leanrunnerboy Posted April 29, 2009 #26 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I'd yell out..'If you board..you'll instantly turn into passengers & put on 100 lbs..!' That should scare them off..:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted April 29, 2009 #27 Share Posted April 29, 2009 How about equiping all balcony cabins with a gun locker that contains a couple of M16s and boxes of ammo...I would have no problem shooting at those Somalis if they try to climb up on my balcony...hate to say it but I would rather shoot them than be held hostage by them in that God forsaken place called Somalia...those people are savages...I rememebr what they did to our soldiers when their helicopter went down over there...I applaud MSC for carrying a Israeli security force with weapons and think all ships should do the same!That is just what we need, a bunch of untrained drunken idiots with high powered weapons. The best thing for the passengers to do is let the trained staff do their job and just stay out of the way. So far the cruise ship crews have shown that they know how to handle these situations - so let them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthomas13 Posted April 29, 2009 #28 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I may be old, but I'm not dead yet and I'd rather go down fighting than to die hiding. I'll just get my cane loaded with ammo before I board and when they think they're walking by a kindly old lady....pow! No ammo? I'll just use my motorized wheelchair to run them over. I'd do something, though. I can throw deck chairs as good as any other granny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopPop3 Posted April 29, 2009 #29 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Jack would know what to do! And he wouldn't mess around about it. However, if no Jack, I'm pretty sure some passengers (read men) would take it upon themselves to try to resist......kind of like what happened on Flight 93 in PA. Americans don't like being pushed around......we tend to push back. Come to think of it, that may be why a lot of the rest of the world doesn't much care for us.......until they need us! My 2-cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDinWA Posted April 29, 2009 #30 Share Posted April 29, 2009 The headline calls him "Cruise Ship Hero" -- "Wyn Rowlands was celebrating his 62nd birthday with a dream cruise onboard the MSC Melody near the Seychelle Islands when he spotted armed pirates in a speedboat trying to clamber on to the vessel. Quick-thinking Wyn, a retired engineer from Bangor-on-Dee, picked up a deck-chair and flung it down at the gang before raising the alarm. The ship’s captain, Ciro Pinto, was then able to out-manoeuvre the pirates to prevent them boarding the cruise ship." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Fontaine Posted April 29, 2009 #31 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I am female but I am not a "frady cat": We live in ''the real Maine": Rural Maine(ers).. hunt,fish,snomobile,hike, camp and protect our own and what we own: We generally use common sense though: ( I don't see myself cruising in those waters:) If I counted correctly we are on cruise number 10: Hawaii, Pacific (Mexico coast) and many Caribbean excursions: Missing the boat on our Pacific cruise.. took us inland to Guadalajara and across the mountains to Acapulco: This was during a time of an up rising in Mexico City: We saw guns and "big guns" and unfriendly army soldiers everywhere. Even the complex in Acapulco where we stayed for two nights (waiting for our ship to catch up) was surrounded by armed guards; with jeep like vehicles having mounted "big mean looking" guns: To state this plainly;I will not put myself in that situation again either: Mainland Mexico is off limits to me: That being said... I would fight bare handed, kicking, biting, scratching or whatever to keep from being captured: I have no fear of dying: my family is grown.... I'm 65 plus... I love my country.... but don't tread on me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisenouvelle Posted April 29, 2009 #32 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Jack would know what to do! And he wouldn't mess around about it. However, if no Jack, I'm pretty sure some passengers (read men) would take it upon themselves to try to resist......kind of like what happened on Flight 93 in PA. Americans don't like being pushed around......we tend to push back. Come to think of it, that may be why a lot of the rest of the world doesn't much care for us.......until they need us! My 2-cents. Hey ! Not just the men would resist! There's strength in numbers, you know. Call me foolhardy or stupid or whatever you want, but I really think I would try to resist as best I could - throwing a chair, fighting, whatever it takes. Sure, it's safer to go along - but isn't there a point when you say "Enough"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserbryce Posted April 30, 2009 #33 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I think I would try to get involved...but it is too bad that ships are not armed in a more effective way to thwart attacks like the recent ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted April 30, 2009 #34 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I think I would try to get involved...but it is too bad that ships are not armed in a more effective way to thwart attacks like the recent onesThe "recent one" seemed fairly well armed to me. What else do you want the cruise lines to do? Mount a five inch gun on the observation deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susique333 Posted April 30, 2009 #35 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I think Id invoke the right of PARLAY! No, seriously, can you imagine 3000 sunburned cruisers rushing them? Those pirates would poo their britches. