Carnival casino pay out...

[MamaParrotHead]

I was told/under the impression that Carnival/cruiseline casinos were super tight in the pay out department because they didn't have to adhere to the standard US pay out percentages.

 

In watching "Cruising Do's and Don't's" tonight on the Travel Channel, a casino manager from Carnival stated that they adhere to Nevada pay out percentages.

 

:confused: Can anyone confirm or refute this? Not that we're big gamblers, but just curious.

 

Thanks.

[CruiseReg]

I'd like to know this as well. I may email the casino host on the Legend (sailing her on 4/15 again) to see if they'll tell me the percentages. Somehow I doubt they will.

[giggster11]

I read in the Princess forum on CC about a year and a half ago about how slots were adjusted somehow to pay out less after the first port. Don't know the thread...only that they talked to someone in the casino before. We were winning small scale the first two days on one of their cruises and then it was tough after that. Just an interesting thought if it's true.

[barbevrn]

How do you contact the casino managers for a certain ship anyway?

[chasetf]

I'd like to know this as well. I may email the casino host on the Legend (sailing her on 4/15 again) to see if they'll tell me the percentages. Somehow I doubt they will.

Why would you think they would ever share this information. :confused: Would you ask someone in a store..... "How much are you making off of me when I purchase this product ?" :confused: :confused:

 

I would also think if you found it out you would not like the answer. I would be surprized if they even approached Vegas or other gambling mecas. Those casinos have competion. A ship doesn't.

[nycruises]

Hell with the slots. How about the drinks after speaking to a crew member on a excursion she said that not only do they get most items below cost some are free. Rum and coke Pax rate $5.49 crew $0.85 tell me thats fair. Also ever watch them make a foo foo drink 2 shots of liquor 3 shots mix and ice lots of ice. Even heard a bartender say carnival is genius they make more money off ice they produce them self than anything else.

[smgardner]

If you want to gamble, and I will, they can't slant table games. the Roulette ball, black jacl tables and dice should be true...I hope anyway!

Besides, those games are more fun...

[stanford's girl]

I read in the Princess forum on CC about a year and a half ago about how slots were adjusted somehow to pay out less after the first port. Don't know the thread...only that they talked to someone in the casino before. We were winning small scale the first two days on one of their cruises and then it was tough after that. Just an interesting thought if it's true.

I'd believe it because the first two days of my cruise, I won quite alot. :D

After that, it was all downhill.:(

[rburns44]

Barbevrn, Go to oceanplayers.com and click on your cruise ship. Twice when I have contacted them with a question they have decorated my cabin. A couple of free drinks, and a shirt also!

 

Becky

[Las Vegas Non Rev]

Slot payout in Nevada range from 90%-100% depending on where you play. http://mitchell.casinocitytimes.com/articles/12599.html

The Las Vegas Strip being the worst. I have no data but i am sure the ships fall well below the 90%,And on Carnival the "Fun 21" removes all of the Queens from the decks, reducing your chance of hitting Blackjack. So I would not believe that they are in line with Las Vegas or Nevada at all.

[lindasuej]

I don't know about the percentages but I do know that if you win more than $1,000 they give you a 1099. It happened to a friend of mine. We were shocked because we were on the high seas but they said they have to give them out.

 

Linda

[ALVINF]

How do you contact the casino managers for a certain ship anyway?

 

Go to www.oceanplayersclub.com

There will be a menu item (contact us) where it will give you a choice of ships to contact the casino host.

[osiebosie]

Cruise ship casinos are not regulated by the Nevada Gaming Authority, so, my guess is, and I have heard, that the machines are programed to pay out less.

 

Having said that, I've seen some decent payouts on cruise ships, and have received some myself.

 

Bottom line: know what you are doing and how to play. Even with poor pay-out odds, you still need to play slots correctly. There are many books on how to play them. Lots of people think there's nothing to it, and only drop one coin in progressive machines, or machines that have to have all coins played to reach a bonus. They are giving the casino even more money. Get a book. Also, if you don't know how to play blackjack, get a book on that before you play. There is some basic strategy to know. It's your hard-earned money; make the best bet with it.

 

Carnival and Norwegian will fill out a 1099 if you hit more than 1199.00. Celebrity doesn't. Go figure.

 

Shay

[sunlover5]

We found our cruise on the Liberty they were very tight! On RC we found first few nights they were great and then not!! But this past cruise on RC DH came out 600.00 ahead on the last night. Won big on 2 slots. If I wouldn't have lost he would have come out more ahead!!!:D

[OhioJeff]

I was told/under the impression that Carnival/cruiseline casinos were super tight in the pay out department because they didn't have to adhere to the standard US pay out percentages.

 

In watching "Cruising Do's and Don't's" tonight on the Travel Channel, a casino manager from Carnival stated that they adhere to Nevada pay out percentages.

 

:confused: Can anyone confirm or refute this? Not that we're big gamblers, but just curious.

 

Thanks.

Yes, that is correct

http://www.iccl.org/policies/gambling.cfm

[MamaParrotHead]

Yes, that is correct

http://www.iccl.org/policies/gambling.cfm

 

Guess that answers that definitively. ;)

[supermike]

Guess that answers that definitively. ;)

 

 

I'm not sure it does. The link says that the machines have to adhere to the Nevada Gaming Commission rules.

