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  1. I'm sure this is answered somewhere in the 53 pages of replies to this topic, but, I can't seem to find it without reading everything, apparently. I am thinking of booking the 8/17/2022 sailing out of Amsterdam. Is that the first public sailing for this ship? Would that be considered the inaugural and would we expect any fanfare? I was on the inaugural Bliss in Alaska, it was neat to see the fireboats and such at each port, we had Wyland on board, small stuff but something that made it a bit unique. That all being said, the September itineraries are a bit more interesting and less expensive so still trying to figure out which we want. Perhaps on a related note, I don't see anything for 8/25 through 9/3 - Do we know what's happening during that time frame?
  2. Requiring NCL excursions only could indeed be NCL self serving. I certainly wouldn't put it past them. But I think these ports all realize that the vaccination requirement is a joke. It is impossible to verify and likely never will be possible to verify. So, I think it's also very plausible that the ports could be placing these requirements on the cruise lines. I also suspect we might never know in some cases.
  3. I think it's hilarious to hear people say they get their news from foreign sources because the local MM has agendas they push so you can't trust them. Yeah, like the foreign MM doesn't? Ignorance is indeed bliss, I guess. c'est la vie.
  4. If I send anything to my representatives, it's going to be something very similar. Especially the "securely validated" part. My wife and I had previously thought a vax requirement would be part of us returning to cruising. But, over the past few weeks I've come to realize that it has to be validated and that likely isn't ever going to happen. I've been vaccinated and I have the card. But those cards are very easy to forge and I am pretty sure that the hospital that vaccinated me would never be able to validate exactly who it was they vaccinated (they have my name and affiliation only). I suspect there is no reliable way to validate who has been vaccinated. I guess it's going to be a much longer time than I thought before I cruise again.
  5. Based on our knowledge of the generally accepted science and recommendations today, mandatory vaccinations are one of the requirements for us to return to cruising. So, I am all for it.
  6. I absolutely think there is something wrong with it - I don't like it one bit. I don't even look at the NCL e-mail anymore because I know it's all BS.
  7. And one of those "things" very well could be NCL's decision to offer the 30% sale. But the bottom line is, the price for cruises now is at least 30% higher than before the sale and that's OK because as your said numerous things influence the price and prices fluctuate all the time.
  8. For years, "experts" were saying the world is flat. Do you still believe that to be true? SMH.
  9. Are you saying that the Chocolate Lava cake served on Carnival is GF?
  10. I wish NCL had Carnival's Chocolate Lava cake. (Yes, I know NCL has something similar, but it's no where near as good)
  11. I've seen no change in the volume of pharmaceutical ads since this pandemic started. The pharmaceutical ads are a reflection of our severely broken healthcare system that rewards revenues and not outcomes. Yes you are, that is exactly what you are doing with these words: People who understand the problem don't really care about positive test rates. With so many asymptomatic positives, who really cares about positive test results? If you think the current "spike in cases" isn't real, please speak with anyone at your local hospital and ask them what their census is today. Ask how many people are boarding in their EDs because they can't find a bed. If you are in a bigger city, ask them if they are setting up their field hospitals in the local convention center or arena again. If you are in a small city, ask them how many patients they've had to ship to a hospital many miles away and ask if they are having problems finding places to ship these patients to. Ask them if they are contemplating shutting down their ORs again and cancelling elective procedures, again. Ask them how their staff is doing and how successful they are in attracting travelling nurses to backfill their needs compared to when they had to bring in travelers last spring. I am so tired of hearing people talk about positive test rates and death rates. Neither by itself is a problem. It's sick people taking up beds in the hospital that is the problem and that is the ONLY reason we are trying to control the spread of this thing - so people aren't literally dying in the street because there is no resources available to help them. People keep comparing this to flu - well flu doesn't tie up an ICU bed for weeks on end before it finally kills you. It doesn't matter what the death rates are, it matters that with Covid you use up way more resources before it finally kills you. I suspect the opposite. Lack of vaccine requirement will keep more of the general population away from cruising and travel. Note that I said "general population" which is much different than the population of CC these days.
  12. I don't doubt you were told this. But if I were told this, I wouldn't believe it for a second. It doesn't make sense. So planners are thinking about "how do we get more people to eat in the MDR?" Here's an idea, we'll only offer the salmon in the MDR only. The fact that we'll save money when all those buffet people aren't grabbing it "just to try" or "because it's there" isn't important, we'll get more people into the MDR, that's the important thing. Yeah right. NCL doesn't make any change if it doesn't include cost cutting or revenue enhancement.
  13. What kfkolnel is referring to was not "in big, bold print ", at least not in the months leading up to the April cruises being cancelled. Cruising as an industry has been damaged. If they want to get people back, adding a year or two onto their CN certificates would be a good way to, at the very least, have people consider coming back on NCL. I've got some CNs that are probably going to expire before we would even consider a cruise again. Add a couple years onto the expiration and they might then be in the window where we are confident in cruising and we'd probably cruise NCL to use the CNs. If they are expired, NCL has lost their advantage getting me back.
  14. Yeah, just look at the posts in CC. I notice that two posts I made yesterday (about 24 hours ago) are still visible on the main/first NCL page as the last posts in those two threads. That's unheard of that in 24 hours only 13 threads recieved any updates. In the last 24 hours there has been about 100 posts/replies in the NCL forum. I don't know what that number would have been last year at this time, but I am sure it was significantly higher. Point is, draw all the conclusions you want from CC, the conclusion I draw is that hardly anyone is here and that reflects society in general's lack of interest in cruising any time soon.
  15. I would argue that the CC demographic hardly represents the general cruising population.
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