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No, MSC have a poor way of expressing themselves, at least in English. As before, the Orchestra does the repo to Fremantle then the Gallipoli charter back to Rome. Perhaps she will return late 2015?

 

I'm going to have to keep an eye out for these then. I'd love to do a longer cruise once my kids are a bit older. We are leaving them for two weeks with my sister next year but that's my limit whilst they are so young (youngest is six).

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This minor update incorporates the now official dates of the Lirica class stretching (see ‘Dry Dock’ below)

 

Key: known facts (best guess itinerary) [reason for update], changes are marked in bold

 

Repositioning Cruises start dates/ports by ship

MSC Opera, 7th October 2014, from Southampton to Cape Town, 21 nights

MSC Lirica, 7th November 2014 from Civitavecchia to Rio de Janeiro (16-17 nights)

MSC Preziosa, 8th November 2014, from Venice to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Magnifica, 8th November 2014, from Hamburg to Buenos Aires, 20 nights

MSC Armonia, 17th November 2014, (Italy to Durban, 18-19 nights, immediately after stretch & refit)

MSC Musica, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Pointre-a-Pitre, Guadeloupe, 18 nights

MSC Poesia, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Orchestra, 25th November 2014, from Venice to Dubai, 18 nights

MSC Sinfonia, 27th November 2014, from Genoa (to Tenerife or Gran Canaria, 9-11 nights)

MSC Orchestra, 21st February, 2015, from Dubai to Fremantle, Australia, 33 nights

MSC Opera, 28th March 2015, from Cape Town to Venice, 19 nights

MSC Poesia, 28th March 2015, from Santos to Venice, 18 nights

MSC Magnifica, 6th April 2015, from Buenos Aires to Venice, 21 nights

MSC Armonia 27th April 2015, from Istanbul (to Venice, 3-4 nights or 1 night without passengers) [May be switched to MSC Opera]

 

Repositioning Cruises end dates/ports by ship

MSC Armonia ending 18th April 2015 at Istanbul (for another ‘Gallipoli’ charter) (from Durban, 18-22 nights, may be switched to another Lirica class ship)

 

'Stationary’ Ships

MSC Divina, year-round Miami

MSC Fantasia, year-round Genoa/Venice

MSC Splendida, year-round Genoa

 

Dry Dock

The MSC Lirica ‘renaissance’ program will follow the dry dock schedule below:

 

MSC Armonia: August 31 to November 17 2014

MSC Sinfonia: January 12 to March 16 2015

MSC Opera: May 2 to July 4 2015

MSC Lirica: August 31 to November 9 2015

 

[MSC Confirms Major Refurb and Ship Stretch for Lirica-Class at Fincantieri]

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Daffydd

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This minor update incorporates the now official dates of the Lirica class stretching (see ‘Dry Dock’ below)

 

Key: known facts (best guess itinerary) [reason for update], changes are marked in bold

 

Repositioning Cruises start dates/ports by ship

MSC Opera, 7th October 2014, from Southampton to Cape Town, 21 nights

MSC Lirica, 7th November 2014 from Civitavecchia to Rio de Janeiro (16-17 nights)

MSC Preziosa, 8th November 2014, from Venice to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Magnifica, 8th November 2014, from Hamburg to Buenos Aires, 20 nights

MSC Armonia, 17th November 2014, (Italy to Durban, 18-19 nights, immediately after stretch & refit)

MSC Musica, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Pointre-a-Pitre, Guadeloupe, 18 nights

MSC Poesia, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Orchestra, 25th November 2014, from Venice to Dubai, 18 nights

MSC Sinfonia, 27th November 2014, from Genoa (to Tenerife or Gran Canaria, 9-11 nights)

MSC Orchestra, 21st February, 2015, from Dubai to Fremantle, Australia, 33 nights

