smokeybandit

A lot of the big resorts in Mexico are preparing to do the testing for their guests.

4 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Just the fact that cruising resumes says nothing about the vaccines. It is only when other restrictions can, and are, removed will it demonstrate that the vaccines are providing the desired affect.

 

I do however feel this demonstrates the benefit of 100% vaccination requirement. If there are exceptions and an outbreak occurs on a ship, the first thing the skeptics will point to is vaccine failure.

 

 

And there will be positives on board, even with 100% vaccinations since the vaccine won't be 100% effective (especially in older people) and there will be false positives.

Just now, Ourusualbeach said:

Other things that people get vaccinated for aren't a global health issue.  If it bothers you then wait several years until the vaccine is no longer a requirement

I have no issue with the vaccine itself. I just have an issue with the utter hypocrisy surrounding the vaccine and covid in general.

1 minute ago, Ourusualbeach said:

She never stopped sailing.

It was a joke. The Love Boat was a different Pacific Princess that was scrapped a few ago

But both are still beyond what the manufacturers ever tested again.

OK, "disaster" might be hyperbole. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/vaccine-delay-uk-should-cut-its-12-week-gap-between-doses-doctors-group-says/ar-BB1d1EjB

3 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Then I guess there are a multitude of legit reasons to deny boarding.

Until they get hit with a class action ADA lawsuit

Apparently I get the AWE network, despite the fact I've never heard of it until now

Its very likely that even when cruising starts up, it'll be a gradual restart.  Not all RC ships and ports will start up from day 1. That's been hinted at in many different ways. That seems to be what Carnival is announcing.

Pacific Princess? Are they bringing back the Love Boat?

I'm fine with a covid vaccine mandate just as long as they make all other modern vaccines mandatory, too.

From looking at the movie rating scale in the UK, the adult content on a cruise ship would be 12A/15 in the UK.  

There will be lawyers lining up to defend people who don't want to or can't get the vaccine should RC go that route.

How are the docking contracts written? Do they have to use the dock every so often to satisfy terms of the contract?

1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said:

I think the best way to get back to a normal cruise experience is to require 100% vaccination rate on the ship. Once you start making exceptions then other precautions will also have to be used like masking and distancing. Unfortunately, those who can't, or won't, be vacinated would just have to wait to go on a cruise.

You'll never get 100% vaccination rate for  multitude of legit reasons.

4 minutes ago, ace2542 said:

That is not what we have been told here in UK. To my knowledge we have been told you have antibodies after infection and we have cut quarantine periods from 14 days to 10 days. And after 14 days you show a negative test and are free to go. This place is the only place I have heard of this 3-5 month business. It has never been mentioned in any UK coronavirus briefing by Johnson or Hancock or Van Tam or in UK Media to my knowledge. Nor do I recall hearing it with Trump on CNN when he got sick. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what has been said. But it sounds to me like  it has been said you are positive for 3-5 MONTHS after diagnosis and recovery.

The US CDC says with the PCR tests you can test positive 12 weeks after exposure.  The PCR test doesn't test for live virus, but just the existence of the virus fragments.  If the PCR test searched for animals on the side of the highway, it would pick up live animals as well as roadkill that's been dead for weeks.

1 minute ago, Ourusualbeach said:

Never.  It won’t happen.  People would just book cruises knowing they would be cancelled just to book points. 

It'd be simple. Points only go to those people who elect FCC and those retroactive points are credited when the FCC cruise sails.

At what point do they consider giving points for the canceled cruises?

3 minutes ago, Ashland said:

And what about before getting onboard when staying pre-cruise days?

And before disembarking will I have those results to take with me to the airport?

CDC has no authority in a foreign port.

Ports of call will have their own rules. But upon disembarkation at the home port, those are the rules. As of now there's no rule that says you have to provide your negative test result to the airline after a cruise. Just to get off the ship. But  I would imagine RC would have to provide copies of the results to passengers.

3 minutes ago, Ashland said:

I'm also fine with the precautions...however I have questions about the Covid testing if spending pre-cruise days before boarding and tests after cruise ... who will provide these and where especially in a foreign country?

The CDC mandates that the cruise line will test everyone before disembarking

It's entirely too strict. But that's what it'll take to get cruising again, especially with the CDC running the show.

17 minutes ago, travelhound said:

Did you still have to pay upfront for taxes and port? I tried to book online with FCC that came from and previous deposit. It input all three of our credits but said we owed $117 each for tax and fees. I know you can't use FCC for those charges but I didn't really want to give RC any more money right now.

Taxes and fees would only be due by final payment. 

Most IT problems are due to non-IT people making a mistake.

8 minutes ago, ThirstyCruiser said:

Highly unlikely they would go back pre mid-January to lower the numbers.

Definitely not. I'm just saying that if that was the criteria from the start, then we are all cruising right now.

Yep, my son and I are typically 97.5