RevNeal Posted March 3, 2015 #26 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Government employees fall into a different category here in the US. They can be in essence forced to come to work even if they are not being paid on time. Failure to show up for work could lead to dismissal though admittedly that's an extreme situation. While some government employees are covered by union negotiated "contracts" these contracts are not quite the same as a totally private corporation and its contracts with its employees. Isn't forcing someone to work without financial compensation tantamount to slavery? In very the least, it sounds like indentured servitude. It's bad enough that when non-essential government employees are furloughed they are not allowed to find supplemental work in order to "make ends meet." But, apart from the immediacy of war or natural disaster, to force people to actually work without the promise of any compensation at all is highly unethical. And especially-so when those who are issuing the orders that are forcing others to work are, themselves, continuing to be paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted March 3, 2015 #27 Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Isn't forcing someone to work without financial compensation tantamount to slavery? In very the least, it sounds like indentured servitude. It's bad enough that when non-essential government employees are furloughed they are not allowed to find supplemental work in order to "make ends meet." But, apart from the immediacy of war or natural disaster, to force people to actually work without the promise of any compensation at all is highly unethical. And especially-so when those who are issuing the orders that are forcing others to work are, themselves, continuing to be paid. It's a mess for sure. In reality "forcing" Federal civil servants to work without immediate compensation is not quite as prevalent as the present DHS situation would imply. It also involves a rather complex and admittedly confusing set of rules and regulations that quite frankly are too long and probably not appropriate for discussion here as they have little bearing on cruising. Edited March 3, 2015 by Randyk47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnig Posted March 3, 2015 #28 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Vote has been taken, all good to go through September! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted March 3, 2015 #29 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Vote has been taken, all good to go through September! Thanks for sharing. I hadn't heard. Wonder if it was a 'clean bill' without the Immigration issue or...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted March 3, 2015 #30 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Thanks for sharing. I hadn't heard. Wonder if it was a 'clean bill' without the Immigration issue or...... A clean bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon1 Posted March 3, 2015 #31 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Thanks for sharing. I hadn't heard. Wonder if it was a 'clean bill' without the Immigration issue or...... The fight continues. Now, we have until September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted March 3, 2015 #32 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Thanks, both of you. I wonder how many more circus acts we can witness between now and then? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted March 4, 2015 #33 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Thanks, both of you.I wonder how many more circus acts we can witness between now and then? :rolleyes: In terms of immediate or significant impact on cruising, including such mundane aspects like flying, there shouldn't be anything until late this year. Other circus acts.....who knows? :rolleyes::eek::D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted March 4, 2015 #34 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In terms of immediate or significant impact on cruising, including such mundane aspects like flying, there shouldn't be anything until late this year. Other circus acts.....who knows? :rolleyes::eek::D Considering the umbers of clowns involved on both sides of the aisle ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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