Dr. Cocktail

Gorgeous. https://youtube.com/shorts/78dneFgpAVg?feature=share

First glimpse of the interior…..

If we all ask our neighbours and friends, perhaps we'll all be able to supply Fincantieri and the industry itself with appropriate panels.... I think that this would pretty much define "flammable" !

Please accept my apologies .... if you check, I actually removed my post as Meyer has stated that their ships are not affected. When I went to revise my post and place a quote, the FT had amended their article.

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and Oasis!

It's not just Fincatieri - it's Meyer and Chantiers de l'Atlantique!

I feel your pain - we're in the same position! As I told my agent, too late to cancel without penalty so we'll hope for the best and also hope that if it's a no go, we'll find out sooner than later.

Unlikely - Owens-Corning!

I am frankly shocked at their compensation offer - it's basically meaningless. The bare minimum that they should be offering is a full refund and a free cruise for the number of days that this one was. Travel agents were already reluctant because of MSC's reputation and this will only serve to seal the deal. If you don't have luxury agents on your side, it's game over.

So sorry to hear this - I know how much we all look forward to vacations and this truly is a last minute cancellation. I can only imagine your disappointment let alone the time you would have spent on planning. I am hoping that their response is notable for being overly generous!

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ I think that a formal sit down breakfast would be de rigeur on a luxury line but what is this Yacht Club breakfast you speak of?

No offence but why are you assuming that there won’t be a sit down breakfast? No one has suggested or intimidated that this would be happening…

I think that they're going to pull out all the stops all the way through their first Caribbean season - I'm pretty sure they're aware of MSC's reputation with agents and travelers and will want to prove the doubters wrong. They've invested billions in this enterprise - a few extra million to increase the "wow" factor will be pocket change. But - applying logic to the cruise business doesn't always work!

I will be careful here as I don't want to offend uktog who is very pleasant and leaving on Viking in a few weeks! We did a 7 night Caribbean on Viking Sun which isn't necessarily the best test but it really wasn't for us. The onboard atmosphere was like a mortuary but without the music ... The main dining room was LOUD - I was "only" 55 at the time but if left both of us jittery - not a pleasant dining experience. There were lots of design flaws on board which drove me particularly crazy as Sun was the fourth in a series - you would have thought that all of the issues would have been corrected. The crowd on board was broken into two different camps - the "true believers" who had loved their Viking River voyages and those of us who had sailed on other lines. We were generally "I don't get it". It is most definitely NOT luxury .... it's like Celebrity was at its inception.

How the cruising world has changed! A friend who was very high up in the travel business invited me as his guest for a shakedown Transatlantic cruise on Disney Magic (!) sailing from Fincantieri to the States. EXACTLY same scenario - new cruise line designed and planned by many people with years of experience. My long gone parents parents were not in the greatest of health and even though my partner said "go and have a good time", I couldn't do it.... I still carry some moderate regrets! There was absolutely no way that Disney was letting paid passengers onboard until they had done some dry (wet?) runs ....

Ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh,,,,,,,,, the inaugural! TOTAL new ship smell! Will be extremely eager to hear your thoughts! Extremely excited for you!

.... what's funny about all is this is that I've been SUCH a cheerleader on these boards and I can see myself boarding and going: " Big NO!" I'll actually have made final payment on the second before going on the first ....🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Perhaps but there were a LOT of deals just as cruises were starting back up again. I don’t talk prices onboard anymore because it’s impolite to the paramedics who then have to revive me! Aside from various obc and loyalty offers, prices haven’t fallen below the initial offerings. I think that they’re going to try and maintain some price integrity unless the ship(s) are going out empty. I’m sure they have some occupancy minimums at which point they start to politely panic!

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on this one! I was recently on Regent and while most things were excellent, it really was very "old school" and unexciting. The staff were VERY aware of Explora and one of the senior staff referred to it as "sexy"! As a company, unless you try new things that carry some risk, you'll just be like everyone else. The lack of fixed show times (and shows for that matter!), the expectation that people can just go to the restaurant of their choice without reservations and the design of the ship have obviously been carefully considered by very experienced people. But - things don't always work out. They may need to institute reservations for some venues or experiences or change their entertainment offerings. I've said this before - I like enough of what I see to give them a chance. I wouldn't go back on Regent and recent reviews of Silversea and Seabourn are not confidence inspiring.

I can't disagree with your numbers but you're assuming full capacity of all cabins. I don't think that will happen too often - in fact, they're hoping for 80% double occupancy in the near future. I think that the 23 chi-chi, foofiest cabins would allow a very exclusive experience as you stated. But .... if only 80% of those are booked and not everyone gets off at the Ocean Cay, it's not really a lot of people for a whole lotta' effort! An empty venue can be almost as bad as an overcrowded one .... again, we'll have to see!

I was actually thinking earlier about this when I initially booked - I just hoped that a Penthouse would get me into Ocean House. Seashore has over 125 YC cabins and uses Ocean House whereas Explora inclusive of the OS, Residences and Penthouses would be only 89 cabins. If you wanted to keep it very exclusive, OS and Residences would only be 23 cabins. I think that the answer to many of our questions is "tbd".... I was impressed by statements made by their CEO. He basically said that they're going to throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks!

I was on the third sailing of the Horizon - it was GREAT!