Drop the "the"!!!

[newtocc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CajunLiner:

Okay, I've never been on a cruise, but<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey, you can't say that, that's my line!

 

This ship 10/91

That ship 11/95

Whatever ship 12/98

here a ship 13/99

there a ship 14/00

everywhere

a

ship ship 15/05

 

<font size="3" color=red>Over 1 year</font> into my LMBO cruise

[JNLROSE]

Newt---You DON'T have a line!!!!

 

Rosie

 

E-mail me <a href="mailto:JNLROSE@AOL.COM">here</a href>

 

CELEBRITY MERCURY HERE I COME!!!

 

[TPKeller]

I have a guess at the cause of the problem.

 

I agree, it does sometimes seem unneeded to say "the Zenith". The first cruise ship I sailed was Century. That sounds better to me that to say my first cruise was on the Century.

 

But here's my guess. We're talking shorthand here... the actual names of these ships are not just Zenith or Century, but rather (in these cases I think) it is M.V. Century, and M.V. Zenith. Motor Vehicle.

 

It does make perfect sense to say I am sailing on the Motor Vehicle Century. "The" is the article for the noun "vehicle" and "Century" is just the adjective, although in this case a proper name.

 

Same applies to US Navy ships, USS Nimitz... I was stationed aboard the United States Ship Nimitz.

 

I dunno. I'm no linguist, but it sounds good to me!

 

Theron

 

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Explorer of the Seas 9/27/03 Western

Celebrity Century 9/28/02 Eastern (Thanks to Lili)

 

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[yanceycruiser]

Gee Danno,

 

You make such a big deal out of everything, however, I do hope you enjoy your upcoming cruise on 'THE ZENITH'. Do they have therapist in North Bay? Apparently not, or Danno would be cured of whatever ails him.

 

By the way Newt, another excellent post on use of the word THE.

 

Yanceycruiser

 

Dreamward 1/95

Norway 1/97

Grandeur of the Seas 1/99

Grand Princess 2/01

Carnival Pride 2/03

 

 

Until the Infinity on

August 22, 2004

 

[Rickster]

This fall I am sailing Celebrity's Zenith.

 

No "The"

 

No therapy needed.

[mango14217]

Ok The The The The century Zenith Mercury Galexy The The The

 

 

[raudacruise]

Theron,

 

Don't post after 10:00PM . MV is Motor Vessel (not Vehicle- it would get really wet) and normally refers to those that are diesel powered. There was a big thread on this on what the various initials stood for a while back (i.e. M ships and the GST sig).

 

George & MaryBeth

[TPKeller]

Ha ha ha, George I guess you are right... although 10 is not generally anywhere near my bedtime...

 

 

Theron

 

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Celebrity Century 9/28/02 Eastern (Thanks to Lili)

 

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[OB10913]

OK...nothing to do with cruising, but here is the "fingernails on the blackboard" one for me...MINES, as in "That's mines". Ah yes...as a HS teacher this really makes my hair stand on end.

[babylene]

Thank you all for my Saturday morning chuckle!

 

Folks, you must note that Danno lives in North Bay, Ontario. We don't really know what life is like in North Bay!!!!!!

 

Here in Montreal...we would say that we are going on Celebrity, but we would also say that we are going on The Zenith.

 

As in England, we go to university. (In the U.S., I think you send your kids to college)

 

As for funner...the first time I heard it, my kids were little and I just figured it was a mistake that little kids make. Now it seems to be part of the "new English".

 

When I was taught (oh,so many years ago!) if someone asked how I felt, I was to answer that I felt well, or not so well. Now it is good or not so good! When asked how I am...I now also answer "good, and you?"

 

I was a teacher in the 60's and even then, grammar was not any longer emphasized. When I was a student, it was mandatory.

 

Things change...go with the flow.

 

Relax, Danno. The snow will soon disappear! (We have fresh snow on the ground this morning)

 

Have a Happy Easter!