Remember the Gaming Comm. does not regulate payout percentages in anyway. Competition drives that. The only requirement in Nevada is that they pay back 75% minimum and that the machine pays what it says it pays. If it says they pay 98%..then they are required by law to pay back 98%.

Also, the casinos are not in anyway required to TELL you want their machines pay. However, if they post a % payout, they are required to pay that %.

 

Finally, and MUCH more importantly, casinos cannot easily change the payback % on a particular slot. These % paybacks are set inthe software and require a fairly time consuming swap to change. I can guarantee however that they are nowhere near 95% payback. Like someone said earlier, they are the only game in town, they don't need to payback more. You're not going anywhere else.

 

Hope this helps!

[SouthernCaribbean]

I'm not sure it does. The link says that the machines have to adhere to the Nevada Gaming Commission rules.

Remember the Gaming Comm. does not regulate payout percentages in anyway. Competition drives that. The only requirement in Nevada is that they pay back 75% minimum and that the machine pays what it says it pays. If it says they pay 98%..then they are required by law to pay back 98%.

Also, the casinos are not in anyway required to TELL you want their machines pay. However, if they post a % payout, they are required to pay that %.

 

Finally, and MUCH more importantly, casinos cannot easily change the payback % on a particular slot. These % paybacks are set inthe software and require a fairly time consuming swap to change. I can guarantee however that they are nowhere near 95% payback. Like someone said earlier, they are the only game in town, they don't need to payback more. You're not going anywhere else.

 

Hope this helps!

 

As long as the payout is over 74% wouldnt they in compliance with minimum payout percentage in Nevada?

[MamaParrotHead]

I'm not sure it does. The link says that the machines have to adhere to the Nevada Gaming Commission rules.

Remember the Gaming Comm. does not regulate payout percentages in anyway. Competition drives that. The only requirement in Nevada is that they pay back 75% minimum and that the machine pays what it says it pays. If it says they pay 98%..then they are required by law to pay back 98%.

Also, the casinos are not in anyway required to TELL you want their machines pay. However, if they post a % payout, they are required to pay that %.

 

Finally, and MUCH more importantly, casinos cannot easily change the payback % on a particular slot. These % paybacks are set inthe software and require a fairly time consuming swap to change. I can guarantee however that they are nowhere near 95% payback. Like someone said earlier, they are the only game in town, they don't need to payback more. You're not going anywhere else.

 

Hope this helps!

 

"All equipment purchased and installed on cruise vessels will meet the regulatory standards of the Nevada Gaming Control Board or other licensed jurisdiction for payback and internal software. ":confused:

[supermike]

"All equipment purchased and installed on cruise vessels will meet the regulatory standards of the Nevada Gaming Control Board or other licensed jurisdiction for payback and internal software. ":confused:

 

Yes. And like I said, there are two components of that payback:

1) It has to pay back a minimum of 75%--thats IT.

2) If the maching has a posted payout %, then it must pay that %.

 

So a cruise ship can have a slot machine that pays out 80%--and it meets all standards.

And I will have you know 80% is TERRIBLE for a slot payout.

 

Ok?

[zebra36]

"All equipment purchased and installed on cruise vessels will meet the regulatory standards of the Nevada Gaming Control Board or other licensed jurisdiction for payback and internal software. ":confused:

 

Hi MPH,

As noted complying with Nevada minimum standards does not mean a heck of a lot. I just figure I will blow my $10 when I sit down at the penny machines and as long as I get some play I am happy.

 

Good Luck!

[MamaParrotHead]

If I can play for an hour on my $20 on the penny slots, I'm happy. :)

 

Thanks, everyone.

[miss_jevious]

The casino's on the ship are the only game in town(as one poster said) so their slot machines will be set up to pay the min. payout allowed. The house is always going to take every advantage they can. This doesn't mean you can't hit a jackpot, you just have to be at the machine when that golden $ amount the machine is set to take in is hit.

As far as the Fun 21 goes, any version of blackjack that isn't straight blackjack will have different rules to make the odds more favorable for the house. Because there is an extra advantage to the player. There are extra bonus' for the players in this game, so yeah they are going to remove something from the deck. This is standard in any casino. They also have Face Up 21, you get to see both of the dealers cards. The advantage to the house, there are no pushes. So if you and the dealer have 20, guess what, you have to hit your 20 or lose your money.

As a pit boss for Harrah's, I have to agree with Shay. Learn the games you want to play. There are definetly strategies you want to know before you play. And contrary to popular believe the casino's did not write the "books". The casino loves for someone to sit down at the tables who have no idea what they are doing. Some of our high rollers even think we hire these players to make them lose money lol. If you are going to play blackjack though,and decide get a book, make sure you get one for multi-deck shoes. All Carnival casino's use 8 deck shoes for their blackjack and the strategy is different depending on the number of decks played with.

[zebra36]

If I can play for an hour on my $20 on the penny slots, I'm happy. :)

 

Thanks, everyone.

 

As long as you do not hit the max credits button by mistake (hate when that happens) you should be fine.

[MikeyP]

Why would you think they would ever share this information. :confused: Would you ask someone in a store..... "How much are you making off of me when I purchase this product ?" :confused: :confused:

 

My guess as to an answer for this is because, at least in the US, those things are regulated by gaming commissions and therefore have a minimum legal payout. The information of those laws are a matter of Freedom of Information.

 

edit: reading a later post I see that the gaming commission doesn't regulate payout, so take what I said with a grain of salt.