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  1. I believe the idea is, if all unvaccinated folks are limited to RCL excursions and later someone on the excursion tests positive the folks in port can track down the driver/tour guide and test or quarantine them. If the unvaccinated folks are wandering around the town or are on independent tours RCL has no idea who they came in contact with, so they can’t do any contract tracing. RCL’s biggest profits come from being able to return to these ports, rather than be banned due to spreading the virus.
  2. It might be pretty simple. Vaccinated people have different colored room cards/wrist bands. All public areas of the ship you need to wear a mask, but the cruise line would change some number of venues, in line with the number of vaccinated guests and safety protocols, to be vaccinated only. You want to eat at the buffet, show your wristband. Want to lounge at the vaccinated (adult) pool without a mask, show your wristband. Want to enter the comedy club/show on a vaccinated night so you don’t need to wear a mask, show your wrist band.
  3. I’d guess the special wristbands would be for those who are fully vaccinated, and proud to show it to anyone.
  4. We booked our first ocean cruise for summer 2020. When it was cancelled rather than getting a refund we asked to be rebooked on the same cruise a year later. Now that cruise is cancelled and they said they will only get us a voucher that cannot be refunded for 2 more years. does this sound right?
  5. I would guess you would have needed to be vaccinated at least two weeks before your cruise. When the doctors talk about those fully vaccinated they always mention two weeks after receiving the last shot.
  6. I’ve ended up sick on vacation twice in the last 10 years. Both times I was thankful I was in a room I was comfortable to spend some time in. When cruising that is my criteria. Pick a room I’d be happy to spend the entire cruise in. Just in case.
  7. I’m guessing commercial flights. If it’s not safe enough to fly commercial it’s not safe enough to sail. These ships are too big to be able to get enough passengers for a revenue positive sailing without any of the passengers flying to the embarkation.
  8. That would be a great suggestion, that when someone is infected everyone onboard would be tested. But that did not happen on any of the ships that docked in the US, either California or Florida. For the Grand Princess the Vice President and the cruise line said they would all be tested before leaving quarantine, but that did not happen.
  9. The change in transportation rules did throw them for a loop, but there are a few things they could have done. They could communicate. They could send twice daily updates of what passengers left and how many healthy passengers are waiting for planes, just so people still on board know they are not alone. They could explain the ambulances, if there are ill passengers or crew it would be nice to hear from the captain rather than find out on the internet. If there are really only 287 left on board they could set the front desk with help to call every party and make sure
  10. Self isolation, as suggested by our local health services, is having 14 days of provisions dropped off outside the door, and having those in isolation disinfect the package of supplies, and cook and clean for themselves for 14 days. No outside interaction. Reading exhibit B from Holland America in their package to the port commission there were 14 sick people taken to hospitals; 10 passengers from the Zaandam, 3 from the Rotterdam, one crew unspecified which ship. There were an additional 13 passengers on each ship showing symptoms for a total of 26 passengers. Those passengers
  11. Even if those people have quarantined in their cabin for 14 days, if any of the people who made their food, plated their food, delivered their food, folded the extra sheets and towels, etc became infected from being around infected crew or picking up dishes or linens from infected cabins then everyone’s 14 days needs to start over. When the Hal ships docked there were 13 passengers on the well ship, the Rotterdam, that were sick. Another 3 passengers from the Rotterdam were taken in ambulances to hospitals in Florida. Again, that’s the non-sick ship. Hal said 50 crew in addition to
  12. We have learned a few things during this crises that have less to do specifically with Covid19 and more to do with the way the cruise industry is able to deal with virulent diseases. 1) the crew is not immune Though it is probable a crew member originally caught the corona virus, and in the past a norovirus, from a passenger, it is clear to me once the crew is possibly infected there is no plan in place to ensure they won’t infect others. Crew quarters are close, and there is not a system set up to quarantine possibly infected crew. From my perspective, it looks like
  13. Not over for the Rotterdam either. According to exhibit B, as of April 1st there were 10 passengers on the Zaandam and 3 on the Rotterdam that needed on shore medical treatment. In addition, there were 13 passengers on each of the ships showing symptoms for a total of 26. There was one crew member needing shoreside medical attention and another 50 showing symptoms. It did not say which ship the affected crew were on.
  14. Considering the four south Florida Counties have more Coronavirus cases than all of Georgia your brother is much less likely to catch the Coronavirus in Atlanta than in FLL.
  15. They must have triaged. Broward health is close. Hialeah is 25 miles away. Are they by chance helicoptering them?
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