Casino Question...

[burger40]

I believe the age to gamble in Princess is 21....how strict are they about this....I have a 20 yr. old going next month

[nets33]

I can depend on the ship - I've seen the casino staff asking young passengers to leave and I've seen others playing slots.

[LARGIN]

Very... And if your son wins a big jackpot he will not be paid.

[RodneyG]

Only the Casino managers can ask for ID , croupiers cant. Your 20 yr old can play and win unless he is questioned or asked to leave.

The croupiers dont mind at all , yet the 21 yr old limit is strictly applied by some casino management and if a punter complains.

We had a 17 yr old playing Holdem with us in Dec , he was a good kid , but VERY baby faced , a great poker player too and a character. He was asked how old he was a few times by management. He said he was 21 but didnt have id on him , he left the casino , saying he would be back to produce it. Came back a few hours later and sat to play. He pulled the same stunt a few times and eventually I think the management and croupiers had seen him so much , they thought someone else had checked and he was indeed of age and allowed him to play on.

We thought he was 18 , the players that is and our line of thinking was - "old enough to vote and die for your country - old enough to play poker."

21 is a ridiculous limitiation IMHO.

[Daniel1313]

I agree it's a ridiculous limititation, BUT!!!!!! Like the above poster said, if they happen to win big, they check your ID. If you do not have one to produce that shows your 21, you lose everything......

[Julia’s Journey’s]

I agree it's a ridiculous limititation, BUT!!!!!! Like the above poster said, if they happen to win big, they check your ID. If you do not have one to produce that shows your 21, you lose everything......

 

Great way for the casino's not to pay:D :D

[flamomo]

I have to ask, and will probably get royally flamed, but here goes:

 

What message is a parent givimg their young adult who is under 21 if they tell them it's olay to use the casino? That it's okay to ignore the cruiseline's rules? That it's okay to ignore the age requirement for gambling, because they are "almost 21"?

 

If that's the case, in the event they win a jackpot and Princess refuses to pay them, that seems only right.

 

It might be a good practice for the cruiselines to make the sign-n-sail cards for under 21s a different color from those of 21 and older. That could help reduce the problems with gambling and alcohol purchases by underage PAX.

[Julia’s Journey’s]

I have to ask, and will probably get royally flamed, but here goes:

 

What message is a parent givimg their young adult who is under 21 if they tell them it's olay to use the casino? That it's okay to ignore the cruiseline's rules? That it's okay to ignore the age requirement for gambling, because they are "almost 21"?

 

If that's the case, in the event they win a jackpot and Princess refuses to pay them, that seems only right.

 

It might be a good practice for the cruiselines to make the sign-n-sail cards for under 21s a different color from those of 21 and older. That could help reduce the problems with gambling and alcohol purchases by underage PAX.

 

I thought all under 21's got a blue card on Princess, guess I was wrong

[dforeigner]

I have to ask, and will probably get royally flamed, but here goes:

 

What message is a parent givimg their young adult who is under 21 if they tell them it's olay to use the casino? That it's okay to ignore the cruiseline's rules? That it's okay to ignore the age requirement for gambling, because they are "almost 21"?

 

If that's the case, in the event they win a jackpot and Princess refuses to pay them, that seems only right.

 

It might be a good practice for the cruiselines to make the sign-n-sail cards for under 21s a different color from those of 21 and older. That could help reduce the problems with gambling and alcohol purchases by underage PAX.

 

 

Unfortunately today's society's (some not all) has the I can do what ever I feel like doing as I do not have to follow the rules attitude. Then when having to pay the consequences, they will start crying that it is not fair, they did not know, they are being picked on because (what ever excuse they choose), their Constitutional rights are being violated (although this is being enforce by a private enterprise and not a Government entity), etc.

 

As many have said, if WWI or WWII were to be fought today (with today's attitudes), the US would probably would lose the war.

 

Guess, I just took the heat off of you and the one who will get flamed is going to be me. For the record, I have over 15 years to go before I can apply for a senior citizen discount.

[flamomo]

"I thought all under 21's got a blue card on Princess, guess I was wrong"

 

Princess first-time PAX get blue cards. Beginning with the 2nd cruise they are issued gold cards.

We're at the gold card level, so don't know what color is given to Platinum and Elite cruisers. Maybe a poster with that knowledge can enlighten us.

[dazee8]

Platinum= Silver or Platinum color

Elite= Black

 

Past passengers do get colored cruise cards starting on their second cruise. One item to note, if you have a teenager who has cruised before, they will not get a colored cruise card until they turn age 18.

 

:)

[Ethel5]

Guess you forgot that you asked this earlier. :)

 

The cruise card is marked in the lower right hand corner with an "A" for adult or "M" for minor. They do check your cruise card if you win and your son will not be paid off if he should win a jackpot.

