In these tricky times of flying...

[jonthomas]

 flying from Toronto to Barcelona,  nothing direct, where would you chose to have a stop over? and of course at least 3 hours....

 

Newark, Frankfurt, Heathrow, Lisbon

 

the first two were voted as the worst for delays and cancellations....

 

would you fly Air Lingus and have a stop over in Dublin?

 

would you fly TAP airlines?

 

we have usually done Air Canada but it and our airport have become the worst in the world....

 

all opinions welcome....

[Robjame]

Air Transat direct from Montreal - take VIA rail from TO to Montreal - business class on Air Transat (which is really premium economy on Air Transat) we have done this and worked out fine

 

or 

 

 If you insist on TO -  Air France to Paris - Paris to Barcelona

Edited September 9, 2022 by Robjame

[jonthomas]

will look into Air Transat...

 

it isnt flying from TO in November....dont know why..it stops in Oct 29....

 

thank you for your suggestion....

[jonthomas]

nope...nothing to barcelona in November....dont know why...maybe going out of business....

[jonthomas]

and stopping in Paris, seems like then you are flying backwards to Barcelona....

[Robjame]

It is seasonal - I wasn’t aware of dates

 

If you have the time I would want to be in Europe and then I could easily drive, train, or fly depending on availability - make a bit of a holiday

 

Fly into Toulouse France or Bordeaux with Air Transat or even Germany with Lufthansa tho it is an air Canada codeshare  

 

less problems out of Montreal

Edited September 9, 2022 by Robjame

[LHT28]

what about  AC via ZRH

Delta  via AMS

 

 

What dates are you flying?

That can affect what flights are available

 

 

[jonthomas]

flying out on nov 16....going home from mia....

 

we are on the Nov 19 TA on O.....

 

yes seasonal...so air transat not available ...

 

Rob, we are not as adventurous as you....if travelling with friends we would go out of our comfort zone...but as it is we want as uncomplicated as possible...

 

originally we had a flight with O....but with what is going on with flights we quickly realized we needed to go in a couple of days earlier...been to BAR many times...really not interested in having extra days there...two days is enough for us...

 

There is an Air transat flight from TO to Gatwick...then some air line called Vuelling to BAR....really not sure I want to be flying with all kinds of unknown airlines....I am flight phobic as it is...

 

[Robjame]

Air Transat Montreal to Paris ( I think you can choose Orly rather than CDG)  - 

 

lots of options from there to Barcelona 

[jonthomas]

way too expensive to go by via rail to Montreal, then Air transat to Paris, then some other airline to Bar...and way too complicated for us....

[LHT28]

 I would  go AC   from YYZ

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/app.html#/faredriven

 

I would not want to have an adventure   just getting to the flight    plus the added costs of  VIA  etc

 I avoid  Air Transat & Westjet  at all costs  😉

 

try  ITA  for options

https://matrix.itasoftware.com/search

[Robjame]

If you want to avoid yyz you really need to choose an alternative like Montreal

Ottawa is no better than Toronto

 

if it is to avoid Air Canada choose Lufthansa, Swiss, KLM

 

[jonthomas]

yes, thank you ....

 

and certainly a thank you for any opinions...all are valued...

 

grateful to have some of you to navigate this with...

[jonthomas]

hoping that by Nov we could leave from our Airport in To without the chaos that  many experienced this summer.....

[LHT28]

4 minutes ago, jonthomas said:

hoping that by Nov we could leave from our Airport in To without the chaos that  many experienced this summer.....

is it still chaos there?

 

Fly from YTZ to YUL     but I wonder if  YUL is  any less chaotic  🤔

 

[jonthomas]

nothing is less chaotic in Canada....but hopefully will be less so by November.

 

I still think it would have cost us more to keep the air with O....it was 700US, plus 175 for deviation, plus extra charge for any flight that may have been more expensive than than the one O planned for originally...and then the  exchange of CAD dollar....

 

as it is , cost with AC is 780 CAD pp and then from MIA 460CAD pp....slightly cheaper from FLL...but then the hastle to take train from MIA airport to FLL airport...

 

not worth it..want this to be as simple as possible....

[Robjame]

6 minutes ago, LHT28 said:

if  YUL is  any less chaotic

YUL 3rd  best airport in Canada after Halifax and vancouver

Edited September 9, 2022 by Robjame

[Robjame]

7 minutes ago, jonthomas said:

as it is , cost with AC is 780 CAD pp and then from MIA 460CAD pp....slightly cheaper from FLL...but then the hastle to take train from MIA airport to FLL airport...

Presuming you are flying back directly from the cruise to Canada - we are flying out of FLL - YYZ - - - Uber from cruise port to FLL about $80 ………. Cruise port to MIA about $30 ( I think)  That is per car not per person

 

Edited September 9, 2022 by Robjame

[jonthomas]

yeah...anything is better than TO....unbelievable how pearson voted worst in the WORLD.....

[sunlover12]

I would choose to go through Frankfurt. It's big but it's efficient. We've flown through there a number of times, the most recent was May of this year,  and have not had any problems or delays.  I would avoid Heathrow at all costs.  If by chance your flight into Frankfurt is delayed, there will be many options to get to Barcelona from there. 

[jonthomas]

from Fll we would have to have a later flight...the afternoon flights from FLL are about the same as flying out of  Miami....

[LHT28]

6 minutes ago, jonthomas said:

not worth it..want this to be as simple as possible....

Yes I prefer the KISS method  LOL

 I dislike airports  but  a necessary evil  if you want to go to Europe  😜

 

[jonthomas]

1 minute ago, sunlover12 said:

I would choose to go through Frankfurt. It's big but it's efficient. We've flown through there a number of times, the most recent was May of this year,  and have not had any problems or delays.  I would avoid Heathrow at all costs.  If by chance your flight into Frankfurt is delayed, there will be many options to get to Barcelona from there. 

 

thank  you for this info...

 

its just longer from FRA...since we are flying backwards...but I hear you about Heathrow...

 

really considering Zurich....

[LHT28]

try not to overthink it

You just make yourself nuts

The longer  you wait  the less seats will be available 😉

 

[jonthomas]

yes have to do it in the next couple of days....have delayed this enough, thinking prices will go down...yeah right....