Does the library reek of last night's cigars?

[snoopysnake]

I see that the cigar aficionados get the library in the evenings (at least they do on Rhapsody.) I certainly will not be going there during cigar smoking time, but my question is, how does this impact the air/book quality during the daytime? Do the books reek of cigar smoke? If I go into the library "the morning after" will I smell second hand smoke residue? I am very sensitive especially to cigarette smoke. If I ride in a smoker's car when they are not smoking, my chest aches during and afterwards. (Riding while they are smoking is impossible - all this is thanks to living with my cigarette junkie mother until my mid-30's...she finally quit 3 years before dying of lung cancer. Soapbox speech - if you smoke, please quit and not put your family and other loved ones through the agony of watching you die from lung cancer - not to mention how your smoke may be wrecking their health! Please!)

 

Anyway, if anyone can answer this question, especially those sensitive to smoke, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

[lady_cruiser]

I thought all Royal Caribbean's ships would only have smoking on the balconies, decks, lounges and casino. Seems to me that the library is a public area that would not allow smokers, even in the evening. Is the information you were given, official correct?

[lady_cruiser]

I'm back. Here is the policy from the RCL Website so maybe you are right. But I would imagine with people's allergies that the ship would use a room deodorizer to rid all smell before the non-smokers start using it (library).

Onboard Policies

 

Q: What is the Smoking Policy onboard?A: Effective January 2008, smoking is only permitted in designated areas and outdoors on the Starboard side of the ship (contact the Guest Relations Desk for details). Smoking is not permitted in any dining venue, theater, hallway or corridor. Smoking is not permitted inside any stateroom, however, it is permitted on private outdoor balconies of balcony staterooms. A $250 penalty will be applied to the SeaPass for guests found smoking in staterooms. Cigarettes, cigars and pipe tobacco must be properly disposed of and never thrown overboard. A guest must be at least 18 years of age to purchase, possess or use tobacco onboard.

 

The new policy will go into effect aboard 18 of 21 ships initially, with Legend of the Seas, Rhapsody of the Seas and Splendour of the Seas following suit with the 2008 summer season.

[wrp96]

While they had the Cigar Afficienados (can't spell) listed for the library I never saw anybody in there. But that would probably vary depending on who is cruising with you.

[Gonzo70]

I do recall on Royal Caribbean holding a cigar club type event in the libary on my prior cruises. I don't know if this changed with the new policy or if they are still doing it. I did not spend a lot of time in the library, but when I popped in there was not an overwhelming smell of stale smoke.

[English Teacher]

No trace of smoke in Explorer's library (or the books) 2/3/08. Our cabin was just off the library, and never saw/smelled smoke at all.

 

Lou-Ann

[TEXASMUNK]

Yes, it is used in the evenings for cigar buffs.

[Cruising89143]

They also use to allow cigars after a certain time up in the Viking Crown on the Sovereign. Seems like it was after 9:00 PM.

[It'sRC4ME]

No trace of smoke in Explorer's library (or the books) 2/3/08. Our cabin was just off the library, and never saw/smelled smoke at all.

 

Lou-Ann

 

On Explorer there is a separate cigar lounge.

 

If it's true that they use the Library for cigars after dinner on Rhapsody, I wouldn't worry about it. A lot of those libraries have glass doors that close over the books when there is no librarian (to prevent pilferage), and the seating is generally leather or leatherlike. That leaves only the carpet to absorb smoke smells, which can be cleaned pretty easily over night. A quick wipe down of the rest of the room (furniture, hard surfaces) with a cleaning solution, and it should not smell of smoke.

 

Just is case, maybe bring you own book with you, so you're not dependant on the Library.

[geojobes]

The Cigar Lounge on Grandeur is the library & a previous poster was right that the books are encased in glass cabinets at night. You would never know the next morning that anyone smoked cigars in there. I don't know what they do, but not a whiff of smoke comes out. My cabin was really close to the library & we smelled nothing. Of course, when I came out of the library after smoking a cigar, the whole world knew it, but that's a different story.

[jerin]

I've never noticed any smoke residue in the library in the morning, and I'm pretty sensitive to it as well (had to move in a fast food restaurant yesterday because of the residue on the lady who came in and sat behind me). They must have a great filtration system in there, and cleaning in general on most ships I've been on is meticulous and constant.

[PhoenixCruiser]

Yes, I'm sure it does :rolleyes:

 

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[gary2835]

When last on the Rhapsody, they had a large air filtering machine sitting in the library. When cigars were smoked, they always had it running. Although the oder was noticeable while they were smoking, the next morning, you couldn't tell.

[Aquahound]

No trace of smoke in Explorer's library (or the books) 2/3/08. Our cabin was just off the library, and never saw/smelled smoke at all.

 

All Voyager/Freedom class have a separate aficionado lounge.

[beachchick]

I recall that on Radiance they allowed cigars in the Library for set hours in the evening. We never smelled residual the next day.