[RodneyG]

Rather ask what message is the cruiseline sending by insisting on a 21 limit - perhaps "Although your country allows you to vote , die , drive, drink , legally enter most contracts ,be considered an adult for crimal acts and penal institutions and have sex at 18 - WE consider you an infant and dont think you can be trustworthy and will have to act as your nanny"

 

Another spin on this "what message" thing is , who gave flamomo the right to criticise the way the original poster has brought up their child or their morals in doing so - what an absolute cheek to even question the OP on this point!!

 

I can assure you of one thing , the casino management will not refuse to pay out winnings if won by an underage - the hoo hah associated with it will be VERY bad publicity and most ppl would view it as a weasel out clause. The casinos want to project an image of trust , and if you cant trust them to pay out , thats real bad - they took the money in the first place - so they should pay. Legally they might be able to not do so , but in terms of marketing or reality , they will.

[Ethel5]

Another spin on this "what message" thing is , who gave flamomo the right to criticise the way the original poster has brought up their child or their morals in doing so - what an absolute cheek to even question the OP on this point!!

 

And who gave you the right to take away Flamomo's right to his opinion?

[Nasty5037]

I can weigh in on this dicussion I am 19 years old and enjoy playing cards and enjoy to gamble to an extent. I went on the Jewel of the Seas last april when i was 18 and was able to gamble and drink beer. by far this was the most fun i have ever had cruising. I'm not much of a drinker but being able to gamble was fun i won $5000 playing texas holdem met a lot of nice people, people i still talk to today. What i don't understand is why princess doesn't allow 18 year olds to gamble when we are classified as adults in almost every aspect at 18. Also this limits what 18-20 year olds can do this is an age group that gets left behind because almost everything on princess is 21+ and teen groups end at 17.18 is old enough to make decisions regarding money like gambling in my opinion and 21 limit is ludacris. When I go on the Sun this march i wont bother playing cards or going into the casino because there is an age limit and I will just travel on RCL intil Princess gets there act together or i turn 21. So if your son is 20 I wouldn't reccomend playing in the casino because if your son does hit big which is possable he wont be paid and itll just be a waste. I hope they change this dumb restriction when cruise ship docks the 1st thing im doing is going to the casinos on the islands and using my money there. It just a waste of potential revenue for the casino (its really killer for games like texas holdem in which the casino always gets paid and never losses because of the rake.).

 

 

Mike D

[flamomo]

To Ethel5:

Thank you for that info re:cards marked with A or M. I noticed that on my cards, but didn't know what it meant.

 

To RodneyG:

Please climb down off your high horse. I was NOT speaking to the original posters child rearing skills or their morals. And I certainly was not commenting on any message the cruiseline is making by the rules that are currently in place.

My question related to rules established by the cruiseline; and why is it okay to be noncompliant? Just because you want to? Because compliance will keep you from doing whatever pleases you?

It really does not matter what, at 18, a young person can legally do. What really should matter is that when there are rules in place, responsible people should follow them JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN PLACE. Doesn't mean everyone wll agree with them, but until the rules are changed, they should be followed.

Enough about this. Let's not let this turn rancorous. As Ethel5 indicated, I'm as entitled to my thoughts as you are. But I did not appreciate the pomposity of your response. There are more polite ways to disagree.

[Hanah481]

I disaree with you Rodney. If someone under 21 won money at the casino, I would BET you anything they would not pay whether it was bad publicity or not...

[burger40]

When I made this post, I was just looking for a reply to the question...it never seems to amaze me how people go on a rant about child rearing and morals instead of simply answering the question...My sincere thanks to the few who did answer the question...how refreshing !!!!!

[RodneyG]

How on earth does not following a 21 and over rule at a casino by letting a 20 yr old play make YOUR cruise a lesser experience?

 

Asking for retribution in the form of not getting paid out on a win cos the OP had the "gall" to even consider letting their "underage" kid play is a very mean spirited response.

[LARGIN]

RodneyG

What part of this don't you understand?

 

From the current Princess Passage Contract..

 

"No alcohol may be purchased or consumed by any Passengers under the age of 21. No Passenger under the age of 21 shall be permitted to engage in any gaming activities on board the ship."

[LARGIN]

RodneyG

What part of this don't you understand?

 

From the current Princess Passage Contract..

 

"No alcohol may be purchased or consumed by any Passengers under the age of 21. No Passenger under the age of 21 shall be permitted to engage in any gaming activities on board the ship."

[burger40]

and my question was...how strict are they about this on the ships? What part of the question did you not understand?

[MCManders99]

I am 29 (but I don't look like it at all). When DH and I went on our Honeymoon on the Sun, I was asked twice to show ID to play in the casino. After the second time, I was recognized and they didn't ask since they knew I was. I wouldn't recommend it if you are under 21.

[LARGIN]

and my question was...how strict are they about this on the ships? What part of the question did you not understand?

Read my answer to you.. Post #3 I understood your question quite clearly

[burger40]

Sorry if I miss took your post to Rodney G as directed torward me, but as is the case many times on these boards, people go off on moral tangents when all that is needed is a simple asnswer to a simple question. Again, my thanks to the people who have answered from their experiences in Princess casinos