[denb]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by babylene:

Folks, you must note that Danno lives in North Bay, Ontario. We don't really know what life is like in North Bay!!!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Don't you mean The North Bay ????

[babylene]

Ten points...denb!

[derf5585]

Used before a proper name, as of a monument or ship: the Alamo; the Titanic; the Zenith.

from

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=the

 

used as a function word to indicate that a following noun or noun equivalent is a unique or a particular member of its class <the President> <the Zenith>

from

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=the&x=0&y=0

 

USS Chilton APA-38 1966-1968

USS Guam LPH-9 1968-1970

Pacific Princess Oct 21 2001 Bermuda

Golden Princess Dec 7 2002 "Eastern Caribbean"

Coral Princess Dec 9 2003 "Panama Canal"

 

Carnival Miracle 17 Oct 2004

 

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[smeyer418]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by denb:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by babylene:

Folks, you must note that Danno lives in North Bay, Ontario. We don't really know what life is like in North Bay!!!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Don't you mean _The_ North Bay ???? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

 

I have been to North Bay great fishing. Although I must tell you that the last part of the trip was on a DC3 (The civilian version of the C-47)

[derf5585]

smeyer418

 

The DC-3 Aviation Museum

from

http://www.centercomp.com/dc3/

 

The Douglas DC3 is, quite simply, the most important transport aircraft ever built.

from

http://www.oldprops.f9.co.uk/DC3.htm

 

USS Chilton APA-38 1966-1968

USS Guam LPH-9 1968-1970

Pacific Princess Oct 21 2001 Bermuda

Golden Princess Dec 7 2002 "Eastern Caribbean"

Coral Princess Dec 9 2003 "Panama Canal"

 

Carnival Miracle 17 Oct 2004

 

NOT UPDATED again 25 Feb www.geocities.com/fsbsdel

[Danno]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by smeyer418:

I have been to North Bay great fishing. Although I must tell you that the last part of the trip was on a DC3 (The civilian version of the C-47) [img]http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really...so you haven't been here in probably 20 years??? We are served by DASH-8 commuter aircraft, like thousands of communities all over North America.

Note to Babylene...you might want to take a look on a map. I think you may be NORTH of us!!

I may actually concede defeat on this, only because I believe the incorrect usage has become so commonplace that it has evolved into the correct usage...as I said to my wife, THE JILL, "you can't win them all" [img]http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img].

Dan

CenturyX1,GalaxyX2,HorizonX5,VolendamX1,

Zenith to Bermuda Oct/04
Century to E.Caribbean Feb/05

[derf5585]

Remember it's "Smokey Bear" Not "Smokey the Bear"
Also "Kermit the Frog" not "Kermit Frog"

Smokey Bear has been working for over 50 years
from
[url="http://www.smokeybear.com/"]http://www.smokeybear.com/[/url]

USS Chilton APA-38 1966-1968
USS Guam LPH-9 1968-1970
Pacific Princess Oct 21 2001 Bermuda
Golden Princess Dec 7 2002 "Eastern Caribbean"
Coral Princess Dec 9 2003 "Panama Canal"

Carnival Miracle 17 Oct 2004

NOT UPDATED again 25 Feb [url="http://www.geocities.com/fsbsdel"]www.geocities.com/fsbsdel[/url]

[joramrose]

One of my most memorable trips to Canada (from Oklahoma yet) was in (on?) a DC3.
And that was to (the?) Toronto!

and it was not in the Dark Ages.

love
joan

[noj]

I just wanted to say that The North Bay was the upper part of San Francisco bay where Humphrey and Chippie took their notable wrong way swims...

noj
Fair Princess - Aug '95
Sea Princess - Aug '99
Rhapsody of the Seas Apr 2001
Mercury - Feb 2003
Coral Princess May 2003

[derf5585]

noj

Yes but was it "Humphey the Whale" or "Humphey Whale"

Humpback whale goes free after swimming up the Sacramento River.
from
[url="http://www.cnnsf.com/newsvault/output/humphrey.html"]http://www.cnnsf.com/newsvault/output/humphrey.html[/url]

