Gold Coast Cruisers Posted March 18, 2011 #1 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Just received the latest itineraries for all of the 2012-2013 season. Why do Princess think that the only place to cruise from Brisbane is......... New Zealand and throw in a couple of island cruises? Surely they could have introduced something new. What do you think of their itineraries for 2012 and 2013 in general? Jilly:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandielle Posted March 18, 2011 #2 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Just received the latest itineraries for all of the 2012-2013 season. Why do Princess think that the only place to cruise from Brisbane is......... New Zealand and throw in a couple of island cruises? Surely they could have introduced something new. What do you think of their itineraries for 2012 and 2013 in general? Jilly:) I agree with you Jilly! It's the same with P&O Brisbane sailings. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Coast Cruisers Posted March 18, 2011 Author #3 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I agree with you Jilly! It's the same with P&O Brisbane sailings. :rolleyes: Yes it is. I really wish they would put a little more effort into these itineraries in our region. I think P & O and Princess think we're sheep and they'll heard us on and off these ships out of Brisbane to the same places year after year for our 'dose' of cruising.:rolleyes: Logistically it can't be that difficult to create new and interesting itineraries from Brisbane? Jilly:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripen Posted March 19, 2011 #4 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Just received the latest itineraries for all of the 2012-2013 season. Why do Princess think that the only place to cruise from Brisbane is......... New Zealand and throw in a couple of island cruises? Surely they could have introduced something new. What do you think of their itineraries for 2012 and 2013 in general? Jilly:) I was suprised that princess would nearly copy the P&O itinraries from Brisbane esp the fiji cruises. I was expecting more detailed fiji cruises like 4-5 fiji ports or something further a field to tahiti or hawaii and return like from sydney. I was really looking forward to some great desinations when sun princess was comfirmed for brisbane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenterfield Travellers Posted March 22, 2011 #5 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I was suprised that princess would nearly copy the P&O itinraries from Brisbane esp the fiji cruises. I was expecting more detailed fiji cruises like 4-5 fiji ports or something further a field to tahiti or hawaii and return like from sydney. I was really looking forward to some great desinations when sun princess was comfirmed for brisbane. We believe Princess is trying to encourage more Northern Hemisphere passengers down to the Pacific cruises, hence the New Zealand and island itineraries. Our Sun Princess cruise out of Sydney in 2007 had a group of 30+ Mexicans as well as the usual US and Canadian passengers. The Dawn Princess world cruise out of Sydney last year had a broad range of nationalities, and obviously went to different ports. We picked up the final segment from LA to Sydney, and visited other ports in the Pacific that we wouldn't normally get to see on the Australian based cruises. There was a wide range of nationalities on the last segment as the US based ships rarely sail through the south eastern part of the Pacific or New Zealand. That said, we've decided to change cruise lines for our next trip and while it's back to the same old South West Pacific islands, it beats sitting in an overpriced resort in Oz. Remember, a bad day at sea still beats a good day ashore! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandielle Posted March 22, 2011 #6 Share Posted March 22, 2011 That said, we've decided to change cruise lines for our next trip and while it's back to the same old South West Pacific islands, it beats sitting in an overpriced resort in Oz. Remember, a bad day at sea still beats a good day ashore! :) Definitely! I think many of us feel this way. In fact my DH doesn't care at all about the ports - he goes for 'life at sea' experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Coast Cruisers Posted March 24, 2011 Author #7 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I trust some of these 'off topic' posts have been deleted. This topic is about Princess Cruises 2012 - 2013 itineraries. Jilly:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Walt Posted March 25, 2011 #8 Share Posted March 25, 2011 This thread has been moved to the new Australia & New Zealand Cruisers forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Doble Posted March 25, 2011 #9 Share Posted March 25, 2011 HI I was a little dissapointed with the new itineraries. We love Princess cruises but just came back from our 2nd NZ cruise and are not ready to cruise NZ again. We were hoping for maybe a 17 night south pacific that went to Samoa. Tania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkmw Posted March 26, 2011 #10 Share Posted March 26, 2011 we're the same, nothing against our kiwi friends but we would rather go some where else....been to NZ so many times now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted March 26, 2011 #11 Share Posted March 26, 2011 We believe Princess is trying to encourage more Northern Hemisphere passengers down to the Pacific cruises, hence the New Zealand and island itineraries. Our Sun Princess cruise out of Sydney in 2007 had a group of 30+ Mexicans as well as the usual US and Canadian passengers. The Dawn Princess world cruise out of Sydney last year had a broad range of nationalities, and obviously went to different ports. We picked up the final segment from LA to Sydney, and visited other ports in the Pacific that we wouldn't normally get to see on the Australian based cruises. There was a wide range of nationalities on the last segment as the US based ships