buelah111 Posted March 26, 2009 #1 Share Posted March 26, 2009 My debt card PIN number begins with zero and I have read conflicting reports on whether this will cause a problem in Europe. It is from a credit union, but has the Visa logo, as well as the Plus and Credit Union 24 symbols. Should I have any concern with my ability to withdraw cash from ATMs in Europe (Spain, France, and Italy)? I would hate to count on my debit card to work just to get over there and realize my only option for cash is to get it from my credit card (with all those associated cash fees). Please reassure me (or let me know if I have a problem so I can plan accordingly)! Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sddsddean Posted March 26, 2009 #2 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Wouldn't be a problem in the UK, so I imagine it should be fine everywhere in Europe...can't see why it wouldn't work as long as its a 4 number PIN. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted March 26, 2009 #3 Share Posted March 26, 2009 My debit card pin begins with a 0 and I have not had any problem using it in cities in Spain, Portugal, France, Germany, Italy, Denmark, Turkey, Finland, & Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstcruise2009 Posted March 26, 2009 #4 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I also haven't had a problem in Spain, France, or Italy with having a pin number start with "0". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted March 26, 2009 #5 Share Posted March 26, 2009 The zero would not be an issue. However, those that only know their PINs in letters, should know the number translation since most European ATM keyboards only have numbers. We have also heard of some folks who had problems with PINs that were more than 4 numbers. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buelah111 Posted March 27, 2009 Author #6 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Thank you all for your reassurance! I have a four digit code and I definitely know the numbers, so it sounds like I'm good to go. I guess I'll stop worrying about this. Thanks! Stacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGuy25 Posted March 27, 2009 #7 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Our's also starts with a "0" and we had no problems in October! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcocktail Posted March 27, 2009 #8 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I hate to be the bearing of bad news, however I was in Italy, Turkey, Greece May 2008. I have to cards one is just an ATM card that the pin starts with a zero. The other card is a Visa debit that does not start with a zero. Using the same machine drawing from the same credit union both using Circus, the ATM card starting with zero did NOT work. I too had heard conflicting reports that when I preplanned an made sure that I had a visa debit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sea-explorer Posted March 27, 2009 #9 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I hate to be the bearing of bad news, however I was in Italy, Turkey, Greece May 2008. I have to cards one is just an ATM card that the pin starts with a zero. The other card is a Visa debit that does not start with a zero. Using the same machine drawing from the same credit union both using Circus, the ATM card starting with zero did NOT work. I too had heard conflicting reports that when I preplanned an made sure that I had a visa debit card. I suspect it was more the type of card being used rather than the fact the PIN began with a zero, which of course is perfectly acceptable. Some machines for example will not accept Amex as it is not common in Europe. You should be fine though with Visa and also in general with Mastercard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buelah111 Posted March 27, 2009 Author #10 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I hate to be the bearing of bad news, however I was in Italy, Turkey, Greece May 2008. I have to cards one is just an ATM card that the pin starts with a zero. The other card is a Visa debit that does not start with a zero. Using the same machine drawing from the same credit union both using Circus, the ATM card starting with zero did NOT work. I too had heard conflicting reports that when I preplanned an made sure that I had a visa debit card. So the card whose PIN started with zero was not the Visa card? My card has the Visa logo on it, even though it is a credit union card, so hopefully I won't have this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted March 27, 2009 #11 Share Posted March 27, 2009 So the card whose PIN started with zero was not the Visa card? My card has the Visa logo on it, even though it is a credit union card, so hopefully I won't have this problem. My card, while still a debit card, also has the VISA logo, and as I said, I had no problems......I was in Rome in December 2008, so fairly recent experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeysgal Posted March 27, 2009 #12 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I would have never thought to question this. This is why I love Cruise Critic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knuts1 Posted March 27, 2009 #13 Share Posted March 27, 2009 why not just change the pin number so there will be no question on if it will work or not?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbinsca Posted March 27, 2009 #14 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The 4 digit PIN is a must, many banks don't process for more than 4. The machines DO NOT have letters on all keyboards. But I love the United States' ADA laws that state that drive through ATM's need to have Braille lettering. Cirrus is the system that covers ATM machines- VISA or not VISA is not the issue. The PLUS system is another major player in that field. I am not sure, but I think CIRRUS is contolled by MasterCard, and that may have been the issue with a VISA card. We recommend to customers that they don't start with zero, but most machines will accept a zero starting digit Banks may charge you as their customer for withdrawing at another bank's machines, as well as the other bank charging you. This can get REALLY expensive so you may want to do it less frequently than you would use your card at home. In other words, $200 at a time, not $20 at a time. Using the VISA debit card for purchases can get you some pretty decent exchange rates, especially compared to using the airport kiosks...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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