the penguins

Betting and knowing are different. Clearly you don't have any proof. We have cruised 4 times since August 2021 under various Covid restrictions/protocols and have seen no evidence of anything being hidden. On each cruise all crew have been routinely tested every week. Different protocols have been introduced if and when Covid numbers rose.

Interestingly the actions to reduce Covid particularly changing the buffet from self service to being served has practically eliminated Norovirus. Hopefully this is one change that will become permanent.

X even refused that on our May Silhouette sailing. Claimed they paid 1 fixed amount to dock in 3 ports in Finland with no reduction if a port was missed. Also in the UK/Europe it is illegal to charge port fees etc separately i.e. any cost that is not optional must be included in the basic price. This applies to all consumer pricing (not business to business) and hence VAT is included in prices unlike in the US where the Sales Tax is added separately.

I asked about this on Silhouette in May and was told yes on any cruise departing after 2 June that has "cruise only" pricing which is practically every cruise. Not applicable to Aqua and above.

We are regulars on the Transatlantic and just love the sea days. So many choices you will be wanting extra days to fit everything in.

I thought this was a Royal thread and Covid. Not NCL and norovirus. I have no experience of NCL and Noro is totally different.

What lies? Proof please.

Celebrity on any that has over 3% testing positive eg Silhouette

When we decided to start cruising with 5 x B2B bought our 100 shares. My experience to date is: Shares cost: 2200 OBC: 4800 Dividends: 1300 Good or bad I don't know but we like the OBC and invest it wisely in the casino.

And Celebrity, great idea

They had the Senior Officers event on Silhouette May this year.

Great headline but in practice pretty worthless as the majority of countries still require the tests.

Forget Royal you could well be refused boarding at the airport on your way out of the UK.

Also remember that UK passports are now subject to the same rules as every other country i.e the passport will be valid for 10 years from date of issue the "lost" months will not be added to the total.

Crew to passenger ratio varies depending on the number of passengers. We sailed b2b on Silhouette in May. Cruise 1 - 2400 pax, cruise 2 - 1100 pax crew numbers remained the same. On our second cruise there were more crew than passengers The cruise after ours was 2400 and then back to 1100. Larger tables usually take longer our table of 6 always took between 90 and 120 minutes don't blame the staff they serve as quickly as we eat but the socialising is part of the experience. Choose the table size you like and enjoy. We are both in our mid 70's and both had Covid in March.

Choice is always good: X in a big bus, various Small Group operators - for us both have the same disadvantages in that we have no control over the itinerary, pace or stops. Or, our choice, ToursbyLocals. We deal direct with the guide, personalise the route, stop for coffee and cakes, split the cost with one other couple (sometimes 2 other couples) from the Roll Call, pay via the "lovely ladies" in Canada and get a full refund if the ship fails to dock. We have used TBL in Japan, China, South America, USA, Europe and never had a bad guide.

We had one on Silhouette in May - well we would have done but it was cancelled due to the weather. Also had one for Aqua only on the same cruise.

Always restricted to Elite and above. Sometimes there has been a separate event for other CC levels.

8 to 10 is the usual time

Thanks. Your description and the pics have confirmed our worst fears. Cannot imagine relaxing in that "box" for 10 minutes let alone the hours we spend on a traditional balcony. Is it a deal breaker - for us yes. Interestingly the other cruise line (Viking) that has extensive experience of this type of cabin on its river ships chose not to have them on its Ocean going ones. I wonder why?

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Exactly the point I was making whereas the original post (alex_drew) claimed that by shutting the inner doors the Aircon stayed on.

If you are there overnight book a 1 day car rental and drive it yourself. To quote the helpful lady at the rental office who also put all the sites into the satnav in order ", the clue is in the title. Whenever you have a choice of direction turn right it's a circle so turning left is wrong". Picked up the car at 10 am, dropped it off at around 6.0 pm (keys through letterbox) and taxi back to ship. Great day, easy driving and no problems.

If it's the same as when they introduced the current system as " the fastest at sea" it will come with a huge price tag.

Surely the Aircon switch is connected to the window dropping not the inner folding doors i.e. as soon as the window drops the Aircon goes off? Yours is the first post I have seen that says you can close the inner doors and still have space to sit between the inner doors and the dropping window or have I misread your post? Anyone have a picture of anyone doing that? Thanks