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Yep that is the plan. Unfortunately, my choice in that situation is to still lose money or pay extra to sail in the best suite. Impossible to use my FCC on a single cruise and I'm NOT about to pay HAL another cent. This plan is flawed too though, in that the crew are infected with covid too. So no bars, no shows, no games. That sounds like a great $10,000 vacation! Our plan is to do all meals outside from the Lido. We will probably be in full hazmat gear too. I can't wait.

Thanks for reaching out again. I'm extending it right now by canceling cruises and booking new ones. One day I will run out of time. Plus there is a huge gap between canceling a cruise booked with FCC and actually having that FCC redeposited to your account. I just canceled my August cruise and it could be the end of September before I see my FCC. I have never heard of a single person on CC that has gotten their FCC extended past Dec. 2022. I really have my doubts that the guest relations people on the other end of the phone for HAL have that kind of power. I've written emails and I haven't even received a reply. Who do you suggest I contact? I will disagree with the mask wearing situation too, because when cases get high on the ships, the first thing they do is make people put on masks until their cases go down. I know and follow a lot of public health professionals. I believe their opinion above else.

I'm perfectly capable of following the health information as far as covid. None of that helps me get my money back or have a safe cruise.

I added statements to my response. Lots of people don't know they have anything wrong with them.

Just being over 65 is a risk factor, without any additional health issues. What is you had diabetes or a heart condition, but you don't even know that you have and haven't been diagnosed yet? Many, many people are in that situation.

The only way for that to work is to cancel everything I have now to give them time to re-deposit my FCC. Then, when it didn't work, kiss my money goodbye. Great choices.

I also could go on the latest possible cruise in a hazmat suit.

I've already done that. Are you saying that your FCC was extended to 2023? The person on the phone could not tell me when the FCC would expire and I'm still waiting to have it deposited into our accounts.

Unfortunately, there is no sympathy on CC.

I have yet to hear of that happening for anyone on these boards for 2 entire years. When I have the conversation, I will be sure to let them know I got the suggestion on CC.

Sure, I was but they were sailing with vaccinated guests, fewer passengers and masks required. I had faith that a cruise line would continue to mitigate covid until the pandemic was over. After all, they are still mitigating Noro and outbreaks on the ships are miniscule. But once you turned that down, you were stuck and then they started making it more difficult for people to cruise. I'm glad that it all worked out for you. But there are a lot of people in my position that aren't happy. Sorry, but I don't believe you are sorry for my loss at all. It doesn't affect you in the least.

Yet, you have no idea when that was put there. Was that put there on the day they shut down in Feb. 2020, when I generated FCC from canceled cruises? Nope.

I have been cruising for 40 years. I have never seen a statement that health protocols will be changing for the worse, even though the threat to your health is still there. I am doing the same, but one day the clock is going to run out. With the current trend to make the cruises more dangerous for all people, what is your suggestion? If you had in excess of $10,000 in FCC that expires in 2022, would you just let HAL have it? I'll be sure to let HAL know that I think they are wasting their time cleaning and serving passengers in the Lido just because someone will get Noro. If it's not important to do the things necessary for covid mitigation, why bother with Noro? It's less prevalent. You only have a miniscule chance of getting Noro on a cruise ship, yet they mitigate it.

So anyone over the age of 65, beware!

Someone post a pre-2020 Contract and I'll believe you.

Please, it's called public health. It's a global pandemic.

So, after they decided that they would eliminate covid protocols. The started dropping protections in late Feb, early March. Can you understand that people who booked a cruise with covid protocols and felt protected, then after final payment, HAL drops those protocols, that they now feel a little angry? What are people supposed to do that have FCC expiring in a few months? Go and possibly get infected or let HAL have their money? The right thing to do would have been kept all covid protocols until the end of 2022 when everyone's FCC expires.

When was your cruise? I have no qualms with a cruise change that is for the better. But to continuing to make people less safe on a cruise ship is ridiculous.

With all due respect, HAL sold cruises without telling people that we will continue to drop covid protection protocols in the midst of global pandemic. Now, if you're booking in the last 4 months, yes, but no one was told that in 2021 or early 2022. In fact, it should be a warning on every confirm they send out, but it's absent.

Surely, you have seen where the "rules" have changed after you've made your final payment? I have.

Your post is my position, exactly. We cruised in August and November of 2021 when they were requiring all of the public health mitigations. Now, those protections are getting fewer and fewer, even though Kazu in her posts and a lot of us know that covid isn't done with us. You couldn't tell that from the travel industry. Everyone that has FCC that is expiring at the end of this year has a choice. Either they donate their money to HAL or they use their FCC for the potential to be infected with covid.

No, she said they wore masks. HAL didn't require masks. Plus they are definitely not doing any social distancing.

Jim, I was also very apprehensive before I did my first one. I was prepared with several extras in case I made a mistake. After you get one under your belt, I think you would be more comfortable. The international travel does pose a few more problems, but then so does arranging testing in a foreign country. Thanks for your reply and enjoy your cruise. I hope you are able to stay healthy.

He's actually doing it the right way. He is trying not to spread covid to anyone. If he has asymptomatic covid, his testing will identify that and he will be then be able to go into isolation to prevent spreading covid to others.

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