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  1. Actually people are infectious about two days before the first symptoms appear. But still, that does mean many people contract the virus from others who have no idea they have it. Like I said previously, taking temps is doing too little too late. That being said, it is highly irresponsible to try to get over on the temp test by taking a fever reducer. Unless one has a covid test, how on earth can they be sure their elevated temp is not due to covid. Do people really think you are entitled to risk other people catching it from them just because they don't want to miss out on their precious cruise.
  2. Scroll up to my previous post # 28. These experiences do not cause human body temperatures to change.
  3. Just because one feels hot does not mean their temperature has gone up. Think about it. A common symptom of fever is chills, not feeling warm. Hot flashes do not raise your temperature. Hot weather, standing in line in the sun, walking, exercise, etc., does not raise your temperature to over 100, unless you have heat stroke. If our temperature regulation was that fickle we would be reptiles, not humans. If your temp is over 100, there is generally a medical reason for that. It could be a mild infection that you don't even realize your body is fighting, or something worse. Unfortunately fever with Covid-19 is not something everyone gets and when they do, its usually after they have been spreading the virus, since people are infectious for about two days before any symptoms appear. So while the temp checks may catch some infections, its really too late to do a whole heck of a lot. It's kinda like taking your shoes off at the airport ; (
  4. This virus is not at all related to the influenza viruses. That chart means absolutely nothing with regards to this virus. The flu is not caused by a corona virus. Saying a covid vaccine is impossible due to the flu vaccine's results is like saying the measles vaccine is impossible due to the flu vaccine's results. Polio and Smallpox have been wiped out due to a vaccine.
  5. Since antibody tests just prove exposure to the virus, and at this point (and probably for the foreseeable future) there is absolutely no way to prove immunity, unless the virus disappears or there is a vaccination, everyone will be needing to keep social distancing and wearing face coverings.
  6. Sorry, I hit save before finishing and was unable to edit my post. First off, if you continued following the info on the CDC change (NOT REVERSAL) in organizing their page, you would know it was not at all a reversal on touching things being a possible, albeit not usual, way to get covid-19. The headlines about this originally made it seem like the CDC was now giving new info about objects. In fact they just reorganized their page, and the info about how touching objects can lead to getting the virus but is not the most common way to get it is still there. New articles, and the CDC themselves have been quite clear that nothing has changed regarding the warning about touching objects and then touching the face, mouth, nose, eyes being a possible way to get Covid 19. Another thing to bear in mind is the study you cite only followed ONE asymptomatic person. On average, a person with covid 19 infects 2 to 3 others (when nothing preventative is being done like wearing masks, staying away from others, etc.) Although this study doesn't say it, it appears as if the person in the study was some sort of hospital worker based on all the hospital staff and patients that were followed. Odds are the person being followed may have been wearing a mask for many of the contacts since they were in a healthcare setting. Bottom line is that this study of only one person did not find the usual 2 to 3 infections which really does not say much about whether asymptomatic people are spreading the disease. All the cases of community spread and the numbers of cases that continue to grow when so many people are testing positive and being asymptomatic speak more loudly that asymptomatic spread is real. Bottom line, the fact remains that people who get covid 19 are asymptomatic for about two days before they become symptomatic. So regardless of whether people test positive and stay asymptomatic or not, everyone who is going to eventually test positive has the protentional to be infecting others during the days before they become symptomatic, and therefore, everyone needs to realize they are a potential carrier and behave accordingly.
  7. First off, if you continued following the info on the CDC CHANGE in organizing their page, you would know it was not at all a reversal on touching things being a possible, albeit not usual, way to get covid-19. The headlines about this originally made it seem like the CDC was now giving new info about objects. In fact they just reorganized their page, and the info about how touching objects can lead to getting the virus but is not the most common way to get it is still there. New articles, and the CDC themselves have been
  8. Besides the fact that in many areas it still is not easy to get a test, it doesn't make a lot of sense to get a test if you have not been exposed. That's because a negative test just says that at the moment in time it was taken, you were not infected. Unless one is willing and able to get daily tests, random testing is not what is going to stop the spread. The way to stop the spread from asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic cases (you are contagious for about two days before symptoms appear) is for everyone to assume they are an asymptomatic person and behave accordingly.
  9. Waitstaff and room stewards in haven are included in the tip or service charge...whatever you want to call it...pool. Concierge and butler are not.
  10. The Haven Restaurant staff does get their portions of the "service charge." It is only the butlers and concierge that are not included in that pool.
  11. This is what was in the letter: The safety and security of our guests and crew are at all times our first priority. Guests who traveled on the March 1, 2020 and March 8, 2020 voyages of Norwegian Bliss received a letter sharing information per the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) regarding a two-year-old who traveled aboard the vessel on the March 1, 2020 voyage who tested positive for COVID-19. At this time, we are not aware of other similar cases from these voyages. However, in an abundance of caution, the CDC asked that we make guests of the two mentioned voyages aware. This is all the information we have to share at this time.
  12. There is no way for the Manhattan cruise terminal to charge you more upon exit. Like others have said, at that facility you pre-pay. There is no gate blocking your exit. Unless they are walking through the lot checking license numbers, making unauthorized charges on credit cards or building a structure to stop exit, they are not charging you more, simply because there is nothing in place to do so.
  13. Oh...that's just for our convenience lol. As usual ncl is choosing making money over making sense.
  14. The lack of immunity to the common cold is due to the virus mutating so frequently. That's also why there is no immunization against it. It's impossible to make an immunization that would cover all forms and future mutations. The reason flu shots work (or don't) is because they are able to get an idea of which types are likely to show in the upcoming season. Seasons it isn't as effective are ones they predicted wrong.
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