smokeybandit

I've brought a 5-port USB charger on every cruise the last 8 years or so. No issues.

3 minutes ago, Billy Baltic said:

I fear spending several thousand Euros to spend my well earned vacation with social distancing, wearing masks, cruise line only excursions, limited facilities, etc. And that’s if no one tests positive onboard. If they do then it’s a vacation of quarantining in your cabin. 

Cruises won't be shut down due to one single test. Or 10. And the odds of it ever getting to the point they'd have to shut it all down is extremely low. Yet that will be the fear of many people (and not necessarily their fault due to the media coverage covid gets)

4 minutes ago, SNJCruisers said:

Don't you realize that all of these parents wanting to cruise in the short term with their precious little darlings are card carrying members of the "me society"? 

Or maybe they just understand the science of the whole thing.  And the bean counters will rely on science, too, not paranoia that people have thinking they'll catch and die of covid if they happen to merely see an unvaccinated kid.

My son's school district has been open full time since August. Kids 10 and under don't wear masks. They don't stay 6 feet apart because that's impossible.

Guess how many in-school covid transmissions there have been: ZERO

The rule should simply be if you're over 70 or have high risk medical conditions, you need a doctor's approval to sail (much like will be the case for the test cruise).

3 hours ago, Biker19 said:

There are both, you can get a one day 24 hrs package and a package for the whole sailing which is priced per day.

Isn't a one-day package technically priced per day?😀

It all goes back to people thinking every cruise in 2021 or beyond will worse than Diamond Princess in early 2020.  Yet, even Diamond Princess only had a couple hundred positive tests (with rudimentary testing) with absolutely zero covid interventions or treatments, none the less vaccines. Many with close contacts with those that tested positive never themselves tested positive.  Despite an average passenger age of 69, there were only 14 deaths, nearly all of which were 70+.

Now we're going to start cruising with extra cleaning, extra ventilation, pre-emptive testing, distancing, masks and vaccines and probably less people for the near future.

Yet people fear a return to cruising.

23 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

While it is extremely rare for kids to get a serious case of Covid that requires hospitalization it has happened and can happen.  Can you imagine the consequences if that happened on a ship.  cruise lines will be overly cautious IMO

The odds of a kid testing negative pre-cruise, then needing hospitalization for covid during the cruise are probably lower than a kid falling overboard.

The odds of ANYONE testing negative pre-cruise, then needing hospitalization for covid during the cruise are very, very low. Probably the same odds of someone needing hospitalization for any reason.

The cost you see advertised is per day.

We're 2 months away from May any the lines have no idea what the CDC wants them to do for test cruises.

Not a chance May happens. 

If the test cruises can't start in the next couple weeks, June is probably out the window, too.

Canada has strict covid re-entry rules. I wouldn't think many Canadians would want to cruise until that rule is rescinded.

1 hour ago, boscobeans said:

 

As I understand it, with an effective vaccine your body fights off and destroys the initial small amount of viral agent that you may come in contact with before it multiplies and becomes a problem.

 

That is why a vaccine is of no real use once someone is infected....  

If you're already infected, you'll develop the antibodies needed, so yes, no need for the vaccine

13 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

Let's see.  How does a cruise line earn revenue?  On ships, or am I wrong?  Is there another revenue stream?  Don't think so.  So, what does Section 883 of the IRS code say?  Revenue earned in the US by a foreign flag vessel operator is exempt from income tax.  So, if the one and only source of revenue that a cruise line generates is tax exempt, do you really think they pay much tax?

 

CLIA has even stated in their economic impact reports that the vast majority of taxes paid to federal, state, and local jurisdictions are:  property tax on the corporate headquarters building, and the social security withholding of US employees.

Also billions in docking fees/taxes in America. 

I would think Orlando/Miami ships with CocoCay itineraries would be the first to sail.

1 hour ago, Vera/Lee said:

Is Fauci really saying now that vaccinated people shouldn't dine indoors or go to the theater yet? I wonder if they will ever let businesses open up to support their families. 

Yes, said it yesterday

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/02/22/press-briefing-by-white-house-covid-19-response-team-and-public-health-officials-6/

How many of these crewmembers have been gainfully employed since cruising shut down?

I would think many would do anything to get that cash flow back to their families, so they'll do whatever is asked of them.

The cruise industry we know and love wouldn't be what it is today if all ships were registered in America.

Anthony Fauci said yesterday that indoor events with crowds (to include theaters and restaurants) should still be banned even if you have the vaccine.

It's going to be a long, long time before cruising starts up as long as that kind of input is followed.

15 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

That must be why the whole industry is shut down.

There's only one reason the whole industry is shut down and it has nothing to do with covid

2 hours ago, Ocean Boy said:

Port Everglades ties up 11-12 ships on a weekend in high season. That is easily 50,000+ passengers. Big difference compared to one Diamond Princess.

That doesn't change the fact that an outbreak on a cruise ship is extremely unlikely.

2 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

And a vaccine mandate would make it even less likely.

Statistically insignificantly less likely

16 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

It would seem that universal vaccination aboard the ships would go a long way to prevent a ship from overrunning the medical capabilities of a community.

That's extremely unlikely to happen.  It didn't even happen on Diamond Princess back when no one knew anything about covid.

3 hours ago, notmyrealnameoremail said:

Yeah maybe, but there is no evidence that Royal or any of the other big cruise line had come up with the required agreements to get people off of the ships and take care of them if there was an outbreak. 

 

Have you heard of any city in the US that said they would allow that?

 

I'm convinced that has been the biggest roadblock.  But that 's only my opinion and you know what they say  about opinions.

I would guess specifics on the on shore facility requirement would be one of the big things the cruise lines had specific technical questions about that the CDC didn't clarify.

23 minutes ago, paulh84 said:

Crew? Who is working these ships? They are going to lag behind with vaccinates long after the US sees mass distribution. 

6% of the crew, most of which wouldn't yet be eligible in the USA to get the vaccine, has already gotten it.

Sure that's a long way to go, but they are getting vaccinated faster in their home countries than they would be in the USA.

He's a CEO of a large company in financial disarray. He has to be a politician.