AdrenalineRush Posted February 15, 2012 #176 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The crew uses the same trickle effect when passengers get off of the ship as the ship uses to get passengers on the ship. Yes, the stewards are up for the early risers rooms to clean them and as people trickle out, they're able to clean through them all. But I never see them standing around waiting for a room to clean. They're always in a room cleaning or out in the hallway grabbing stuff off of their cart. It takes them the entire morning through the trickle effect to clean the rooms. They do the same thing at hotels (my mother used to do housekeeping for a hotel when I was small and I would accompany her and help her sometimes.) Just because they're up at that hour doesn't mean they can get all of the rooms done in less time just because people leave their rooms earlier. I am not saying I have all of the answers.. I don't... in fact I know nothing except for my own logic at this point in time with no other solid facts. If I don't have to get up earlier to get off the ship and the crew doesn't have to get up earlier to start the trickle effect... then cool. :-) Im not sure what you have seen, Im just commenting that I have seen them standing around early in the morning. Normally, they bring out the laundry carts, and have to wait in a holding pattern. Since their job is to clean the rooms, Im assuming that is what they are waiting to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. Advisor King Posted February 15, 2012 #177 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yes, but those people are already doing what they want and going to their cabins. I'd just like Carnival to give me permission to do the same, and then leave. If you want permission, all you have to do is ask. The staff will generally grant it. That is what they're there for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. Advisor King Posted February 15, 2012 #178 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'll add two comments. 1. It never ceases to amaze me how some customers are so concerned about the lot of the employees. I wonder whether those same customers are equally concerned about the electronics and clothing they buy from third world manufacturers whose employees have far less favorable working conditions than that of cruise ship employees. I suspect the difference is that in one case (on the ship), the customers can sort of see it; in the other, they can't, so they can pretend it doesn't exist. 2. It also seems to me that in addition to bringing in extra staff solely to work the turnaround, another option would be to take advantage of technology to determine which cabins will be needed first. They know when each passenger has checked in and they know that passengers check in gradually (though perhaps not evenly) throughout the day. Once disembarkation commences and there is a critical mass of rooms that need attention, it seems to me that they could direct their efforts at the cabins for which the arriving passengers have already checked in. There's no point cleaning a room at 10:00 if the passengers won't arrive until 3:30. By doing this, they could spread the same amount of cleaning over a longer period. That does mean they would have to change their practice of locking doors until the entire hotel is completely turned over. But I don't see that as an insurmountable problem. The result is that instead of waiting perhaps 2 hours to get to your cabin after you've boarded, you might only have to wait something like 30 minutes or maybe not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonCruiser Posted February 15, 2012 #179 Share Posted February 15, 2012 If you want permission, all you have to do is ask. The staff will generally grant it. That is what they're there for. lol...of course they will say that, they depend on tips. Thats probably why Royal places casino and entertainment staff by the cabin access points, so people cant get to their rooms until they want you to. Also some time ago it was mentioned that someone dropped off luggage and left their laptop out.It came up missing..yeah the person shouldnt have left it out, but the room steward would be the one to get blamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. Advisor King Posted February 15, 2012 #180 Share Posted February 15, 2012 lol...of course they will say that, they depend on tips. Thats probably why Royal places casino and entertainment staff by the cabin access points, so people cant get to their rooms until they want you to. Well it seems to me they can't have it both ways (i.e., We're going to let you do what you ask, but then we're going to get upset and complain about it?). If the policy is important, then enforce it with no exceptions. If the policy serves a purpose, but isn't always necessary and is sometimes counter-productive, then provide for exceptions (e.g., by asking permission). If the policy never serves a useful purpose, then get rid of it. Personally, I think this policy is in the middle range and that perception is reinforced to me by Carnival staff. I'm not going to second guess them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonCruiser Posted February 15, 2012 #181 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Well it seems to me they can't have it both ways (i.e., We're going to let you do what you ask, but then we're going to get upset and complain about it?). If the policy is important, then enforce it with no exceptions. If the policy serves a purpose, but isn't always necessary and is sometimes counter-productive, then provide for exceptions (e.g., by asking permission). If the policy never serves a useful purpose, then get rid of it. Personally, I think this policy is in the middle range and that perception is reinforced to me by Carnival staff. I'm not going to second guess them. Thats the reason Royal takes those that are getting tips out of the equation when it comes to allowing guest in cabin before they are all ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizwil10 Posted February 15, 2012 #182 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I really could care less to get in the room earlier. I usually will only have a small carry on anyway. I have been in the hospitality industry of many years and have managed housekeeping staff. If guests are leaving earlier to accommodate for the early checkins, this should not create that much of a change for the staff. Sent from my SCH-I800 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonuf Posted February 16, 2012 #183 Share Posted February 16, 2012 There have been several cases recently where Galveston has been fogged in and the ships weren't even docked by then! I personally would rather get in my cabin later and not get booted out so early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. Advisor King Posted February 16, 2012 #184 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thats the reason Royal takes those that are getting tips out of the equation when it comes to allowing guest in cabin before they are all ready. Ah! I see what you're saying. That makes sense and is not a bad idea. That way it is easier for them to make exceptions by assessing them on the merits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted February 16, 2012 #185 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I thought one of the biggest obstacles was always the bedding (getting it to the laundry and back). I certainly hope they are still doing the full changeout between passengers. There could be many creative ways to do this such as storing a load (or some) clean bedding at the port and loading it on first thing when people get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieworkman Posted February 16, 2012 #186 Share Posted February 16, 2012 2. It also seems to me that in addition to bringing in extra staff solely to work the turnaround, another option would be to take advantage of technology to determine which cabins will be needed first. They know when each passenger has checked in and they know that passengers check in gradually (though perhaps not evenly) throughout the day. Once disembarkation commences and there is a critical mass of rooms that need attention, it seems to me that they could direct their efforts at the cabins for which the arriving passengers have already checked in. There's no point cleaning a room at 10:00 if the passengers won't arrive until 3:30. By doing this, they could spread the same amount of cleaning over a longer period. That does mean they would have to change their practice of locking doors until the entire hotel is completely turned over. But I don't see that as an insurmountable problem. The result is that instead of waiting perhaps 2 hours to get to your cabin after you've boarded, you might only have to wait something like 30 minutes or maybe not at all. There has got to be an app for that!! :D Maggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpilot Posted February 28, 2012 #187 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Anyone on a the last couple Triumph cruises have anything to report on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglinc@msn.com Posted March 1, 2012 #188 Share Posted March 1, 2012 It would be nice just to be able to stop by your cabin and drop off your carry on so you don't have to lug it around for a couple of hours. You used to be able to do that a few years back. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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