. I was responding to the poster who said their major concern was with Royal was doing for the magician. So I addressed that issue. Just because I didn't deal with the assailant doesn't mean "there should be no repercussions against the assailant".

If you really have to know, I'm no lawyer but it looked like assault and battery to me. Hopefully some jurisdiction will throw the book at him. I couldn't care less what Royal does/did to him. That's their business and since I don't own any Royal stock, it's not my business. But if I owned Royal, I'd want the Captain to pick a crew member who most resembled Dick Butkus and have him (or her) to tackle the jerk right off the stern of the ship. 💪🏈 😁

11 minutes ago, adolfo2 said:

3~4X the price for equivalent water in a Walmart, Target, COSTCO, etc.

So if Royal should link what they charge for water to Walmart's price should they also link their dress core and allow 'wife beater' t shirts in the MDR?

Carnival's price for water might be linked to Walmart's price but I thought Royal was a bit more upscale. 😁

On 3/24/2023 at 1:56 AM, SakeDad said:

I hope RCCL does the right thing and stands by this entertainer who was violently attacked during his show and so far nothing has been done. Check the link out for video and more info. https://www.queerty.com/watch-jealous-man-attacks-gay-magician-for-getting-too-close-to-his-female-partner-20230323

So what do you want Royal to do for the aggrieved magician? Get him his own Netflix special? 

This guy has probably had more publicity in the past few weeks then he ever had in his entire career. Maybe Royal should take 10% of his increased earnings he will generate because of this publicity. 😁

BTW I missed all the other threads about this so thanks for posting. I guess I avoid cruise ship magicians on land as well as at sea. 😉

8 hours ago, pcur said:

I am SOOOO not in favor of being "strong-armed" into tipping.  However, my philosophy (well broadcasted here on CC for 20+ years) has never changed.

 

Anyone who helps me with my (then) 50 lb suitcase actually IS earning their tip.  Multiple bags per person?  YES, I think a helpful hand deserves a tip.  Also, YES, BOTH the shuttle driver and the porter at the pier.

 

Silly me, but I actually appreciate them helping me with the awkward, heavy stuff.

 

Now, I travel with a 22" expandable and an under-the-seat roller.  I still tip them to help me with my bags.  Before I abandoned my 26", 50-lb, monster suitcase, I remember last year getting out of a shuttle with it, and telling the porter at the pier, "You're the best thing I've seen all day!!  THANK YOU!! Here's some money for you!"  He laughed and thanked me.

I'm against being "strong armed" into tipping or buying girl guide cookies. 😉

But if tipping University Profs ever becomes normalized, I might change my tune. 😁

Prof DirtyDawg wants a bigger retirement treasure chest.  

19 minutes ago, Itchy&Scratchy said:

but what if Toyota was all you could afford?

Then buy a Kia. Kia makes a nice model called a Carnival and with the money you save, buy a nice pair of head phones to block out all the kiddie noises.  😁

1 hour ago, basenji56 said:

But I get that it is very annoying to feel you have been run off because Royal won't kick off miscreants of any age.

 

I get that it can be annoying too but people have to realize Royal Corporate does not care one lick about us as people. We are $ signs to them, that is all. Only if enough us refuse to give Royal any more of our $ will will they ever deal affectively with the miscreants (much nicer word that I use for them). $$ is the only language Cruise lines understand. 

43 minutes ago, BecciBoo said:

True Dawg, but the point is, it's not the cruise line, it's the mentality and manners of people these days, that crosses all boundaries, any cruise line.  You can't escape it.

But you can reduce your exposure to the little monsters by changing cruise lines to one that has less of them. 

Hey, if I was the Almighty, I'd have the little **it disturbers and their parents walk the plank if they acted up on a Cruise. But fortunately for them (and the other 8 billion souls on this planet 😉) I'm not. 

I do like your branding iron idea too! 😁

35 minutes ago, BND said:

So, people are supposed to run away because people don't make their kids behave?  We've had no issues with cruises with well behaved kids (usually that's cruises with the number of kids the ship can actually handle in it's youth programs).  Why should anyone have to switch from a cruise line they have been sailing on for years? Personally, IMHO, the cruise line should limit the number of kids under 18 to what the programs can handle.  That makes the most sense for everyone.  And, who knows if this behavior continues, it may come to that.  I wonder how those parents feel who have been kicked off the ship (and probably banned) feel after the fact?  I know they most likely blame the cruise line which is 100% the problem.

When I moved from a Toyota to a Lexus it wasn't 'running away' It was Upgrading. 😁

You asked; "Why should anyone have to switch from a cruise line they have been sailing on for years?" When that cruise line no longer meets your needs/requirements, it's time to shove off and make a change. Of course, you can continue to spend your hard earned money with them and write lots of letters to management complaining about the situation, but why knock your head against a wall. Move on. Like fish, there are lots of and cruise lines in the sea! 🛳️

7 hours ago, ONECRUISER said:

Some places offer Senior Discounts young as 50, many more at 55. Turned 57 and I'm not shy or ever embarrassed to ask for anything that could save me $$$. Did get 2 Senior Discounts from 2 other Cruise Lines, but seem to do lot better scoring Military Discounts with Royal. Funny thing is get Carded lot of the time as workers guess I'm only in my early 40's. I can live with that!.. Was very Lucky with my Kids/Teens, never an issue on Cruises or outside the house even with me not looking over their Shoulder. Though we had some serious heated discussions this was always at Home. Can't Win them all

We never had an issue with our boys when they were little kids and teens on cruises because we NEVER took them! We waited until later to cruise with them when they were, at least, semi-formed human beings. 😉

They are all really nice and successful adults now but in their teens ... 😱. That being said, I would not change anything about those years. Not because those experiences helped make them who they are now. No, it's because Mrs. Dawg and I have some BIG Stories from that time to hang over them. 😊 

14 minutes ago, cannotfathom said:

Are seniors sailing free?  Wow I can't wait LOL

Not yet but I've pitched Royal on a new promotion. It's called BOGOFF.

Buy One, Get an Old Fa*t for Free 

😁

39 minutes ago, cannotfathom said:

I think though many families have youth of a variety of ages.  I agree with the poster for eliminating the kids sail free.  I pay...everyone should pay.

I used to think that way until I hit 60 and started getting all those 'Seniors' discounts.  If discounts are good for me, they must be good for the kiddies too! 😁

22 minutes ago, cannotfathom said:

Makes it difficult to book.  We try to book during the school year.  But it is no guarantee that the ship's kid population will be low.

Why not book on a cruise line that doesn't cater to kids? Celebrity and Holland America usually  have fewer kids than Royal. 

1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said:

I have never in 20 years plus tipped a porter, and I have never had a problem with my bags showing up at my room.

This guy went 40 years without tipping a porter. His bags always showed up! 😉

25 minutes ago, Charles4515 said:

Well almost. They are not Teamsters. The port workers are longshoreman. 

What's in a name; "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet". 😁

On 3/17/2023 at 9:47 PM, allyfree said:

Bollocks - it's greed and it's discrimination!

 

Yes, it's official name is Price Discrimination and it is done all around the world in many, many markets. Now that I'm over 60, I enjoy the benefits of Price Discrimination when I get those seniors' discounts. 😁

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7604 is peanuts. But if each of those 7604 folks ate 76 hotdogs at one sitting, now THAT would be a REAL Word's Record. 🌭

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