MSC Opera, 28th March 2015, from Cape Town to Venice, 19 nights

MSC Poesia, 28th March 2015, from Santos to Venice, 18 nights

MSC Magnifica, 6th April 2015, from Buenos Aires to Venice, 21 nights

MSC Armonia 27th April 2015, from Istanbul (to Venice, 3-4 nights or 1 night without passengers) [May be switched to MSC Opera]

 

Repositioning Cruises end dates/ports by ship

MSC Armonia ending 18th April 2015 at Istanbul (for another ‘Gallipoli’ charter) (from Durban, 18-22 nights, may be switched to another Lirica class ship)

 

'Stationary’ Ships

MSC Divina, year-round Miami

MSC Fantasia, year-round Genoa/Venice

MSC Splendida, year-round Genoa

 

Dry Dock

The MSC Lirica ‘renaissance’ program will follow the dry dock schedule below:

 

MSC Armonia: August 31 to November 17 2014

MSC Sinfonia: January 12 to March 16 2015

MSC Opera: May 2 to July 4 2015

MSC Lirica: August 31 to November 9 2015

 

[MSC Confirms Major Refurb and Ship Stretch for Lirica-Class at Fincantieri]

 

Orchestra to Fremantle

 

This cruise now on MSC web site with this notice

PRINT THIS PAGE AND GO TO YOUR TRAVEL AGENCY

David

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Skipper Tim

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Which web site - I have just checked UK site and don't see it.

 

Annie

 

Ditto. Searching UK sites only for MSC Orchestra Dubai Fremantle, apart from the paid ads, brings up this CC thread and little of relevance besides!

 

Daffyd, do you have UK pricing?

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Ditto. Searching UK sites only for MSC Orchestra Dubai Fremantle, apart from the paid ads, brings up this CC thread and little of relevance besides!

 

Daffyd, do you have UK pricing?

No I went into my MSC to check my status went then to grand voyages 2015 from Dubai only orchestra showing clicked on and all the ports of call map and message

 

PRINT THIS PAGE AND GO TO YOUR TRAVEL AGENCY

 

Each day of this cruise you will be able to experience the most spectacular wonders of the world: From the contrasts of Mumbai, the temples of Phuket, the skyline of Singapore, the flora of Bali, the inquisitive koalas of Brisbane, the architecture of Sydney, the shopping streets of Melbourne and lots more.

 

A JOURNEY TO THE EDGE OF THE WORLD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Each day of this cruise you will be able to experience the most spectacular wonders of the world: From the contrasts of Mumbai, the temples of Phuket, the skyline of Singapore, the flora of Bali, the inquisitive koalas of Brisbane, the architecture of Sydney, the shopping streets of Melbourne and lots more.

 

At MSC we want to help you discover and explore the world in absolute relaxation. You’ll take thousands of photos, experience millions of emotions and return home with a new awareness of the incredible planet we inhabit.

 

DID YOU KNOW THAT.......

 

 

 

Mumbai

was formerly known as Bombay, which was the English version of Bom Bahia, a Portugese name the navigator Francis Almeida gave it, which means good bay.

 

 

Phuket

When the Burmese attacked Phuket in 1785, they were tricked into retreating by two local sisters, Kunying Jan and Mook, who disguised the local women as male soldiers to make the Thais seem stronger than they were. You can visit a monument to them at Amphoe Thalang.

 

 

Singapore

has the fastest walkers on the planet, after Copenhagen, Madrid, Guangzhou and Dublin.

 

 

Bali

The name Bali conjures images of pristine white tropical beaches, but did you know it also has many stunningly beautiful black sandy beaches, made that way by the island’s volcanoes?

 

 

Sydney

In 1957, 10 Sydney University students dressed as pirates, boarded an American warship, and announced over the PA system: “Now hear this. The U.S.S. Benington has been captured by Sydney University pirates!” Alarms for general quarters, atomic and chemical attack were sounded, rousing the crew from their bunks. The students were escorted off the vessel by marines, but no charges were filed..

 

 

Melbourne

The MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground) was originally located further downriver, but the grounds were prone to flooding, and on more than one occasion the team were forced to advertise for the return of their changing rooms, that had floated off.

