Can P&O Be Serious With Pacific Explorer Add On Charges?

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#1
Australia
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Just read the Cruise Critic review of the Pacific Explorer, the renewed Dawn Princess which we quite enjoyed in the past. Surely others must feel somewhat puzzled by the latest cruise industry grab for guests cash.
The new Luke's Café to charge $6 for French fries and up to $15 for a hamburger, a seven course meal at the Chef's Table $99. The Pizzeria will set you back $25 for a cheese board,$9 for salads and $12 to $16 for a pizza. That's not all folks, $10 for breakfast room service and the P&O Edge Adventure park will be a steal at $139 adults and $119 kids for unlimited access.
We know what they are thinking in the P&O board room, profit, profit, profit but will cruisers go for it?
Add to this the service charge on drinks, tour costs and the extras may cost as much as the cabin hire for the cruise.
Is this the future of cruising? If so our cruise days are numbered after more than 50 cruises.
Obviously the new generation of cruisers have a different attitude to cash and cruising than us old timers and the cruise industry is planning ahead but will cruisers follow?
Well P&O are at the very least teaching the Aussie cruisers a few lessons after being forced to suspend gratuities on all Aussie cruises.
#2
Sydney, Australia
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Edge is definitely worth it, and has been priced like that for a couple of years so is recognised as that.


Chef's table is also value at that price, and similarly priced to the competition.


As for the other food items, they're over priced imo - but still in line with what the market is doing. Time will tell, but the industry seems to think that the consumer will accept it.
#3
Newcastle
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I haven't cruised with P&O before, and am going on the Explorer at the end of July.

I will probably pay to attend the Black Circus as I find the idea of Dinner and a Show appealing. However we won't be visiting Lukes, 400 Gradi Pizza or the Edge. I think we will stick with the Waterfront Restaurant and the Pantry. I'm also not buying into the Drinks Packages as I think they are extremely over priced. There is no way I would drink $89 a day in soft drinks, juices and alcohol ($105 a day to include tea and coffee...really????) , and it makes me wonder how many people drink up big just to get their money's worth.
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#4
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Originally posted by 10bosch
I'm also not buying into the Drinks Packages as I think they are extremely over priced. There is no way I would drink $89 a day in soft drinks, juices and alcohol ($105 a day to include tea and coffee...really????) , and it makes me wonder how many people drink up big just to get their money's worth.
True that. I thought they were way over priced when they started with them. However, they've turned to be very popular and many people bought them up. Thus, as with this example it's not the value you get but whether there's enough of a market out there.

It doesn't always go right though. As a food example, though not with P&O, Celebrity have struggled with their Bistro on 5 pricing, such that it became Sushi on 5 - and still struggles.

It's not a given that all the pricing here will be accepted - but it is the way the mainstream lines are going. Charges have been introduced for previously included food items across a number of cruise lines in the past year.
#5
melbourne australia
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Joined May 2013
Originally posted by Cruisemagpie
The new Luke's Café to charge $6 for French fries and up to $15 for a hamburger, a seven course meal at the Chef's Table $99. The Pizzeria will set you back $25 for a cheese board,$9 for salads and $12 to $16 for a pizza.
Here is the menu for Luke's.

As you can see the prices are much lower than previously reported.
My partner and I had the cheese burger, hot dog, Korean chicken burger, French fries, chicken wings and the prawns (not at the same sitting lol). Everything was ok for the price and in my opinion the tastiest being the Korean chicken burger.
I must also mention that the "grilled spiced Sydney prawns with caesar salad" were delicious, however included only three prawns so should have been described as "caeser salad with prawns".

Also note that the pizzas at 400 gradi are tasty and great value for $10 ea, however not up to the standard of the 400 gradi restaurants on land (pizzas there are around the $28 mark).

Chef's table is $99 and I highly recommend it.
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#6
Sydney, Australia
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Agreed, those prices are much more realistic. I can imagine that they will do decent business at that level. Were they busy enough when you saw them?
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melbourne australia
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Originally posted by The_Big_M
Were they busy enough when you saw them?
Yep, they were popular.
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#8
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Joined Feb 2017
Those prices actually look pretty good $5 for a quality burger. Is it that much better than the burgers on Carnival Spirit or the hot dogs on Ovation OTS though??


