**What Shape is the SUN in?**

[bdjam]

As mentioned earlier we wont take the Sun Princess again. Its old, shows its wear and tear, has problems with non-drinking water systems (grease), Norwalk is rampant, a foul stench towards the back of the ship on deck 8, problems in the dining room and so on. Then when you return home and write Princess detailing the conditions of the cruise you get no answer. One person's opinion take it for whatever its worth!

And I guess this is what I meant in my first response to the original poster. Given the ship is in the condition mentioned, and the fact it was in pristine condition when I was on board in March – no Norwalk (and we’ve already established that’s a passenger issue, not a ship issue), no grease in my toilet or shower, no foul stench at the back of the ship and no issues in the dining room. So, as I say, Princess must have stopped doing any maintenance on this ship. :confused:

[spongerob]

An opinion stated while grinding an axe has minimal credibility. I can't change the fact that your cruise didn't live up to expectations, but comments like "Norwalk running rampant" are uninformed and inflammatory - and minimize the validity of your other complaints. Norwalk is carried on by passengers and has, in my observation, been aggressively treated if it rears its ugly head. Every season has its Scrooge.

[swm54]

Call it whatever you wish. You obvioulsy have a positive opinion of the Sun Princess while I like to "tell it like it is". I do not apologize for being honest.

[ahracer]

 

Don't recall any news from CDC about a Norwalk outbreak recently on any ship let alone the Sun. Must not be too rampant.

 

Scott

[swm54]

Further no one is "grinding and axe" as you say. But when you spend between $6000 and $7000 for a 10-day cruise as we did you come to expect more than the Sun Princess has to offer.

[alans]

My wife and I disembarked on December 12 after having spent 10 days on the Sun. We had a thoroughly enjoyable cruise. I did not notice a lack of maintenance. In fact we ran into people doing scraping and painting many times. We prefer to concentrate on having a good time.

[DeRon]

Although this is going to make some people mad, I am taking your opinion SWM54. I am not going to take the Sun.

 

A stain here or there isn't the issue. But foul stenches, etc will keep me away.

[DeRon]

I think too many people say things like, "we prefer on concentrating on having a good time". Then why take Princess in the first place? Why not take the Viking Serenade like I did, and "concentrate on having a good time".

 

When we are on the ship, we always make the BEST of it! But deciding what ship to go on, we ask a lot of questions and put a LOT of thought into it.

[bdjam]

Call it whatever you wish. You obvioulsy have a positive opinion of the Sun Princess while I like to "tell it like it is". I do not apologize for being honest.

OK – that means I’m lying?

Although this is going to make some people mad, I am taking your opinion SWM54. I am not going to take the Sun.

 

A stain here or there isn't the issue. But foul stenches, etc will keep me away.

I think it unfortunate that you’re heeding a disgruntled passenger rather than the majority who have indicated here that Sun Princess is in fine shape, but it certainly doesn't make me mad. I think you're making a bad decision and you’re going to miss a fine vacation. I would suggest, however, that you pick another cruise line as Sun Princess is in no worse shape than the rest of the fleet. I guess they’ve all become rust buckets, huh? :rolleyes: I was on Grand Princess a month after you were - personally, I think both ships were in fine shape, but if we want to nit pick, Sun Princess in March 2004 was in better condition than Grand Princess in October 2002 - the rug in my cabin had a stain.

 

[ahracer]

Although this is going to make some people mad, I am taking your opinion SWM54. I am not going to take the Sun.

 

A stain here or there isn't the issue. But foul stenches, etc will keep me away.

 

Haven't you known all along that you weren't going to take the Sun? I really can't believe that SWM54 comments were the deciding factor for you.

 

By the way I haven't been on any ship that a some point there wasn't a sewage smell emanating from somewhere.

 

Scott

[ldoc31]

Just got off the Sun this morning. Our first Princess cruise--no stains, no bad smells, no Norwalk virus. The food was as good as we had on the Millenium and service was great.

[ahracer]

Just got off the Sun this morning. Our first Princess cruise--no stains, no bad smells, no Norwalk virus. The food was as good as we had on the Millenium and service was great.

 

Based on this thread and his other threads he is only looking for negative comments. No amount of positive comments are going to matter. So don't waste your time.

 

Scott

[coiran]

I have noticed on some past Sun Class ship cruises you get an odor in the aft on the Carib and Baja decks - It somehow emanates to here from the trash incinerators.

 

Ron

[coiran]

I do have a complaint about the Sun - we were on it in February - the closet door in our cabin had a loose/broken hinge - It took them a half hour to get someonr up to fix it - I thought that this was intolerable - it should have been fixed before we arrived!!!!

 

Ron

[bdjam]

I do have a complaint about the Sun - we were on it in February - the closet door in our cabin had a loose/broken hinge - It took them a half hour to get someonr up to fix it - I thought that this was intolerable - it should have been fixed before we arrived!!!!

Gosh, I must just have fantastic luck on this ship…I had a shower control that wouldn’t allow hot water to come in. Just warm. Told the steward in the morning, it was fixed by noon. Maybe I should have sent a letter to Princess to demand my money back?

[spongerob]

[quote name='coiran']I do have a complaint about the Sun - we were on it in February - the closet door in our cabin had a loose/broken hinge - It took them a half hour to get someonr up to fix it - I thought that this was intolerable - it should have been fixed before we arrived!!!!

