Smoking

[crt37]

Hubby is a smoker, I'm not,

 

Oh dear me. I feel your pain on that one. If I were ever faced with the chore of kissing a smoker I think I'd quite croak. I often recommend the following (hopefully) helpful advice to those caught in such a pickle. If you feel you absolutely must kiss a smoker then I suggest you first perform the Smoker Scrub Down (SSD, for short). First thing is you put on your elbow length rubber gloves. Then for your facial area, you should prepare like a dental hygienist would. Wear goggles and the little breathing mask. OK, now you're ready to tackle the nasty task. Fetch the toilet brush and a full can of Comet, Bon Ami, or similar abrasive cleaner. Have the smoker open wide and liberally apply the Comet or Bon Ami and then use some elbow grease to begin scrubbing. Just as with the toilet, you need to be sure and scrub well under both the upper and lower rims. The tongue is usually particularly troublesome. Perhaps a charcoal grill scraper or extra coarse brillo pad could be used to scour and scrub the tongue. Now have the smoker gargle deeply with Pine-Sol. Once this process is complete, use a garden hose and rinse everything out thoroughly. Then, as a last step, tie one of those air fresheners like people put on their rear view mirror to one of her upper front teeth and let it dangle freely in her mouth. I suggest pine forest scent but any other scent will do. This should help deodorize the oral cavity. Now you are ready for the dirty deed. Swoop in quickly and give the smoker a quick peck on the cheek then back away quickly. Voila! Mission accomplished!

 

Now I know already what some of you are saying. Oh yeah. My ears are burning. I can hear it now. Some of you are saying "OK, Mr. smart alek know it all. You think you are so smart, what about this. Let's say I perform the Smoker Scrub Down and get to the last step and find that, like many smokers, this smoker is missing both upper front teeth. So now I have no place to attach the air freshener. Then what do I do Mr. smarty pants? See, you're not so smart after all. :p "

 

Well, I already have an answer for that too. Look, if you get yourself into a situation where you get hooked up with some smoker that is both a smoker AND is missing both upper front teeth, then you have got real problems. At that point, getting the Smoker Scrub Down process to work properly should be the least of your worries. Your real problem is you need to exercise better judgment in selecting dates. So don't come whining to me that SSD does not work properly if you get yourself into that situation.

Cheers.

 

 

[davecttr]

So if just one bar was smoking there wouldnt be a problem would there.You cant argue that one.:mad:

Which bar would you choose!. Using Celebration as an example you have 5 bars:-

 

Horizons - no as it is popular

Mezzazine bar in showlounge - no because of showlounge

Liberties - maybe but what about the activities there

Lido bar - no because of the food

Hemingways - no because it is large and the casino is adjacent

 

So there you have the problem, all bars are venues for other activities in which non-smoking passengers might object to the smoke. Ideally you need a bar which is dedicated to smoking with the appropriate air conditioning to keep the smoke away from the rest of the ship, and no other activities scheduled there.

[sobral]

Which is what they do on other cruise lines - they have a smoking bar-and it seems to work well- so if Thomson ships have several bars, they could allocate one bar as a smoking bar and then all would be pacified but non smokers would have to accept not to frequent those bars- as I have witnessed on other ships, non smokers frequent smoking areas, and bars- strange

[eaststandbaggie]

Hi crt37,

Just one word,

BRILLIANT

[Rambler12]

In principle I have no objection to one bar designated to smokers provided the airconditioning was powerful enough to prevent the smoke from escaping into the rest of the ship. Of course, non-smoking spouses, children and friends would have to decide if they joined the smoker or not. Best, I think, to keep children out of the smoking bar.

 

My only real worry which no one else has mentioned is the bar staff. They would have to suffer passive smoking for the whole of their shift, presumably, the level of smoke would be very high with only one bar for smokers.

 

I cannot think of a way to protect the bar staff. Therefore, Thomson may be one of the first cruise lines with this policy but from a health and safety point of view they are no doubt thinking of the passengers and employees. What they are doing is bringing their ships in line with English law as the cruises are aimed at the British market even if the law does not apply to their ships. They may lose a few customers who are smokers but I bet their ships will be more than 90% full.

[Swerve]

So if just one bar was smoking there wouldnt be a problem would there.You cant argue that one.:mad:

 

Of course you can, there is absolutley no need to smoke indoors in public areas !

 

You want to smoke indoors, stay at home, simple as that !

