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kirtihk

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  1. I understand your concept and a way of thinking in general. The only actual matter (regardless of what anyone thinks about it) is everyone is (or at least might be by researching the ship algorithm on the internet or in a brochure) aware of the Edge class ships' design ahead of time (prior to booking and most specifically prior to boarding); so, it is not something taken away (all of a sudden) from any person during cruising. So, if one doesn't like the design if thinking of booking non-Retreat category cabin, it's better to book a cruise on non-Edge class Celebrity ship or a different cruise line altogether where this concept doesn't exist.
  2. It's strange: a. there are a lot of people booked (or had) Retreat who complain about it for multiple reasons (not good enough overall, price, not the best food), and b. there many "non-Retreat" individuals who complain about Retreat ones (part of which are complainers from part a.). As result, not many happy cruisers left on both sides of this "elite" vs "ordinary" discussion.
  3. Don’t bother please to explain. I figured it’s not possible. Besides, we do not need to convince anyone. I said 5-7 times within last 3 days - everything is relative. Not comparable doesn’t mean luxury cruise lines are better in every single aspect. It means all parts of their product in each category (that an individual tries to compare) are different in a sense of delivery of what is considered as an achievement of a perfect vacation. When delivery occurs, one experiences feelings of joy, education, accomplishment, satisfaction, relaxation, …. We are all different, and combination of individual personalities, expectations, education (yes, education, too), and their feelings produces a variety of out coming conclusions. As result, some would prefer to stick with Celebrity (and similar cruise limits) and their level of production of items they are important and critical to fulfill one’s vacation time.
  4. People compare pricing. The rest is truly not comparable.
  5. There is a wrong concept regarding Tegent “free” air. It was never free. Yes, it was included, but the price was adjusted up front to include an air price. After they “excluded” air price I saw for cruise sailing (existing prior to the change) the base price was reduced by the air price. The Regent, however, increased the air price at the same time, but that is a different topic.
  6. On our multiple cruises no one was comparing prices they paid (or bragging in any way), and I talk a lot around small (and not so small) ships.
  7. Oh, a river cruise. My note was regarding ocean cruises. On our last Seabourn Pursuit expedition cruise (with included 7/24 black caviar) chef’s dinner was for a large fee and even more with wine paring.
  8. I’ve never heard of free (non-promotional) chef’s dinner on any cruise line even for 1 time during a cruise.
  9. People who cruised on other 2 Celebrity classes state that they feel "robbed" (segregated) by Celebrity for not being able to enjoy the front open area deck and inside area with front ocean view area of the ship. They don't discuss paying more or less for a cabin and restaurants.
  10. And unlimited Champagne/-Bellini breakfast morning 8 to 10.
  11. Also, it seems Retreat pricing is doubled in general within last 1.5 years (100% or so increase vs the claimed (please don’t ask me “claimed by who?”) 2% average increase (inflation) for everything in the country). This observation is based on the current Retreat pricing for the 12-day March 3, 2025 cruise on Millennium (Singapore to Tokyo) vs Retreat pricing of the same cruise at the time I booked it in April 2023 (I booked Aqua but remember Retreat price at that time).
  12. It's math: $330 x 48 = $15,840 (actually it was $16,000 - I just rounded per day to $330 instead of writing $333.33). Anyhow, I'm not forcing anyone to book anything.
  13. Well, for the 3rd time, everything is relative: 48-day March 14, 2026, Silversea Down cruise (3 combined in one booking legs of their 2026 World cruise) was $330 pp per day (without air) at a time of booking which is way less than practically any Retreat (and most likely even Aqua) booking. So ...
  14. Hmmm. It was just an example. Tomorrow, perhaps, a Japan cruise might have a reduced price.
  15. But again, there are much less expensive itineraries (as in my post # 162 example).
  16. This price doesn't include air (economy air is additional $1,700 pp). Next to this booking there is 15-day Tokyo to Singapore for $9,000 (would be $6,000 readjusted for 10-day). Again, it's all relative.
  17. I keep saying it since I started cruising in 1999. When there is no mater to feel bad about, there is also no additional unnecessary negative thoughts and discussions like here.
  18. Nowhere. Like history, it repeats itself forever, and humanity doesn't learn from it. On a bright side, there are always multiple options to choose from on any cruise line as long as one enjoys cruising in general. Voyage, Voyage!
  19. 3 "enjoy"s There is nothing to enjoy about $42 corkage fee (or any amount charge for that matter), life or death ... Enjoy your Voyage: Desireless - Voyage, voyage (1987) Life is Life Voyage, Voyage
  20. At this point of our communication (on multiple occasions), I actually expected an invitation from you to test what is all this fuss about private yachting and such. Or, … perhaps, at least, see you on December 1 (on Regent Voyager from Cape Town to Dubai). By the way, I wonder why starting yesterday, I don’t get an email notification from Cruise Critic anymore regarding people replying to my posts.
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