Ron[/QUOTE]
So, you had a screw loose, but it's getting better now, right? :D

[DeRon]

[quote name='ahracer']

By the way I haven't been on any ship that a some point there wasn't a sewage smell emanating from somewhere.

Scott[/QUOTE]
REALLY?! I have never smelled a foul odor on any of my cruises. But then again, I do a lot of research before I go on one. ;)

[DeRon]

It amazes me how hostile people get when you ask a question about the condition of a freakin' ship!! omg! lol :rolleyes:

Guys, do not get upset. PLEASE. I love Princess cruises. Notice I have been on 2, and I have a marvelous time on both. And yes, I was considering sailing on the Sun, but her age and some of the the condition reports has made me seek something else. (The exact cruise in question, was the 10 day eastern caribbean.)

(what the heck are these boards for if you can't ask a question like "what is the condition of a ship"????):o

Thanks!

[Eddie4Paws]

Just got off December 12...The carpet in my cabin was new, all the furniture, etc. inside was in pristine condition. The tap water was fine to drink (no grease, no funny taste). The rest of the ship was beautiful. All the restaurants, bar areas, pools, casino, gym, disco/bars were in great condition. The crew was always cleaning, no dishes, dirty ashtrays, glasses, etc. to be found anywhee onboard. Not a single foreign object in any of the food/beverages. My only complaint was that the wooden deck chairs on the promenade deck (the only place on board with wooden deck chairs), were a little hard. But after a few days, my natural cushion got fluffier, and it wasn't a problem when I used them. :D Yes, there was an odor in the aft hallways, but it wasn't all the time and it wasn't insufferable. Ten days on-board and not a problem anywhere else. I would cruise the Sun again, in a heartbeat. However, preconceived ideas being what they are, and I guess it is nature to look for any problems. If you are expecting them, then by all means, cruise another ship where you will go with a positive mind and enjoy your vacation.

[ahracer]

[quote name='DeRon']It amazes me how hostile people get when you ask a question about the condition of a freakin' ship!! omg! lol :rolleyes:

Guys, do not get upset. PLEASE. I love Princess cruises. Notice I have been on 2, and I have a marvelous time on both. And yes, I was considering sailing on the Sun, but her age and some of the the condition reports has made me seek something else. (The exact cruise in question, was the 10 day eastern caribbean.)

(what the heck are these boards for if you can't ask a question like "what is the condition of a ship"????):o

Thanks![/QUOTE]

You asked the same question on the Celebrity board about the Century and you did the exact samething, you ignored the overwhelming positive responses and took the only negative comment and agreed with their assesment.

At 9:22am yesterday you posted on the Century thread that you were hearing the same thing about the Sun and were going to stick to newer ships. Yet you didn't post until last night on this thread that you were taking SWM's advice and not going to sail on the Sun. Clearly your mind was already made up but you wasted peoples time who answered your question seriously.

I don't know why you are surprised about getting a hard time from some of us, because you got a hard time on the Century thread for the samething. Nobody is going take you seriously when you ignore 10 or so positive reviews and then jump all over the lone negative review.

Happy Holidays
Scott

[ahracer]

[quote name='DeRon']REALLY?! I have never smelled a foul odor on any of my cruises. But then again, I do a lot of research before I go on one. ;)[/QUOTE]

Funny I've been on some of the same ships as you.

Scott

[spongerob]

DeRon, your question is a good one, it's just that different people have differing opinions as to what constitutes 'good shape'. You'll find comments about odors, stains, etc. on both brand new ships and older ships. Given the number of passengers any ship carries in a year, it's going to show signs of wear relatively quickly. I knocked over the flowers in our suite on the first cruise of Caribbean Princess, and it left a small stain. Wear and tear, 3 days into the service life.

Anyway, it's your call whether or not to sail a particular ship. I might suggest looking back at the previous posts of those who offer opinions to get a sense of how balanced their comments might be. If I'd believed some of the comments about Grand Princess the first time I booked her, we might not have gone. We're going back for a fourth cruise on that ship in just a few days. I think there's a lesson in that.

[geocruiser]

I just got off the Sun Wed, I was a beautiful ship, We had a great time.

Geo

[kryos]

[quote name='swm54']Further no one is "grinding and axe" as you say. But when you spend between $6000 and $7000 for a 10-day cruise as we did you come to expect more than the Sun Princess has to offer.[/QUOTE]
Thank God I've never spent that kind of money for a cruise. My cruise on the Sun next month is only costing me about $1,400 ... and I'm sailing single occupancy!

As for spots on carpets, etc. ... my feeling is that with all those passengers coming and going on the ship, there are bound to be spills and such. I'm amazed that many of these ships are in the great shape they are ... and that's a tribute to the crew that is constantly cleaning and polishing all day long.

I for one am looking forward to my cruise on the Sun next month and hope many of these horror stories I've heard about the Sun are not quite as bad as they sound.

Blue skies ...

--rita

[kryos]

[quote name='coiran']I do have a complaint about the Sun - we were on it in February - the closet door in our cabin had a loose/broken hinge - It took them a half hour to get someonr up to fix it - I thought that this was intolerable - it should have been fixed before we arrived!!!!
[/QUOTE]
I read another poster's comment about "odors" on this ship several months ago ... she smelled an odor in her cabin every now and then, but she wasn't really complaining about it. Seems her cabin must have been located in the area of the ship where the bakery is situated. She said every so often the aroma of freshly baked bread would waft into her cabin. Yummy! I should be so lucky. :)

Blue skies ...

--rita