rarely sail through the south eastern part of the Pacific or New Zealand. I agree the itineraries are for the overseas cruising market, being their winter season. In addition, many Australians have been on land holidays in NZ, as it is perfect for driving holidays, with its short distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuldalai Posted March 28, 2011 #12 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Princess Australia certainly lack imagination in developing new itineraries, its just more of the same year after year . Also for Southerners in Victoria and Tasmania Princess timing is hopeless . When do we want to go to the warm South Pacific Islands and Queensland in the Winter months of June and July - so when do Princess schedule these cruises in the Summer when it is far too hot in the Islands and Northern Australia. For example in the Winter months SUN or DAWN should be sailing ex Melbourne via Sydney to Northern Queensland / South Pacific return to Melbourne via Brisbane then repeat . Not rocket science , but Princess ignore the biggest market ex Melbourne, holidays to the warmer Northern climes of Australia and South Pacific. More imagination needed like Round trip cruises ex Singapore with Vessel 1 touching Australia at Darwin and Cairns, with Vessel 2 doing an Australian Circumnavigation calling at Darwin and Cairns at the same time as Vessel 1 allowing Interchange of pax , through travel options and back to back cruises . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Coast Cruisers Posted March 28, 2011 Author #13 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I like the itineraries from Australia to the Hawaiian islands and return. Wonder why they don't do one to the Tahitian islands and return from Australia over our Winter months? In the latest Princess Atlas there is a picture of the main foyer etc, can anyone tell me which ship this is? It's on page 6 and 7? Jilly:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted March 29, 2011 #14 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I like the itineraries from Australia to the Hawaiian islands and return. Wonder why they don't do one to the Tahitian islands and return from Australia over our Winter months? It's solid sailing - would probably be a three week minimum which means less popular, and they make less money from them as there are fewer ports. If the market grew enough it could become an option, but it's a bit too far for a mainstream round trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted March 30, 2011 #15 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Kudalai Excellent idea about meeting another ship in a port and changing ships. We are interested in an "Around Australia" cruise but disembarkation is not allowed in Adelaide as it is no longer a segment. It is stupid to call into Adelaide on the last leg and not being allowed to get off at our home port. We can go ashore and even go home before getting back on the ship to sail on to Melbourne but we are not allowed to finish the cruise in Adelaide. More imagination, flexibility and initiative from the cruise companies would attract more customers. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted March 30, 2011 #16 Share Posted March 30, 2011 John This possibly has more to do with Australian Customs than with the ship. Can you see that you would have to clear customs in Adelaide (if you were allowed to disembark there). No Customs - not disembarkation. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted March 30, 2011 #17 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I am not at all familiar with Australian laws that might impact this. However, in the US, none of the major cruies lines can pick up passengers in one US port and drop them in another without calling on a distant foriegn port in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted March 30, 2011 #18 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Paul That is uniquely American. See Section 27, (also known as the Jones Act) of The Merchant Marine Act of 1920 . This Section 27 requires that all goods transported by water between U.S. ports be carried in U.S.-flag ships, constructed in the United States, owned by U.S. citizens, and crewed by U.S. citizens and U.S. permanent residents More details here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920 Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuldalai Posted April 2, 2011 #19 Share Posted April 2, 2011 That is archaic thinking these days and when NCL was running Round Trip cruises out of Hawaii with an International crew they had to make a call at some non-descript island outside US Territory in International waters just to satisfy this ridiculous requirement . The US as champions of free enterprise should do away with this Jones provision . No such restrictions apply in Australia, New Zealand or Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted April 2, 2011 #20 Share Posted April 2, 2011 The US are also strong on protection of local industry and labour, which is what this relates to (not that they're the only ones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Coast Cruisers Posted April 2, 2011 Author #21 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Yes I agree the Jones Act is so archaic. Has anyone else had to embark their ship in Ensenada because of this act. What chaos it was as we trundled our way from San Diego over the border into Mexico to meet the ship. The check-in is completed at a hotel kilometres away from the port so another bus is required from their to the port. Finally as we wait at the port we watch our ship gracefully cruise into port - from San Diego where we had seen it leave. Then we wait and wait until the tide is high enough so as we can access the gangway onto this ship without having to crawl on board. Yes it should be scrapped or amended to suit moden day requirements. The Jones Act was passed in 1920. Jilly:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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