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  1. Everyone should read the Great Barrington Declaration. The declaration is worth a read. Gives great scientific insight as to the state of COVID lockdowns and repercussions by Harvard, Stanford and Oxford in addition to 25,000 medical professionals and scientists. Hopefully, we can get back our traveling lives! https://gbdeclaration.org/
  2. Everyone should read the Great Barrington Declaration. The entire declaration is worth a read. Gives great scientific insight as to the state of COVID lockdowns and repercussions by Harvard, Stanford and Oxford in addition to 25,000 medical professionals and scientists. Hopefully, we can get back our traveling lives! https://gbdeclaration.org/
  3. This may not be relevant to O but I ran into my neighbor out walking yesterday. He is a high level exec for DCL. He said they are starting up full force Dec 1. I questioned him a bit and he said they have been executing the Dec start plan for awhile and will be ready to go. Maybe there is hope!
  4. These vaccines are RNA vaccines. There is no live component in the vaccine!! The risk of being exposed to COVID by getting the vaccine is zero. It is so important that people understand this. The antibody response in nearly 100% of the volunteers is strong enough to prevent COVID. Over 100,000 people have participated in the three US trials with overwhelming positive results. It is so frustrating when people falsely state that there is a risk of exposure to COVID from the vaccine. Science has long evolved beyond live virus vaccines. Also, most vaccines are better than 95% ef
  5. Yes, upon approval by the FDA, all participants that received the placebo had to agree to immediately receive the vaccine. This way there is no risk of participants seeking out vaccines from other companies and continuing with the study as we are followed for two years.
  6. Also, between the US and the UK about 150,000 people have participated in COVID vaccine trials. Exactly zero people have died. Exactly zero people have had long term side effects. A handful, less than 5 people, have required hospitalization, most when in phase 1 trials when the dosages were being calculated and high dosages were administered. Zero out of 150,000 plus people have died or had significant side effects from the vaccine. In that same period of time, over 100,000 people have died from COVID with another several hundred thousand being hospitalized. Which is causing mo
  7. This is absolutely false information. I am in the Pfizer study in Orlando. Our vaccine study phase 3 with 45,600 people, is well documented as is Moderna, phase 3, plus J&J, just completed phase 2, all near 100% effective at producing antibodies well above what is required to ward off COVID. It produces viral loads similar to Shingrex or small pox, nothing like the flu which is comparing apples to broccoli. Covid is a stable virus with a small number of variants of similar structure, all can easily be covered by a vaccine. The flu has thousands of strains. I received the v
  8. Wow, the algorithm here struck my reference to the drug viag***. If feel like a child who tried to say a dirty word!
  9. Wow, that’s some serious research. I must be the only person here who has a full time job. FYI, our placebo is “simple saline” NaCl 0.9%. Volunteers were not given hypotonic saline which is a much more concentrated saline solution. We did ask that question and were told that the placebo could not be altered from simple saline. Symptoms are fairly unmistakeable. It’s not like a muscle or tendon hurts from the injection and the substance. It is fine for the first 10 hours or so them progressively gets worse over the next few days. That‘s exactly what happens when a
  10. Excellent, thanks! If we can’t cruise, we can plan to cruise!
  11. The placebo is saline. If you get the vaccine, several hours after getting the injection, your arm begins to ache similar to a tetanus shot and it lasts for a few days. We all asked the injector if they could put something in the placebo to mimic the sore arm viral response. We were told absolutely not as the release we signed was for either the vaccine or simple saline solution. I had “tetanus shot arm ache” for several days with both the initial injection and the booster. It’s fairly unmistakable.
  12. How many cases are irrelevant. How may deaths per capita shows us the true measure of danger. My niece has COVID right now and she is bored to tears, can’t smell but otherwise feels fine. My step daughter had it in May, she cleaned her house from top to bottom during her quarantine. Neither was very sick. Florida’s death rate is dropping which is great for such an elderly population. It’s lower than New York, Illinois, California, Michigan..... most all other large population states and we are living pretty normally here.