 

 

Perth

You thought Singaporeans were rich, but the mining boom has meant that Perth now has the highest number of self-made millionaires per capita of any city in the world.

 

 

MSC GRAND VOYAGES

MSC Orchestra - 33 Nights

from Dubai to Fremantle

FEB 21

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Daffydd

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This minor update incorporates the now official dates of the Lirica class stretching (see ‘Dry Dock’ below)

 

Key: known facts (best guess itinerary) [reason for update], changes are marked in bold

 

Repositioning Cruises start dates/ports by ship

MSC Opera, 7th October 2014, from Southampton to Cape Town, 21 nights

MSC Lirica, 7th November 2014 from Civitavecchia to Rio de Janeiro (16-17 nights)

MSC Preziosa, 8th November 2014, from Venice to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Magnifica, 8th November 2014, from Hamburg to Buenos Aires, 20 nights

MSC Armonia, 17th November 2014, (Italy to Durban, 18-19 nights, immediately after stretch & refit)

MSC Musica, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Pointre-a-Pitre, Guadeloupe, 18 nights

MSC Poesia, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Orchestra, 25th November 2014, from Venice to Dubai, 18 nights

MSC Sinfonia, 27th November 2014, from Genoa (to Tenerife or Gran Canaria, 9-11 nights)

MSC Orchestra, 21st February, 2015, from Dubai to Fremantle, Australia, 33 nights

MSC Opera, 28th March 2015, from Cape Town to Venice, 19 nights

MSC Poesia, 28th March 2015, from Santos to Venice, 18 nights

MSC Magnifica, 6th April 2015, from Buenos Aires to Venice, 21 nights

MSC Armonia 27th April 2015, from Istanbul (to Venice, 3-4 nights or 1 night without passengers) [May be switched to MSC Opera]

 

Repositioning Cruises end dates/ports by ship

MSC Armonia ending 18th April 2015 at Istanbul (for another ‘Gallipoli’ charter) (from Durban, 18-22 nights, may be switched to another Lirica class ship)

 

'Stationary’ Ships

MSC Divina, year-round Miami

MSC Fantasia, year-round Genoa/Venice

MSC Splendida, year-round Genoa

 

Dry Dock

The MSC Lirica ‘renaissance’ program will follow the dry dock schedule below:

 

MSC Armonia: August 31 to November 17 2014

MSC Sinfonia: January 12 to March 16 2015

MSC Opera: May 2 to July 4 2015

MSC Lirica: August 31 to November 9 2015

 

[MSC Confirms Major Refurb and Ship Stretch for Lirica-Class at Fincantieri]

 

Tim

Will this site help in tying up any loose ends re Lirica

David

 

http://www.msccruises.com.au/au_en/Msc/MSC-Cruises-Grand-Voyages.aspx#tab8

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Daffydd

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This minor update incorporates the now official dates of the Lirica class stretching (see ‘Dry Dock’ below)

 

Key: known facts (best guess itinerary) [reason for update], changes are marked in bold

 

Repositioning Cruises start dates/ports by ship

MSC Opera, 7th October 2014, from Southampton to Cape Town, 21 nights

MSC Lirica, 7th November 2014 from Civitavecchia to Rio de Janeiro (16-17 nights)

MSC Preziosa, 8th November 2014, from Venice to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Magnifica, 8th November 2014, from Hamburg to Buenos Aires, 20 nights

MSC Armonia, 17th November 2014, (Italy to Durban, 18-19 nights, immediately after stretch & refit)

MSC Musica, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Pointre-a-Pitre, Guadeloupe, 18 nights

MSC Poesia, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Orchestra, 25th November 2014, from Venice to Dubai, 18 nights

MSC Sinfonia, 27th November 2014, from Genoa (to Tenerife or Gran Canaria, 9-11 nights)

MSC Orchestra, 21st February, 2015, from Dubai to Fremantle, Australia, 33 nights