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#9
melbourne australia
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Originally posted by Scyl
Those prices actually look pretty good $5 for a quality burger. Is it that much better than the burgers on Carnival Spirit or the hot dogs on Ovation OTS though??


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I cannot comment on carnival or OTS as I haven't tried those, however I can say the patty was not very "beefy" like the American style burgers (eg burger project, 8 bit etc.), but had a proper bun (not a fall apart brioche), tasty sauce and good quality cheese. Keep in mind that taste is subjective and in my opinion it is a good burger.
On the other hand the Korean burger was delicious :-)
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Originally posted by andlep
I cannot comment on carnival or OTS as I haven't tried those, however I can say the patty was not very "beefy" like the American style burgers (eg burger project, 8 bit etc.), but had a proper bun (not a fall apart brioche), tasty sauce and good quality cheese. Keep in mind that taste is subjective and in my opinion it is a good burger.
On the other hand the Korean burger was delicious :-)


How does it compare to burger project?? Better or worse? I eat a lot of burger project, love them!


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#11
melbourne australia
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Originally posted by Scyl
How does it compare to burger project?? Better or worse? I eat a lot of burger project, love them!


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It is not like burger project at all. The patty lacks the delicious pure "beefy" taste of burger project, like herbs and possibly fillers have been added to the mince.

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#12
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Originally posted by andlep
It is not like burger project at all. The patty lacks the delicious pure "beefy" taste of burger project, like herbs and possibly fillers have been added to the mince.

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Thanks, I would consider trying it


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#13
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Originally posted by Scyl
Thanks, I would consider trying it


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Definitely worth it at those prices. I strongly recommend the Korean chicken though

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#14
Australia
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While the new cruiser will probably accept the prices at the pay for food outlets we still cannot help feel that the cruise lines are telling us that if you want good food it will come at additional cost. In 2002 the midnight buffet on the QE2 was something amazing. The free German special dinner we were invited to included magnificent food and free wine and beer. Never see that sort of thing now. Cruise Critic reviews will tell you the dining room and buffet food quality and range is on the decline. Pay extra for good food is not the cruise dining future we would like to see.
#15
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Originally posted by Cruisemagpie
While the new cruiser will probably accept the prices at the pay for food outlets we still cannot help feel that the cruise lines are telling us that if you want good food it will come at additional cost. In 2002 the midnight buffet on the QE2 was something amazing. The free German special dinner we were invited to included magnificent food and free wine and beer. Never see that sort of thing now. Cruise Critic reviews will tell you the dining room and buffet food quality and range is on the decline. Pay extra for good food is not the cruise dining future we would like to see.
Me neither, I will only pay extra for food if it is something special
#16
Sydney
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Joined Oct 2014
Just another idea to charge passengers extra on cruises. COME ON GIVE US A BREAK !!!
We go on cruises because of the food and shows that’s supposed to be included in our fare, now they are charging for so called speciality restaurants where you are not even served by the Celebrity themselves only by some random person who is unknown, now speciality shows . What's next charge for using the pool. P.S Cruise companies if you read this, that was not a suggestion.
#17
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Agree, after 32 cruises, this will be our last in September with P&O. Forever putting your hand in your pocket


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#18
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Originally posted by pptt
Agree, after 32 cruises, this will be our last in September with P&O. Forever putting your hand in your pocket
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History repeating itself. My family used to holiday every year at a different Whitsunday Island resort, which were all inclusive. In addition, we used to spend short holidays at all inclusive mountain resorts at Binna Burra and O'Reillys, in the Gold Coast hinterland. When they stopped being all inclusive, we stopped going. When prices get too high for families, they will find less expensive alternatives.
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Hi MicCanberra My wife and I are RCL loyalists but did enjoy the pacific Jewel and my wife usually gets nails done on the ships and she stated that prices for nails and facials were cheaper than other lines and very friendly staff as well, not that RCL staff are not friendly they are as well. The things you have to pay extra for are the activities where as it's included on other lines then there is the ice cream as it is New Zealand ice cream but you can get sorbet free in the MDR just ask and your friendly waiter will bring you heaps then there is the burgers and pizza which you pay extra for I don't know how much as I was happy with the all inclusive food. What ship are you going on and when?