  13. And yes, I am in the Pfizer study. I’ve has the vaccine and the booster.
  14. I’m certain MSC and TUI are both sailing as they have been reporting live, leaving passengers in port who don’t comply with rules etc. I’m not sure who else is sailing as I don’t sail any of those lines. I’m sure someone here know which ships are operating???? I think the Grandiosa and Magnifica. I have no idea what the TUI ships are named. I didn’t realize that I have prepare briefs for my posts. I retired from the courtroom several years ago.
  15. Here in FL where many of the cruises originate, the state has been open for business since late May. We peaked in late July/early August and our death rate is at 66 per 100,000, the same or less than many states that are still completely locked down. We also have one of the oldest populations in the country. There is no rhyme or reason to the number of per capita deaths in various states (our only certain statistic) I have been flying throughout the entire pandemic. In March, flights were empty, my flights to and from Orlando have been full for the past two months and restaurants a
  16. It’s getting to be October. Has anyone heard rumblings regarding Europe 2022 other than the few in March and April that have been showing for the past several months.
  17. Cases are going up and deaths are going down. Sounds like great news to me. The number of cases is irrelevant, the percentage of fatalities is critical. A vaccine is right around the corner..... This one , according to CNN (J&J) is 99% effective after phase 1 and 2 trials. Pfizer trials are complete, Moderna has two weeks left and data is being analyzed in both. J&J is a month or two behind. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/25/us/johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-strong-immune-response/index.html
  18. The shore excursions restrictions hopefully will be short term at best. CNN is reporting that another vaccine ( J&J) data is showing 99% effectiveness after phase 1 and 2. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/25/us/johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-strong-immune-response/index.html Also for Orv, we were told at the Pfizer trial that the study will be unblinded ASAP and the participants that had the placebo will be vaccinated immediately upon approval. The reasoning is that they do not want anyone in the study to go get the vaccine somewhere else as that defeats the tw
  19. I have a great but rather impractical idea.... Restaurants are open in FL. Maybe O can dock one of the O ships with Red Ginger in Port Canaveral and open for lunch and dinner. Then we can just order the watermelon duck salad! (for those of you who take everything seriously, yes, I realize this is impossible but still a nice thought!!)
  20. mRNA is very complicated. Here is a Cambridge article that tries to break it down simply. 1000 years ago, I studied biochem. Today I own a Physics based AI company so I understand it fairly well but still doubt that I could explain it. This should help. https://www.phgfoundation.org/briefing/rna-vaccines
  21. I am in the Orlando Pfizer COVID vaccine study and have received both the vaccine and the booster 4 weeks later. I travel every week for business and have a new grandson. In addition, I have two disabled adult children, one with health issues, so having immunity as soon as possible was worth the risk of participating in the trial. This is my experience and information I have been given. The vaccine’s predominate side effect is a very sore arm, worse than a tetanus shot but not as bad as Shingrex. The booster causes a bit more soreness than the first vaccine
  22. It is a great buy. Last year I had about $1000 in onboard credit from being a shareholder. I sold in the $50’s at a nice profit when news of the virus was rumored to affect cruising and bought back around $9. I did the same with RCL. NCLH, RCL and APPL will pay for all my travels next year plus provide some nice OBC. It’s well worth it! Although, APPL seems to get it all the profits back as there is always some Apple gadget that we (DH) just has to get. RCL changes their policy to provide OBC with all sailings regardless of promotions. NCLH does the same.
  23. I’m with Dan, near forward elevator is the best on the ship. Too far forward (many PH3’s) and the spotlight and cameras from the bridge block the view. Right around 1018, the spray from the hull wake keeps the balcony wet when ever the ship is moving if the seas are at all rough. Hope this helps!
  24. Well, I booked the sailing and then last night I bought my airline tickets. Today, all the sailings were cancelled! Looks like it’s back to 2022 for Antarctica. Prices are double for the same itinerary though as all the new expedition ships hit the market. Darn!!! Oceania looks like a bargain!
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