 

The stench of cigarette, cigar and pipe smoke sticks and lingers. I'm a pipe smoker and casual cigar and I would never ever even think about smoking in someone else's living space let alone mine :rolleyes:

[banjoman 1]

Initially I thought this was light hearted humour ( crt37 ) until I read other comments from the same person.It would be beneficial to all if you made an apology to all.

[banjoman 1]

The lido bar would probably be the most suited and any food service moved to another location.

[banjoman 1]

Of course you can, there is absolutley no need to smoke indoors in public areas !

 

You want to smoke indoors, stay at home, simple as that !

 

The stench of cigarette, cigar and pipe smoke sticks and lingers. I'm a pipe smoker and casual cigar and I would never ever even think about smoking in someone else's living space let alone mine :rolleyes:

No, we will not be staying at home.We will simply take our business elsewhere where they do not have or ever likely to have such restrictions.

[crt37]

Initially I thought this was light hearted humour ( crt37 ) until I read other comments from the same person.It would be beneficial to all if you made an apology to all.

 

You are quite right. I stand correctly admonished and do endevour to apologize to most...but I dare say, not all. Sorry indeed.

[taylaboo]

We have just returned from a cruise on the Emerald. You can smoke on the pool deck and at the back of the ship but nowhere to smoke inside! Hope this helps

Tatlaboo

[davecttr]

The lido bar would probably be the most suited and any food service moved to another location.

The lido bar is attached to the buffet restaurant so no go on that one. You could possibly convert the kids zone!!!, or part of that vast acreage of fitness centre.

[crt37]

The lido bar would probably be the most suited and any food service moved to another location.

 

Perhaps they could just install one of those one person portable toilets near the back of the ship and smokers could queue up and go in there for a smoke and a drink.

[banjoman 1]

Perhaps they could just install one of those one person portable toilets near the back of the ship and smokers could queue up and go in there for a smoke and a drink.

There are probably 3 types of non smoker.Type A (66&) These people are very friendly people and do not consider it as an important issue. Type B (20%) These people are also very friendly and think that it is an issue and by compromise and understanding an amicable solution can be found. Type C (13%) These people are the very proactive non-smoking UK lobby. They are good at contacting forums, have the loudest mouths and are responsible for the debacle in the UK. The final 1% includes the likes of crt37.

They are probably unemployed divorced, obese (or whatever) specimens,who have a chip on their shoulder.THeir mouth is full of vermin and their comments are rabid.

I am really surprised that this forum has allowed the comments made by crt37.

[sobral]

Perhaps they could just install one of those one person portable toilets near the back of the ship and smokers could queue up and go in there for a smoke and a drink.

You are so rude! You are giving the non smokers a bad name!

[Nephthys]

Well, I'm not offended crt37 & am sure hubby wouldn't be either; I actually thought the instructions were very helpful :D Maybe I have a warped sense of fun, like you?

Smoking is undoubtedly an emotive subject, as shown by this forum! :eek:

Hubby & I have managed to survive 28 yrs of being together, despite his ciggies; :p that's not to say I approve of his smoking, I'd like him to give up for the sake of his own health, but it's his choice / responsibility. He has never smoked in the house or around our 2 sons.

Thomson have taken their decision in accordance with customer feedback, as per one of my quotes from their Cuise News thingies. My opinion is that people can smoke if they choose to, there is no excuse for not knowing the well publicised risks, BUT :mad: I don't want to inhale their smoke. If I went round spraying strong smelling perfume in close proximity to people, every few minutes, they'd think I were inconsiderate & more than a little odd! :confused: Similarly, I don't want to smell / inhale their "favourite perfume".

I don't expect there will ever be 100% satisfaction for anyone on the topic of smoking.

[steelerannie]

Well, I'm not offended crt37 & am sure hubby wouldn't be either; I actually thought the instructions were very helpful :D Maybe I have a warped sense of fun, like you?

Smoking is undoubtedly an emotive subject, as shown by this forum! :eek:

Hubby & I have managed to survive 28 yrs of being together, despite his ciggies; :p that's not to say I approve of his smoking, I'd like him to give up for the sake of his own health, but it's his choice / responsibility. He has never smoked in the house or around our 2 sons.

Thomson have taken their decision in accordance with customer feedback, as per one of my quotes from their Cuise News thingies. My opinion is that people can smoke if they choose to, there is no excuse for not knowing the well publicised risks, BUT :mad: I don't want to inhale their smoke. If I went round spraying strong smelling perfume in close proximity to people, every few minutes, they'd think I were inconsiderate & more than a little odd! :confused: Similarly, I don't want to smell / inhale their "favourite perfume".