MSC Opera, 28th March 2015, from Cape Town to Venice, 19 nights

MSC Poesia, 28th March 2015, from Santos to Venice, 18 nights

MSC Magnifica, 6th April 2015, from Buenos Aires to Venice, 21 nights

MSC Armonia 27th April 2015, from Istanbul (to Venice, 3-4 nights or 1 night without passengers) [May be switched to MSC Opera]

 

Repositioning Cruises end dates/ports by ship

MSC Armonia ending 18th April 2015 at Istanbul (for another ‘Gallipoli’ charter) (from Durban, 18-22 nights, may be switched to another Lirica class ship)

 

'Stationary’ Ships

MSC Divina, year-round Miami

MSC Fantasia, year-round Genoa/Venice

MSC Splendida, year-round Genoa

 

Dry Dock

The MSC Lirica ‘renaissance’ program will follow the dry dock schedule below:

 

MSC Armonia: August 31 to November 17 2014

MSC Sinfonia: January 12 to March 16 2015

MSC Opera: May 2 to July 4 2015

MSC Lirica: August 31 to November 9 2015

 

[MSC Confirms Major Refurb and Ship Stretch for Lirica-Class at Fincantieri]

 

Tim

Will this site help in tying up any loose ends re Lirica

David

 

http://www.msccruises.com.au/au_en/Msc/MSC-Cruises-Grand-Voyages.aspx#tab8

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This is just an observation that most of the confirmed repo cruises are a full 2 days slower than their nearest equivalents from the previous two years e.g. instead of 16 or 17 nights between Italy and Brazil, next year they are 18 or 19 nights, instead of 18 or 19 between Italy and Argentina, next year they are 20 and 21. Looking through the itineraries, there is no corresponding increase in the ports of call. Conclusion: MSC appear to be 1) saving fuel by reducing cruising speed and 2) keeping guests captive at sea for longer.

 

Thoughts?

 

By reducing speed, maybe there are also becoming more guest oriented and providing more of a "cruising feeling" instead of just transporting passengers. My impression was that especially on sea days, MSC ships would move so fast as if they had a competition on who arrives first. It was not very nice for us passengers. So I am happy with more days for a transatlantic :)

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It's very annoying that voyages up until 2015 are on sale elsewhere but we have to wait until February for the UK to release their proces and start taking bookings.

Sorry

Time zone playing havoc with my brains tried to put all in one post but while on I pad cutting & pasting techniques not to good

But will be home for new year

David

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Incorporating all known information from multiple sources, this is the most comprehensive MSC repositioning cruise timetable yet. Links are provided where available. (Information in brackets is best-guess based on all available information).

 

Repositioning Cruises start dates/ports by ship

MSC Opera, 7th October 2014, from Southampton to Cape Town, 21 nights

MSC Lirica, 26th October 2014 from Genoa to Santos, 20 nights [MSC AU]

MSC Preziosa, 8th November 2014, from Venice to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Magnifica, 8th November 2014, from Hamburg to Buenos Aires, 20 nights

MSC Armonia, 17th November 2014, (Italy to Durban, 19-21 nights, immediately after stretch & refit)

MSC Musica, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Pointre-a-Pitre, Guadeloupe, 18 nights

MSC Poesia, 17th November 2014, from Genoa to Santos, 19 nights

MSC Orchestra, 25th November 2014, from Venice to Dubai, 18 nights

MSC Sinfonia, 27th November 2014, from Genoa (to Tenerife or Gran Canaria, 9-11 nights)

MSC Orchestra, 21st February, 2015, from Dubai to Fremantle, Australia, 33 nights

MSC Preziosa, 15th March 2015, from Santos to Genoa, 20 nights [MSC AU]

MSC Lirica, 23rd March 2015, from Rio de Janeiro to La Spezia, 20 nights [MSC AU]

MSC Opera, 28th March 2015, from Cape Town to Venice, 19 nights

MSC Poesia, 28th March 2015, from Santos to Venice, 18 nights

MSC Magnifica, 6th April 2015, from Buenos Aires to Venice, 21 nights

MSC Musica, 10th April 2015, from Pointe-A-Pitre, Guadeloupe to Venice, 20 nights [MSC AU]