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOHSgunny Posted April 30, 2009 #36 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I think Id invoke the right of PARLAY! :p LMAO!!!!! best answer by far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin4Real Posted April 30, 2009 #37 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I'd grab them by their buccan-eers and throw them off, arghhh :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmer Climes Posted April 30, 2009 #38 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I believe there were Israeli trained security on board the MSC Melody. They had guns and there were over 200 shots fired. It started with the Pirates shooting out a dining room window and the security team responded very quickly. Now MSC has to answer why they had armed security aboard. It seems they should have used Sound to divert the pirates. I know if I'd been on that ship I would rather see well trained Israeli security with weapons respond than to watch a team of waiters and deck hands try to hold the pirates off with a noise machine. No disrespect for the waiters and deck hands, but in this situation , show me a former Israeli commando with a gun any day. That's interesting. When the pirates took the captain of the Maersk Alabama I said to DH that the cargo ships should hire Israeli security because they don't seem very interested in taking thugs somewhere for trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyhazy Posted April 30, 2009 #39 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I think I would likely stay in my cabin out of the way... and away from the window. The owners of the cruise ship were correct in arming their crew. I hope that at the upcoming conference... the cruise lines and all shipping lines in general will agree to have a well armed (heavy weapons) security force on board ALL ships. These pirates are scum and should be treated as such. Blow their ships out of the water and let them swim to shore. When the returns are less than the investment these scum bags will stop their attacks. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjsea Posted April 30, 2009 #40 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Order two cocktails and lock myself in my room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G'ma Posted April 30, 2009 #41 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Stopping the payment of ransom ain't going to happen - the international maritime community is in a bind and can't risk an exodus of labour from developing countries should hostages start to be murdered. The only viable solution is to stop the piracy at source in Somalia but that is a huge undertaking and involves a 'bigger picture' approach than photo ops with gunboats on the high seas. Well, we all know the "why" of it...at least partially. Somalia is an outlaw country....always has been and always will be. It wouldn't matter anyway. Thugs and terrorists exist in all countries inspite of the economic or political conditions. Frankly, if the international community would coordinate their efforts and take piracy seriously, they could stop it or cut it way down. The problem is and always will be money. There are several ways to put a stop to this nonsense.....all of which cost money...a lot. So, instead of investing in prevention, these shipping companies play "craps" and bet that their own ships won't fall to these morons. It's cheaper to pay a ransom in the unlikely event one of their ships get taken than to make a serious effort towards prevention. Seaborn Spirit repelled a pirate attack using the latest technology a couple of years ago. This technology is readily available, is effective and nonlethal. It's also very expensive....so, there it is. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted April 30, 2009 #42 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I for one would support using the cheaper old fashioned lethal technology of bullets against those terrorist pirate thugs...those pirates can only be good human beings and citizens of the world when they are dead and buried. Look at that pirate they brought to New York City for trial...every photo I saw of him...well he was smiling and having a good time and I am helping to pay for it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted April 30, 2009 #43 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Here is a link to how the sound device (LRAD) works. http://science.howstuffworks.com/lrad.htm/printable The units cost between $20,000 and $30,000 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiselife4me Posted April 30, 2009 #44 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I'd say "What arrrrrrre ye doing?" Just like Captain Barbosa & Jack Sparrow. But for real, I don't know. My first reaction is to run and hide but if they made me mad, look out. I'd probably fight somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted April 30, 2009 #45 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Order two cocktails and lock myself in my room.Are you going to open the door when room service knocks to deliver the two cocktails? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted April 30, 2009 #46 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I hope that at the upcoming conference... the cruise lines and all shipping lines in general will agree to have a well armed (heavy weapons) security force on board ALL ships. :mad:Heavy weapons? Perhaps a five inch gun on the observation deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiselife4me Posted April 30, 2009 #47 Share Posted April 30, 2009 emj - ahahahahah ow my sides. That's a classic. You just made my day! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyy Posted April 30, 2009 #48 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Kinda like collards, they could come get a mess of me..never much on running...don't hunt trouble but.....old special forces fart(vietnam)... don't plan to live forever...count me in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUUNNY Posted April 30, 2009 #49 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I probably listen to whatever instructions were given by the captain but if by chance I'm able to get help from other passengers to subdo any of the pirates, I would certainly consider it. Think about it a few guns and hundreds of passengers and crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michmike Posted May 1, 2009 #50 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I'd simply sing along with them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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