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  1. We just joined the waiting for refund group. It has been a little more than 3 days and I just visited the NCL website and can't find where my cruise next certificates have been returned. Does anyone have any idea where to look on the website to follow up and make sure CNC's have been returned? We are expecting a long wait on the money we put on the credit card but for the time being we would feel better about things if we could verify CNC's had been returned. They told me they would be put back on our account within 48 hours.
  2. This latest development was the last straw for us. We had our first ever Haven cruise booked for the first part of December and were very much looking forward to it. We made a $1500 deposit, $500 with cruise next certs and $1000 on credit card. We were told CNC's would be put back on our account within 48 hours and the $1000 would take up to 90 days to be put back on credit card. With most of the health experts all but guaranteeing a second COVID wave this fall, and many prospective cruisers not willing to wear masks, and no definitive answer from the cruise industry to what would happen if one or both of us contacted the virus some time during our cruise, or what would happen if a significant outbreak occurred on our sailing similar to what happened on the Celebrity ships, there is just too much uncertainty for us to cruise at this time. I think there is still a good chance we will get our deposit back and if all of the issues get resolved no doubt we will be ready to cruise again. Unfortunately, it's looking more and more like best case scenario will be some time next spring. Good luck to those that are hanging in there with booked cruises coming up. And good luck to NCL. We have really enjoyed the many cruises we have taken with them over the years.
  3. We have a cruise on the Breakaway out of NOLA in December. I think that if the cruise industry is going to survive without BK they will resume cruising by then. All of the reputable statistical models on Covid19 I have seen show the virus peaking in the US between mid April and first part of May and eventually running its course sometime between first part of June and mid July depending on where you live. Between now and then cruise lines are going to have to figure out how to keep enough competent employees around, rehire entertainers, and reassure enough of the public that it is safe to cruise again. I think they are going to have to take small steps initially with maybe just 3 or 4 ships sailing to start with. There will also be major safeguards in place to insure the proper health of crew and passengers. I would not be surprised if sometime this fall we see a few cruises here and there embarking out of and visiting ports where there is almost 100% certainty that the virus is not a factor. Between now and then the cruise industry has a monumental task ahead. If everything goes perfectly and there are no second waves of Covid19 we may see a third of the cruises that we normally see by this time next year but due to supply and demand for the foreseeable future taking a cruise will be more expensive. The cruise lines simply can't stay around unless they can figure out a way to do it and still make money.
  4. Unfortunately if it is determined you have COVID19 you go from pampered Haven / first class treatment to isolation / quarantined treatment. That is the reality we are all now faced with each time we decide to take a cruise until this virus runs its course.
  5. No problem. I just hope that as a country we can get through this so that we can all get back to enjoying life without this cloud hanging over us.
  6. I think you are off on your decimal points by a couple of places. Assuming 300,000,000 US population ( actually 328 million ) and 20% require hospitalization and ICU that is 60,000,000 people.
  7. The 2.9 million mentioned assumes we have a severe outbreak. They did not say what the probability of a severe versus a moderate versus a mild outbreak would be, I guess all we can hope for at this point is a mild outbreak and a gradual tapering off.
  8. Forgot to mention that during this CNN Coronavirus special report they referred to cruise ships as floating hot zones.
  9. I watched the CNN 2 hour special last night on coronavirus. One thing they talked quite a bit about was testing. Once testing becomes more readily available who pays for testing? How much per test? The scenario they are expecting is not a pretty picture. If we end up with a moderate or severe outcome from this, medical experts are expecting 38 million people in our country needing medical care, anywhere from 1 million to 9.6 million requiring hospitalization, and from 200,000 to 2.9 million needing ICU.
  10. Can't help but think at least part of the beating that the cruise industry and the stock market in general is taking is due to overreaction and media driven panic. You never know. There have literally been hundreds of books and movies released over the years where some sort of virus comes along and takes civilization to the brink.
  11. Thank you for the well wishes. Good luck to you as well. As long as you are not short selling the stock. I think the majority of us on this board for a variety of different reasons would like to see this stock move higher.
  12. If you have been following my posts within this thread instead of looking at just one sentence within one post you can see where I am in no rush to buy more shares. I have been investing in the stock market for over 30 years and during this time I have learned what type of effect fear has on the stock market. I have learned from others such as Warren Buffett that the time to buy is when others are fearful. Is the stock going lower than $28? I have no idea as I do not own a crystal ball but I can tell you that the odds of it going back over $50 a share are far greater than it going to zero.
  13. I am tempted to buy in to average down on my initial 100 shares. However I would also like to wait and see what goes on over the weekend when the ceos from the cruise companies meet with our fearless leaders in Wahington. Sure does not seem like it can go much lower than $28 unless government gets involved and puts some serious constraints on the cruise industry. The virus itself sure seems like a mutated strand of the flu which we both do not know enough about yet and we do not and will not have a vaccine for for at least a year.
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