I don't expect there will ever be 100% satisfaction for anyone on the topic of smoking.

 

I have to agree with you on this - I hate the smell of smoke it gets on your clothes and you can't get rid of it.

 

What annoys me is when you are sat on deck sunbathing and someone comes up and starts smoking at the side of you! When this happens we have to go indoors as my husband has asthma which is made much, much worse when he smells smoke. What's he supposed to do - stay in his cabin the whole cruise?

 

Ann

[banjoman 1]

I have to agree with you on this - I hate the smell of smoke it gets on your clothes and you can't get rid of it.

 

What annoys me is when you are sat on deck sunbathing and someone comes up and starts smoking at the side of you! When this happens we have to go indoors as my husband has asthma which is made much, much worse when he smells smoke. What's he supposed to do - stay in his cabin the whole cruise?

 

Ann

To keep this annoyance going make sure you sunbathe on port side open decks

[banjoman 1]

Well, I'm not offended crt37 & am sure hubby wouldn't be either; I actually thought the instructions were very helpful :D Maybe I have a warped sense of fun, like you?

Smoking is undoubtedly an emotive subject, as shown by this forum! :eek:

Hubby & I have managed to survive 28 yrs of being together, despite his ciggies; :p that's not to say I approve of his smoking, I'd like him to give up for the sake of his own health, but it's his choice / responsibility. He has never smoked in the house or around our 2 sons.

Thomson have taken their decision in accordance with customer feedback, as per one of my quotes from their Cuise News thingies. My opinion is that people can smoke if they choose to, there is no excuse for not knowing the well publicised risks, BUT :mad: I don't want to inhale their smoke. If I went round spraying strong smelling perfume in close proximity to people, every few minutes, they'd think I were inconsiderate & more than a little odd! :confused: Similarly, I don't want to smell / inhale their "favourite perfume".

I don't expect there will ever be 100% satisfaction for anyone on the topic of smoking.

Please get your husband to write a small piece on crt37 comments .:mad:

[steelerannie]

To keep this annoyance going make sure you sunbathe on port side open decks

 

Where else are you supposed to sunbathe then apart from on open decks?????

 

Ann

[abcten]

I have to agree with you on this - I hate the smell of smoke it gets on your clothes and you can't get rid of it.

 

What annoys me is when you are sat on deck sunbathing and someone comes up and starts smoking at the side of you! When this happens we have to go indoors as my husband has asthma which is made much, much worse when he smells smoke. What's he supposed to do - stay in his cabin the whole cruise?

 

Ann

 

I'm afraid I must agree with Ann and Nephthys on this. Banjoman, I think you should put yourself in the shoes of others. What if Ann brought along her pet skunk on holiday and you happened to be on holiday at the same location. Suppose every time you went out for a smoke, Ann's pet skunk gave you a friendly spray. My guess is you would soon grow tired of this. However, knowing that you are in favor of compromise, I'm sure you'd be willing to find an amicable solution whereby the pet skunk only sprayed you 50% of the time you went out for a smoke rather than spraying you 100% of the time. That should rather keep everyone happy, wouldn't you agree?

[banjoman 1]

Where else are you supposed to sunbathe then apart from on open decks?????

 

Ann

Apparently smokers can smoke on port side open decks but not on the starboard side.Where will you choose to sunbathe?

[steelerannie]

They were smoking on both sides when we were on in May/June - that's what I'm getting at!!! There was no escape from the damned smoke

[banjoman 1]

I'm afraid I must agree with Ann and Nephthys on this. Banjoman, I think you should put yourself in the shoes of others. What if Ann brought along her pet skunk on holiday and you happened to be on holiday at the same location. Suppose every time you went out for a smoke, Ann's pet skunk gave you a friendly spray. My guess is you would soon grow tired of this. However, knowing that you are in favor of compromise, I'm sure you'd be willing to find an amicable solution whereby the pet skunk only sprayed you 50% of the time you went out for a smoke rather than spraying you 100% of the time. That should rather keep everyone happy, wouldn't you agree?

I appreciate this is hypothetical and not wanting to sound too pedantic would this be a smoking or non smoking skunk.

[banjoman 1]

They were smoking on both sides when we were on in May/June - that's what I'm getting at!!! There was no escape from the damned smoke

Hi there.Are you sure the smoke wasnt coming from the funnel?