faeriechick Posted June 6, 2008 #1 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hot off the presses. All Freedom Europe 2009 sailings have been cancelled, and the Freedom will now be sailing out of Ft. Lauderdale doing 6 and 8 day Carribean cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted June 6, 2008 #2 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hot off the presses. All Freedom Europe 2009 sailings have been cancelled, and the Freedom will now be sailing out of Ft. Lauderdale doing 6 and 8 day Carribean cruises. Got linkage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjunea Posted June 6, 2008 #3 Share Posted June 6, 2008 ooooh, that sounds like something I need to look into! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faeriechick Posted June 6, 2008 Author #4 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Got linkage? Unfortunately I just got confirmation of it, so I don't believe that the information is on the website yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCaribbean Posted June 6, 2008 #5 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Well, I guess all the people that thought Europe was the goldmine for Carnival were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. cruiser Posted June 6, 2008 #6 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Did they say why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted June 6, 2008 #7 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Well, I guess all the people that thought Europe was the goldmine for Carnival were wrong. Did they say why? I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get. Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faeriechick Posted June 6, 2008 Author #8 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Did they say why? Looking at the letter that's going to be sent out, it does not give a reason. But I'm with the other poster. I think it may be a fuel/air cost issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegs222 Posted June 6, 2008 #9 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get. Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy. I am just happy that our cruise to Europe is still a go. I can't even imagine how the pax think of their cruise being canceled. I just booked all of our excursions this morning and since April, most of them have gone up at least $10.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCaribbean Posted June 6, 2008 #10 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get. Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy. Yes, but Im talking about several posters in the last couple of weeks that said carnival would either park ships :confused: or send them over to Europe because of fuel costs. Im betting Uncle Bob is glad he got out when he did. Uncle Gerry is going to have to make some tough choices in the coming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothomeonacruise Posted June 6, 2008 #11 Share Posted June 6, 2008 The expense of moving a ship the size of the Freedom across the Atlantic might be a factor. Plus, they have to be able to produce a good product at a reasonable cost to the passenger. (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCaribbean Posted June 6, 2008 #12 Share Posted June 6, 2008 This will also cause the 2009 Euro Liberty Cruises to rise. I bet Carnivals ability to secure cruise air also factored into the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp traveler Posted June 6, 2008 #13 Share Posted June 6, 2008 This really bums me out!! We were set for next June!! Now what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrp96 Posted June 6, 2008 #14 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Wasn't Freedom doing the Med cruises? So they aren't going to have a ship in the Med just Liberty doing the Baltic itineraries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCaribbean Posted June 6, 2008 #15 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Wasn't Freedom doing the Med cruises? So they aren't going to have a ship in the Med just Liberty doing the Baltic itineraries? Yes, so no Rome departures..Just Liberty from Dover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandom Posted June 6, 2008 #16 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Makes me wonder if Carnival is going to have the Dream released sooner than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faeriechick Posted June 6, 2008 Author #17 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Wasn't Freedom doing the Med cruises? So they aren't going to have a ship in the Med just Liberty doing the Baltic itineraries? Liberty will be doing Med in Sept and Oct 09, but that is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisLover Posted June 6, 2008 #18 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get. Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy. I wish all the news of the day was presented this clearly! They should just say what they mean, like big_duck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. cruiser Posted June 6, 2008 #19 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I'm guessing that when Carnival came up with the Europe strategy that had no idea how myopic, stupid and expensive the airlines would get. Not to mention the whole US Dollar thingy. Looking at the letter that's going to be sent out, it does not give a reason. But I'm with the other poster. I think it may be a fuel/air cost issue. That makes sense. I know for my Panama cruise I had to take cruise air as I couldn't find anything close to that price. Just have to keep looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted June 6, 2008 #20 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Makes me wonder if Carnival is going to have the Dream released sooner than expected. Hmmm, that could indeed be the other shoe. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pungo3 Posted June 6, 2008 #21 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Makes me wonder if Carnival is going to have the Dream released sooner than expected. Good point. That would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Au48 Posted June 6, 2008 #22 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Good point. That would make sense. I agree. The shipyards have been finishing ships earlier and earlier. Would make sense to keep the Dream in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCaribbean Posted June 6, 2008 #23 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I agree. The shipyards have been finishing ships earlier and earlier. Would make sense to keep the Dream in Europe. I just dont see how they can get a ship scheduled to be completed in Oct of 09 ready for May of 09. Maybe she will be done by late August, but that still seem a bit to early for a new ship design, that could have a few bugs to work out. Guess we will have to stay tuned :) In the past they have gotten the ships done about a week or two earlier than planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Au48 Posted June 6, 2008 #24 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I just dont see how they can get a ship scheduled to be completed in Oct of 09 ready for May of 09. Maybe she will be done by late August, but that still seem a bit to early for a new ship design, that could have a few bugs to work out. Guess we will have to stay tuned :) Maybe not May, but I could see it being ready in late July or August. CCL may rather forfeit 2 months of Europe cruises on the Freedom (about 6-7 cruises) instead of having 3 ships over there for a good chunk of the season. Instead, they could get 8-10 weeks of 7-night Caribbean cruises (on their newest ship in the Caribbean) and just wait until the Dream innaugurates. Ohh, the speculation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPete Posted June 6, 2008 #25 Share Posted June 6, 2008 And I was just reading this morning that Europe was the area that was the hot spot for bargains, as it just wasn't selling anymore. They were offering free airfare and rock bottom prices. So much for that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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