 

(Partly OT). Let me tell you a story about cigars on the V-class ships. When we were on Mariner with my sister and BIL, my BIL just had to have a Cuban cigar. Neither he nor my sister smoke cigarettes or anything else in their "regular" lives. He has maybe four cigars a year with guy friends over a good glass of port. Well, my sister decided that she too had to have a baby size Cuban cigar. So, my DH and I joined them in the Connoisseur's Club for after dinner drinks. My DH and I both quit smoking 2 decades ago, and my DH now has asthma. We don't spend a whole lot of time in the casinos or anywhere else where it's smoky. I have to say that the ventilation system in the cigar lounge is incredible! Not only did my DH not have problems, but the smoke was quickly filtered out of the air. Our clothes barely smelled smoky at all, even though there were many folks smoking. I really wish that they would install filtration systems that good in the casinos and other areas with "smoking sections" because smoke can't read signs and will happily drift over to the non-smoking sections. If they'd retrofit that amazing filtration system, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that we'd hear much less complaining about smoking onboard. Of course, smoking should never be allowed in the passageways, atrium, dining venues, or theaters. (As an FYI, the cigar lounge had a port menu that was amazing. My BIL ordered an extremely expensive port and offered me a taste; it was incredible--and I'm not even much of a port fan. I don't know if those high-end ports and brandies are available in other places on the ship.)

 

beachchick

[snoopysnake]

Thank you all. Yes, they did have Cigar Aficinado time listed for the library every evening. As it turned out, my DH and never even got to the library because we were so busy with our shore excursions, admiring scenery, taking photos (lots and lots of photos!) bathing in the solarium, eating, seeing shows, etc. So, I can't give you my ultra-sensitive nose's report of how the library smells in the daytime.

[HurricaneSally]

Thank you all. Yes, they did have Cigar Aficinado time listed for the library every evening. As it turned out, my DH and never even got to the library because we were so busy with our shore excursions, admiring scenery, taking photos (lots and lots of photos!) bathing in the solarium, eating, seeing shows, etc. So, I can't give you my ultra-sensitive nose's report of how the library smells in the daytime.

 

 

Thank goodness :rolleyes:

[jobob]

Rhapsody used the Library as the Cigar lounge in the evenings. There was an attendant selling cigars and liquor. She brought chocolate dipped strawberries (free) to go with our cognac. My DH tried several different cigars over the 7 days of the cruise. I don't remember the smell lingering the next day in the room. The balcony door was open during the evening, maybe that helped suck out the cigar smell.

[DON M.]

I see that the cigar aficionados get the library in the evenings (at least they do on Rhapsody.) I certainly will not be going there during cigar smoking time, but my question is, how does this impact the air/book quality during the daytime? Do the books reek of cigar smoke? If I go into the library "the morning after" will I smell second hand smoke residue? I am very sensitive especially to cigarette smoke. If I ride in a smoker's car when they are not smoking, my chest aches during and afterwards. (Riding while they are smoking is impossible - all this is thanks to living with my cigarette junkie mother until my mid-30's...she finally quit 3 years before dying of lung cancer. Soapbox speech - if you smoke, please quit and not put your family and other loved ones through the agony of watching you die from lung cancer - not to mention how your smoke may be wrecking their health! Please!)

 

Anyway, if anyone can answer this question, especially those sensitive to smoke, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

Did the "soap box" have to be included in your question? My father, a life long smoker, died at 92, the doctor concluded he might have lived 5 more years if he did't smoke. So, wants your point?

[snoopysnake]

Did the "soap box" have to be included in your question? My father, a life long smoker, died at 92, the doctor concluded he might have lived 5 more years if he did't smoke. So, wants your point?

 

My point is that smoking hurts people, and other people, in more ways than one. My mother's smoking hurt her health first hand and mine second hand. My father and other relatives and I also were hurt by watching her suffer through lung cancer, as opposed to what might have been a more peaceful and dignified end of life for her, if she hadn't smoked. I can speak my side of this issue from actual experience. That is what I meant.

[JDMac]

They also use to allow cigars after a certain time up in the Viking Crown on the Sovereign. Seems like it was after 9:00 PM.

As of a week ago, the Viking Crown is the only cigar-friendly enclosed area on Sovereign and I don't recall there being an after 9 stipulation (saw quite a few cigars in the open-deck, starboard smoking areas on 7, 11, and 12, though). Not sure if one could get away with smoking a stogie in the smoking area in Voltage or Casino Royale on Sovereign.

[DON M.]

My point is that smoking hurts people, and other people, in more ways than one. My mother's smoking hurt her health first hand and mine second hand. My father and other relatives and I also were hurt by watching her suffer through lung cancer, as opposed to what might have been a more peaceful and dignified end of life for her, if she hadn't smoked. I can speak my side of this issue from actual experience. That is what I meant.

Iam sorry about your mother, but there are many risk factors for lung cancer as this article points out.

http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Editorials/Vol-1/e1-4.htm

Alot of recent studies have concluded there are "killer cells" in the body causing lung cancer. The "experts' say 25,000 lung cancer deaths per year are caused by Radon Gas. I wont even get into "second hand" smoke. As my doctor says smoking "adds to the risks", so I will try and reduce all the other risks until the day I can quit.

[billylen]

I have noticed on several cruises that they use a filtration system like the ionic breeze system. It is running all the time. I have passed the library during the smoking period and could smell the smoke, but when I would go the next day (I read a lot) you either could not tell or it was barely noticible. (Usually you could not tell.)

 

Hope this helps

[DON M.]

I have noticed on several cruises that they use a filtration system like the ionic breeze system. It is running all the time. I have passed the library during the smoking period and could smell the smoke, but when I would go the next day (I read a lot) you either could not tell or it was barely noticible. (Usually you could not tell.)

 

Hope this helps

I dont think the OP was really looking for an answer, just wanted to give smoking opinions.

[billylen]

Possibly right, but I chose to asnwer the question for those (tncluding the OP) who may be interested... ;)