canderson

Perhaps not so much a joke as you might think. Pre-COVID, the difference in dress between Euro and US passengers on European cruises was definitely discernible. Haven't been there enough since COVID to know if that's still the case.

I wonder if X will take that on as well. Then we can all ruminate about how Captain Kate's cat will respond.

FULL Windsor, too, not one of those lopsided subvariants!

What do you mean silly? How else is a person expected to keep the chair warm and comfortable? Have you no respect for the feelings of the furniture? I suppose one could use a beach towel, but I've heard that most chairs prefer to dress for dinner.

Hope they aren't looking forward to any cruise passengers until at least 2030, then. That's when the first 'zero emission' ship MAY launch. Gee, and that launch is planned by the company Hurtigruten Norway. Wonder how that happened? 🤔

Considering our first Oceania cruise this year, and was scrolling through their web site when I ran across some terminology that was a bit unclear. We're wondering what one would expect from a 'reinspiration' vs. a 'refurbishment' so as to set expectations accordingly, and perhaps it will become part of the decision making process. If I were to work through all of the threads, I might be able to discern the meaning, but figured it might be easier to ask those with experience with this brand. From https://oceaniacruises.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006787313-When-were-the-ships-last-refurbished- Our intimate and luxurious ships have been refurbished elevating them to a new level of elegance with completely renewed guest spaces. They were last refurbished on the following dates: Insignia has completed her reinspiration as of: December 2018 Sirena has completed her reinspiration as of: May 2019 Regatta has completed her reinspiration as of: September 2019 Nautica has completed her reinspiration as of: April 2022 Riviera has completed a refurbishment as of: April 2019 Marina has completed a refurbishment as of: April 2020

Wonder why Shadow wasn't in that list?

Just came off the Silversea Dawn and was pleasantly surprised at their facilities. Conveniently located mid-ship. Combination of indoor, partially enclosed outdoor, and outdoor, all nicely appointed, with someone coming through frequently for bar service. Decent cigars and higher end drinks displayed in the indoor area.

And yes. Excursions should be considered very 'fluid' this far out from a 2025 sail date.

I've found the 'stars' and descriptions of what will be required to be fairly accurate, so plan accordingly. The descriptions re mobility for each excursion are some of the best I've seen published by a cruise company and more helpful even than the 'star' ratings, usually describing in detail what is expected. Grab the 'Tour Programme' brochure for the cruise you're considering, and look at each excursion's last paragraph. Examples: LPA-J / Wine & History of Gran Canaria Difficulty OO ... Please note:This tour involves moderate physical activity. Participants must walk a total of 2 km (2200 yards), sometimes over cobblestones and steep areas in the vineyard, stand for some time and negotiate steps at two venues as well as getting on/off the coach.It is not suitable for wheelchair users or guests with very limited mobility. and STC-M / Best of La Palma Island (Wheelchair Accessible) Difficulty OO Price: $149 - Duration: 5.00 hr(s) ... This tour involves a moderate amount of walking and is specially designed for guests who utilise a wheelchair or a scooter. Discover the highlights of lovely La Palma Island during this panoramic, half-day coach excursion that is suitable for guests with limited mobility and guests who utilise a wheelchair. Please note: This tour is specially designed for guests who utilise a wheelchair or a scooter. Full time wheelchair users, are kindly requested to contact shoreconcierge@silversea.comin order to provide further details and determine if the tour is suitable for them.This tour involves a moderate amount of walking for approximately 0.6 miles-0.93 miles (about one-1.5 kilometres), at times over uneven, natural, and cobblestone surfaces, with a few steps to negotiate to get on/off the adapted coach and at the sites visited. An adapted coach is utilised on this tour, which makes it is suitable for guests with limited mobility and guests who utilise a wheelchair.

Ditto for the WB TA on Dawn last month. They were held in the S.A.L.T. restaurant on Dawn, with a 'showing' at the end of the cruise.

9/6 (one could wish) 7/5 or some other payout for J or Better?

Moving back to the topic - Dawn ... it's only 1/2 that price. Wonder how the turn-out has been on Nova at 2x the price?

Guess it depends upon the suite. For the cruises I've looked at, I don't see a lot of difference in pricing between O and SS for anything in the Silver Suite range and above, though O only has a few ships with something close to cabins of that exact size (a few ships with 700+ sq ft Vista). Seems most of O's ships take a big jump between a 'standard' size cabin and the larger ones (400+ sq ft to 1000+ sq ft).

Perfect ensemble for a 'Bliss' cruise! But I don't think SS accepts those charters. 😏

You find the differing visual sensitivities of others to be 'bizarre'. I certainly don't find your position to be so, even though I don't react the same to the same visual stimulus. I wouldn't be rude enough to call it that, even if that was how I felt. The fact that you find it 'bizarre' rather emphasizes my original point. For some others, it clearly is not, and that's the reason that these threads will go on forever.

That. Right there. That lack of understanding of what does and doesn't "impact" others is why these threads will persist.

On Dawn/Atlantide, that fellow I mentioned probably would have required a 52R. They tried on what they had by the closet at the entrance, but didn't have anything that big to fit him, and that's when he left in a huff. They really did expect him to at least wear it into the dining room.

We've heard that about some UK TAs on other line boards as well. When you get your credit card statement, is it the TA or Silversea that shows up? With my TA in the US, it's Silversea and at 120 days. Seems some UK TAs bank the float for 30 days?

On the recent WB Dawn TA, I'd estimate 10-15% of us were in tuxedos on the first 2 formal nights. Higher on the last of the 3 nights.

Agree, but as noted, we still see complaints about an overly strict dress code, so win-win for you and me isn't making everyone happy enough. Since certain SS ships serve some specific itineraries each season, this will always be an issue for some.

Recently off Dawn, and the MD was holding the line in Atlantide. Day 6 (at sea) of the cruise and a fellow was unhappy to 'discover' that a jacket was required for dinner? So assume no change on Dawn for the time being.

If that were true, we wouldn't be seeing the many complaints about the current dress code that some find too strict. Your 'gravitation' is the right approach, but still hold out hope that SS leaves "the former loyalists" (not accurate in our case, as we just completed our first SS cruise) somewhere to gravitate to. In my attempts to book future cruises, I certainly don't find that SS is having any trouble with bookings on Muse class ships .. at least not for the cabin/itinerary combos I've been trying to find, even at the substantially higher prices vs 2023.

Not if the rules say otherwise, no. People gravitate to where they like the rules. It's why people leave some states and move to others. But please don't expect every state to bend to the will of those with different preferences. If Silversea decides to leave the Muse class rules the way they are, please don't expect us to apologize because we've lobbied for that to occur. Your preferences for rules can be found on the vast majority of cruise ships. Why continue to begrudge the rest of us a refuge - in Muse class, for example? That would be a legitimate "two-way street".

Seems a bit of a stretch. I understand what you're trying to say in that first sentence, but truly wonder if you really believe it, or are unintentionally applying it selectively here. Is there nothing that anyone could do over which you would have no control that would annoy you in a dining room, reducing your "happiness"? I think we can agree that every one of us has limits, though regarding different things and to different degrees. What you still don't appear to have ever appreciated in this discussion is that different people have different 'awareness thresholds' for different aspects of the dining experience. Yours does not include "what other people are wearing". That's OK. We understand that's not on your list. Others do pay more mind to this. Please allow them that.