FIRELT5 Posted June 24, 2014 #1 Share Posted June 24, 2014 http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20140624/NEWS04/140629872 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeyer418 Posted June 25, 2014 #2 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The US lawyer should know his own law. http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/marijuana-law/is-marijuana-legal-in-florida.htm http://www.mpp.org/states/florida/ also under US law, a customs border search doesn't need probable cause either. This is well established US common law exception to the need for probable cause to do a search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception. Its also true that Bermuda like other flag of convenience country leaves it to other countries to try cases of alleged criminal conduct that occur on its ships especially when that cruise doesn't stop at Bermuda. I can image the howl if someone on cruise from Florida to the Bahamas was arrested in Florida extradicted to Bermuda to be tried for a crime that occurred in Bahamian territorial waters. Besides the fact that witnesses would be had to find, there is more than enough adequate places to try the miscreant. I would like to see the case where a person wasn't tried some where for such a crime- either where it occurred or in the US under US law...and not under the flagged countries courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Va. Plumber Posted June 25, 2014 #3 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) I always figure if you are going to play in someone's country you play by their rules. It is after all their bat and ball. First went to Bermuda in 1974. It was the most thorough customs search I have ever experienced. There are a lot of countries around the world where a $500.00 fine would be considered a lucky break. Edited June 25, 2014 by Va. Plumber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeyer418 Posted June 28, 2014 #4 Share Posted June 28, 2014 and if the lawyer wants to complain about something here is something closer to home... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/28/us/border-patrol-scrutiny-stirs-anger-in-arizona-town.html?hpw&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpHedThumbWell&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted June 28, 2014 #5 Share Posted June 28, 2014 The US lawyer should know his own law. http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/marijuana-law/is-marijuana-legal-in-florida.htm http://www.mpp.org/states/florida/ also under US law, a customs border search doesn't need probable cause either. This is well established US common law exception to the need for probable cause to do a search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception. Its also true that Bermuda like other flag of convenience country leaves it to other countries to try cases of alleged criminal conduct that occur on its ships especially when that cruise doesn't stop at Bermuda. I can image the howl if someone on cruise from Florida to the Bahamas was arrested in Florida extradicted to Bermuda to be tried for a crime that occurred in Bahamian territorial waters. Besides the fact that witnesses would be had to find, there is more than enough adequate places to try the miscreant. I would like to see the case where a person wasn't tried some where for such a crime- either where it occurred or in the US under US law...and not under the flagged countries courts. The lawyer in question has a vendetta against Bermuda and the Bahamas because they foriegn flag cruise ships for the cruise lines convenience. While he does have a piont about that he unfortunately has lost objectivity and his rants can be outlandish. He often posts utter nonesense about the Bahamas. As far as Bermuda this issue is most of what he can come up with. Bermuda is in the right legally but I do think they should contain their efforts onboard docked ships to more potent drugs than marijuana. Anyone who brings marijuana onboard a ship for casual use onboard is pretty stupid though....I can't feel real bad about them paying a fine for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted June 28, 2014 #6 Share Posted June 28, 2014 and if the lawyer wants to complain about something here is something closer to home...http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/28/us/border-patrol-scrutiny-stirs-anger-in-arizona-town.html?hpw&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpHedThumbWell&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well I read about that and I think that a temporary checkpoint that has been there for years and never goes away is outrageous. What I wonder though is why the New York Times does not mention that the border patrol sets up checkpoints like that in New York state near the Canadian border but not at the border. Perhaps the ones in New York state are truly temporary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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