MSC Armonia 27th April 2015, from Istanbul (to Venice, 3-4 nights or 1 night without passengers) [May be switched to MSC Opera]

 

Dry Dock

The MSC Lirica class will undergo a ‘renaissance’ stretching and refitting program as follows:

MSC Armonia (2004): August 31 to November 17 2014

MSC Sinfonia (2005): January 12 to March 16 2015

MSC Opera (2004): May 2 to July 4 2015

MSC Lirica (2003): August 31 to November 9 2015

 

Repositioning Cruise end date/port

MSC Armonia ending 18th April 2015 at Istanbul (for another ‘Gallipoli’ charter) (from Durban, 18-22 nights, or may be switched to another Lirica class ship from another port)

 

'Stationary’ Ships

MSC Divina, year-round Miami

MSC Fantasia, year-round Genoa/Venice

MSC Splendida, year-round Genoa

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It's very annoying that voyages up until 2015 are on sale elsewhere but we have to wait until February for the UK to release their proces and start taking bookings.

 

Same thing here in North America. MSC's booking policy is stupid.

 

I booked a cruise on the Musica for 8th November 2014. I also want to book for 15th November and 17th November 2014. These 2 cruises are not open for booking in North America but people can book them elsewhere which means that people can book my cabin. I spoke with MSC USA and there is nothing they can or won't do about it. I told them that I want the same cabin for the 3 cruises otherwise I will cancel. I am not interested in changing cabins twice during a cruise.

 

I asked them to give me the email address for the main office in Italy but I haven't received anything yet...

 

Nice way to treat an almost black card member.

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Same thing here in North America. MSC's booking policy is stupid.

 

I booked a cruise on the Musica for 8th November 2014. I also want to book for 15th November and 17th November 2014. These 2 cruises are not open for booking in North America but people can book them elsewhere which means that people can book my cabin. I spoke with MSC USA and there is nothing they can or won't do about it. I told them that I want the same cabin for the 3 cruises otherwise I will cancel. I am not interested in changing cabins twice during a cruise.

 

I asked them to give me the email address for the main office in Italy but I haven't received anything yet...

 

Nice way to treat an almost black card member.

 

 

 

Reply from MSC to travel agent 23rd December 12.55

David

 

See below for reply from MSC:

 

Kind regards

John

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(Hi John,

 

Really fustigating for us too as we are waiting for the rates to be released but these sailings are not yet bookable - may be 2nd week in January Thanks )

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Campion

Specialist Cruise Consultant

http://www.Cruise.co.uk

 

Direct Tel: 0800 408 6186

General Reservations: 0800 408 6200

Email: johnc@cruise.co.uk

Read My Blog: http://cruisewithjohn.co.uk/

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You can make the reservation under www.msccruises.com, which is our European site.

We all know that we can't book any cruises on any MSC European websites if we don't live in Europe. MSC USA should test their info before giving it to customers. :rolleyes:

 

European travel agents will be more than helpful to assist, however.

 

The internet will eventually bring down the practice of corporate stitching-up by geography. They are not in control - we are!

 

Merry Christmas 2013.

 

T.

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European travel agents will be more than helpful to assist, however.

 

The internet will eventually bring down the practice of corporate stitching-up by geography. They are not in control - we are!

 

Merry Christmas 2013.

 

T.

 

Are we??

 

Can we control the pricing however??

 

Happy Christmas everyone

 

Annie

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Thanks for posting the link. I am afraid that at those prices (more than Euro 2200 pp for an inside cabin) for a repositioning to South America, we will not take next year MSC for our annual migration. What a pitty:(

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Thanks for posting the link. I am afraid that at those prices (more than Euro 2200 pp for an inside cabin) for a repositioning to South America, we will not take next year MSC for our annual migration. What a pitty:(

 

The prices include the airfare. ;)

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