HUMPHREY THE LOST WHALE: A TRUE STORY
from
[url="http://www.canadian-learning.com/ReadingR/Humphrey.html"]http://www.canadian-learning.com/ReadingR/Humphrey.html[/url]

Has Humphrey returned to the San Francisco Bay?
from
[url="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/examiner/article.cgi?year=1997&month=09&day=24&article=NEWS2577.dtl"]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/examiner/article.cgi?year=1997&month=09&day=24&article=NEWS2577.dtl[/url]

USS Chilton APA-38 1966-1968
USS Guam LPH-9 1968-1970
Pacific Princess Oct 21 2001 Bermuda
Golden Princess Dec 7 2002 "Eastern Caribbean"
Coral Princess Dec 9 2003 "Panama Canal"

Carnival Miracle 17 Oct 2004

NOT UPDATED again 25 Feb [url="http://www.geocities.com/fsbsdel"]www.geocities.com/fsbsdel[/url]

[hajekfam]

Thanks Derf for the dictionary reference.
but the Merriam-Webster definition of "the" is better explained with explanation "h -- used as a function word before a proper name (as of a ship or a well-known building) <the Mayflower>"
I always use "the" before the name of ship when I say what ship I am sailing on.
I'm glad you showed that I wasn't incorrect.

Zenith-Western Caribbean-6/92
Zenith-Eastern Caribbean-6/93
Century-Maiden Voyage-12/95
Galaxy-Southern Caribbean-11/99
Mercury-Northbound Alaska-6/00
Millennium-Westbound Transatlantic-9/01
Horizon-Western Caribbean - Adults only cruise-11/02
Millennium-Westbound Transatlantic 10/26/03
Century - Western Caribbean 1/31/04

[smeyer418]

Hey Danno it was more than 20 years ago...does anyone ever say to you "book 'em Danno"? and while I have been on dash-8's, the last DC 3 I was on was between Palm Springs and LA. Actually I like the DC 3 as its bigger better insulated and faster...(with turbos)

Thank you def5585 [img]http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

[This message was edited by smeyer418 on 04-10-04 at 08:04 PM.]

[derf5585]

smeyer418

"Book 'em, Danno." James MacArthur still hears this line today
from
[url="http://search.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/07/22/f-p23s3.shtml"]http://search.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/07/22/f-p23s3.shtml[/url]

At the end of every show, Steve McGarrett would say 'Book 'em Danno. Murder one,
from
[url="http://www.seldomfed.com/danno/notes_articles2003-1.htm"]http://www.seldomfed.com/danno/notes_articles2003-1.htm[/url]

WELCOME TO THE HAWAII FIVE-O HOME PAGE!
from
[url="http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/"]http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/[/url]

McGarrett collaring the criminals and saying to Williams, "Book 'em, Danno!"
from
[url="http://www.th-record.com/1998/01/01-23-98/lordob.htm"]http://www.th-record.com/1998/01/01-23-98/lordob.htm[/url]

USS Chilton APA-38 1966-1968
USS Guam LPH-9 1968-1970
Pacific Princess Oct 21 2001 Bermuda
Golden Princess Dec 7 2002 "Eastern Caribbean"
Coral Princess Dec 9 2003 "Panama Canal"

Carnival Miracle 17 Oct 2004

NOT UPDATED again 25 Feb [url="http://www.geocities.com/fsbsdel"]www.geocities.com/fsbsdel[/url]

[asiadog]

boy some people can get testy on "the" job lol

[gardencat]

This whole thread is probably totally unimportant but it is fun and interesting.
I must confess that I am one of those who would say that I was on the Century. After reading this thread I realized that I would not say I am going to the Macy's (nor if I had more money the Bloomingdale's).
I was beginning to feel that I might have been guilty of abusing the English language [img]http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]
Then I stopped to think and realized that I would also say that I was going on the Orient Express not I'm going on Orient Express. Now I am totally confused. What is the underlying grammatical principal at work here?