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  1. My opinion is that cruising won't start before Labor Day, probably because I have one booked for Labor Day weekend, so Murphy's Law will prevent that from happening LOL! All kidding aside, nobody knows. I for one feel like July has about a 5% chance from somewhere in the US (not FL, that is a 0% chance). August around a 20% chance, Sept about a 50%, Oct about 75%, and Nov about 80% chance. All my personal opinions, nothing more.
  2. Yes but do keep in mind it will take time for the 12-15 to be "fully" vaccinated (5 weeks minimum from the date of first shot). Don't expect the July cruises to have that many fully vaccinated 12-15 year olds. Unless every person with a cruise booked in July rushes to get their kid the shot in the next few weeks.
  3. I have no idea, but to me it's a "kick the can" response. The only way they would ever care if you falsified it is if they have an outbreak on the ship. They said if 1.5% get sick and test positive, the whole cruise ends. So say 30 people on the ship get sick, everyone is confined to quarters, the sailing "ends". There has to be some post-mortem required by the CDC at that point anyway, seems logical to think this becomes a part of that process. Go thru records of everyone on ship. I never said it was a perfect system or concept, just one that gets them sailing with the least poss
  4. Cruise line's are NOT going to want to get into the business of validating that kind of info. Before Covid, when you went to board the ship you filled out a medical form that you attested you had no flu or stomach symptoms in the last 72hr or something like that. If while on the ship, you got sick, they sent notes to your stateroom, and in some cases confined you to quarters depending on how sick you were. Covid Vaccine certification is IMO going to be closer (not the same but closer) to that process. Maybe they give you the ability to upload or show at the dock your CD
  5. At the risk of this delving too much into the politics of it, Politics stopped being about conservative or democratic values. It's all about posturing, political theater, and fear. Say and do whatever you need to to get elected, not what is core to your principles. With regard to how this all affects NCL (the topic of this thread), many have pointed out that the CEO has said July is out. Part of that is due to the CDC, part of it is due to the time it takes to crew up, and part of that is due to the politics in FL. At this time (and unless any lawsuits change things) the CDC rules
  6. And just like that, the Horizon is now also gone from Carnivals website for July. The only ships that still show bookable for July are Breeze and Vista from Galveston. Seems pretty likely Carnival is hedging their bets that Texas is friendlier to cruises in the short term.
  7. LOL...I'm having the same conversation right now over in the Royal forum Yes Texas banned the passports, but Abbott's is still just an EO, not a law. Also, he didn't explicitly say that his order applied to cruise ships the way that FL did. He is playing the situation much cooler. Texas still has the ability to say "we ban Covid passports" and also admit that their ban doesn't have the jurisdiction to apply to cruise ships. also, Abbott's order still says "businesses that receive public funds from the state" can't ask for vaccine proof. I don't think the cruise lines f
  8. Not just Royal. Carnival has also basically said the only ships that have a hope of starting in July are Breeze and Vista from Galveston, and Horizon from Miami. I'd bet that the Texas port skips test cruises and sails with vaccines. Horizon will go the other route and do a test cruise. Sure seems that they cruise lines are putting more of their eggs in Texas than FL for now. Can you imagine Galveston becoming the #1 cruise port in the world?
  9. Yes, but that lawsuit is all about getting cruising started earlier. The bans will have the opposite effect. 2 separate issues. Abbott's order still says "businesses that receive public funds from the state" can't ask for vaccine proof. I don't think the cruise lines fall into that category.
  10. Not 100% sure about that. Yes Texas banned the passports, but Abbott's is still just an EO, not a law. Also, he didn't explicitly say that his order applied to cruise ships the way that FL did. He is playing the situation much cooler. Texas still has the ability to say "we ban Covid passports" and also admit that their ban doesn't have the jurisdiction to apply to cruise ships.
  11. Desantis doesn't view it as painting himself into a corner. In his head, with his back against the wall, the only place he has to go is UP. He wants to run for president one day. Everything he does needs to be viewed thru that lens. This may temporarily hurt FL business, but it gives his so much in the way of spinning this with talking points about standing up to the overreach of the Biden Administration (aka CDC). In 3 years when he is running for president, I am SURE the topic of CDC and Cruises will come up in many speeches and debates. This is his plan. And it may work for him. But it does
  12. He wants to run for president one day. That is his upside. As long as he is coming across to his base as defending rights, even in the face of economic ruin, he can spin that message. Short term he may want cruising in FL again for the economic win, but even if they all leave, he is betting that it doesn't impact his chances in FL all that much and it gives him more prominence nationwide for standing up to the overreach of the Biden administration (aka CDC)
  13. Someone's going to need to break the stalemate. Either the governor backs down first and tells cruises they can proceed (not likely) or the cruise industry just moved forward anyway and invites the state to sue them. Until someone blinks, no cruising is happening in FL. The longer this staring content happens, the more ships will move out of FL and the economic impact will be more long term.
  14. While I don't condone that, I will admit it is the only way for cruises to start quickly, meet all CDC vaccination guidelines, and not get sued. Ah, gotta love the corrupt US political system.
  15. Honestly, he is going to do whatever he thinks helps him the most politically. If the lines push forward with requiring vaccines, he is going to have to decide if his political career is helped more by suing the cruise lines, or by legally letting it go but just keeping the story alive in the court of public opinion.
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