jimbo5544

Please do. You can set your expectation level however you want. The facts are still the same.

I am not sure they are not. The issue comes in the details tied to the request.

I am all for the action, but I have not read of K9 sniffers on board.

TA and PVP have other options. They are free to use.

nothing more from me, wish you well wherever you cruise. You made your view pretty clear, it is not the money it is the principle, mighty noble.

Comparing these two lines makes little sense. I have sailed both also.

Options are a good thing.

That is just foolish. With that logic, every single thing should be given up because the customer (who will leave for twenty bucks). From my perspective, the customer looks way worse with things like this. If they (whomever it is in this hypothetical) leave for twenty bucks, you (the cruise line) never really had them. The ploy of stating how much they would have paid in the future is nothing more than a red herring. The answer (from my perspective anyway) is that the cruise line review the request and do what they think is right, for this case and every other, and that each case is individual. As consumers, that is all we can expect.

I am not going anywhere with it. Trying to understand the dilemma.

It is def not the amount that would drive it, but simply the ability to do it.

That is one that got yanked off on our cruise, I will prob not an opportunity for that again.

Jump on it, you will not be disappointed. Havana rooms on that ship are flat out home runs.

in a literal sense.

apples and orangutans. I do not argue they are not competition, just totally different.

glad we got your view. Comparing cruise lines to land based similarity is just plain foolish. We have dragged that thru the mud before. Nope right back at you.

The real question is whether the changes they did set them apart from the rest of the industry. It is fairly easy to cherry pick things, but we live in extraordinary times. Let's compare with their competitors. Your items mentioned fall in line with them. Cruising is evolving. We can debate whether it is a cutback, decline in service (two way different things in my eyes), or whatever label someone wants to put on it. At the end of the day, if they are meaningful to someone (whether true or not is really not important) then that someone makes choices. The pendulum swings both ways, and it will again. Right now, cruising is going gangbusters, and if CCL (or any line) can make some hay, then good for them. If they become outliers with a service item (in a negative sense) then they will end up paying for it one way or another. Lastly, you did not bring this up, but Celebrity and Carnival are totally different, in every respect (Price being one).

and mine

While they are not a big player for the greek islands, this is still interesting. Lots of changes in the mix, caps in the Med and Northern Europe, issues with Canal passage and more. https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/ports-destinations/carnival-corp-ceo-downplays-threat-cruise-limits-greece

Interesting take, while I have never thought of them in this space, this interview makes clear there is not enough juice in the squeeze to interest them. https://cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/2024/06/carnival-no-plans-to-enter-river-cruise-business/

I am sure it is on a list, and a fairly short one. That said, their focus is reducing debt and refinancing the debt they were taken to the cleaners on. 3 years sounds reasonable, but I know that offering even a small one would go a long way. Their performance since getting back full steam in simply amazing, despite some comments to the contrary.

Being 35 Billion in the hole will make you do things you never did before.

But how much is it?

Seems you are unhappy with the product and people who post here. What does age have to do with it? I always love when people say they work too hard for their money, does that imply the majority here do not? The point is, if you do not like the product, the people who sail them, then move on. Glad we now you have approved the Op's view, we can all rest easy.

Options are a good thing.

Enjoy your cruise, forget the little stuff.