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  1. Thanks Julig. Yep, it came up as travel agent, hence I am guessing that they will get it alright. Hope they are still ok haha.
  2. Are any travel agents getting the refunds and then having to refund customers, or is NCL sending refunds direct? (But they would not know the payment details, if TA's were paid?)
  3. There's been quite a few reports of this, got them myself for a cancelled cruise. No-one knows if they will disappear as quickly as they appeared!
  4. The article also states that there is "growing evidence", it also states "the British Medical Journal ‘Gut’ has published evidence from China revealing that if a patient has gastrointestinal issues, like diarrhoea, nausea and vomiting, over a quarter may not have the respiratory symptoms associated with the disease. Researchers also believe those who have gastrointestinal symptoms could have a more severe form of the disease". So it sounds more likely than less likely so I would not state that it has "never been a symptom". The WHO also states it as a known symptom. https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses#:~:text=symptoms The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, dry cough, and tiredness. Other symptoms that are less common and may affect some patients include aches and pains, nasal congestion, headache, conjunctivitis, sore throat, diarrhea, loss of taste or smell or a rash on skin or discoloration of fingers or toes. These symptoms are usually mild and begin gradually. Some people become infected but only have very mild symptoms.
  5. Why though? Aren't most of the cruiselines broadly in the same boat (highly original PUN 1) ? They need to manage cashflow or they are gone. Have complete sympathy for people that need the money quicker (though many would have spent it by now on their cruise), but at least the cruise lines will hopefully stay afloat (highly original PUN 2)
  6. I'm not really getting this point to be honest. I didn't think s/he was saying that it's their own fault. Assuming nobody is doing something on purpose, It's nobody's fault really - anyone that goes onboard knows there is a potential for catching the virus. Same as they always knew there was a potential for norovirus at any time. So they were saying that if you catch it, you can't blame other people, as you made an informed decision to go on?
  7. Yep, just a liability waiver. I was only advocating it in terms of what the cruise lines should do to mitigate being sued, as long as the pandemic exists without a vaccine or treatment, if they get going, they will have to protect themselves from the potential of unlimited liability to passengers who choose to get on.
  8. I think the cruiselines should. It's impossible for them to eradicate risks, yet people will be happy to sue them if they catch the virus. You'd sign a disclaimer for a dangerous sport, so it makes a bit of sense. (Not saying cruising has yet become a dangerous sport!).
  9. I guess there are two sides to this - people who will go if possible and take the 'risk' (whatever that turns out to be), and others like you point out who will not take that 'risk'. Different people have different risk tolerances. Given the ships won't be able to sail full if they get going, (because of social distancing etc.), it's probably best that not everyone wants to get on!
  10. I didn't say anything was better than Phase 1. Or worse than Phase 1. Just that I don't think there could or will be a return to Phase 1.
  11. I don't think there will be a Phase 1 return regardless of figures. Most countries will probably figure that we have to live with it to a degree. Populations won't suffer the restrictions all over again regardless of the virtues of it. Once yes, but after that it's a case of people making their own life choices. Just my view. Economies simply can't take another shut down.
  12. for me anyway, having checked, it went to my travel agent, so looks like they will get the refund and pass onto me. Hopefully 🙂
  13. do people know if you paid a travel agent, whether refund goes to them and they pay you? or does NCL get your payment details from them and refund you directly?
  14. Probably comes down to personal circumstances. I went for the refund, but mainly because my wife didn't want to take the risk of NCL getting out of this alive (ironically her view could ultimately lead to that!). If you plan on cruising again and expect NCL to get through this (and they seem to have secured sufficient funding to do so), then the FCC is probably fair. While I understand the "it's my money, they shouldn't hold onto it", I suppose there is a bit of "if I let them hold onto it, at least they will be around for future cruises!". I did hear reasons like "$x is too much money for us not to get refunded, we have bills to pay etc" which made me wonder how these funds were needed - if they had gone on the original cruise those monies would be gone (and more including spending).
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