Balcony Smoking

[craftykitty]

In Ontario, you can't smoke in any publically owned outdoor space either. That lets most areas out, as it covers sidewalks, etc. And the municipalities have specially hired Smoking Police (or at least that's what we call them, they are actually by-law enforcement officers).

[Cigar Dude]

In Ontario, you can't smoke in any publically owned outdoor space either. That lets most areas out, as it covers sidewalks, etc. And the municipalities have specially hired Smoking Police (or at least that's what we call them, they are actually by-law enforcement officers).

 

That's just nuts! Outdoors, for goodness sake!

[BRT1948]

Nope, I'll be honest, not me. I smoke too, and it's allowed on the balcony. I will not give up my habitual problem on my paid for balcony for anybody. I'm sorry for those who freak out at such a thing, but it is what it is. Get over it. Or if it's going to bother you that much, save yourself the grief and book an inside. BTW, I will not smoke inside my stateroom.

 

I agree! I'm a ex-smoker, and haven't smoked in 7 years, but I can tell you now, if I still smoked and I paid for a balcony room and smoking was permitted on all balconies, I would smoke and enjoy every last puff. If you are going to book a cruise on a ship that allows smoking on the balconies, don't start whinning because the people next door smoke on the balcony. Those people paid for their balcony rooms also and most likely got a balcony room so they could walk outside and smoke without having to get dressed and go find a smoking area to smoke one cigarette. Chances are, even if they did that, they will run into someone who rolls their eyes at them when they pass by.I promised myself when I quit smoking I would never turn into one of those people who act like if they get just one little wiff of smoke they are going to fall over dead with cancer. If you are that scared of getting sick from a small wiff of smoke, then if were you, I would be trying to find me a ship that does not allow smoking on balconies..

[BKJK]

Didnt know they had ships that didnt allow smoking of some sort...

[PA Dutchman]

No blood flowing the this thread yet. ??:D Carnival policy is smoking on a balcony, don't matter what is done in another country, state, car or local bar. When you already know what the policy is why the he$$ do you go if its that big a deal to you. Been this way forever, take a break.

Every week somebody is on here, go read carnivals policy, .

[steveNcindy]

Didnt know they had ships that didnt allow smoking of some sort...

 

Celebrity does not allow smoking in cabin or on the balconies. It is an ideal solution for those who are vehemently opposed to balcony smokers.

[Cool Waters]

Not out of line at all......

 

Some probably consider spanking child abuse....

 

I see nothing wrong with smoking in the car with children, your choice if you do.

 

You're kidding me....right? :confused:

[roxy13]

OK so I am hoping I won't need to worry about where I smoke on my next cruise. First day smoking the E-cigarette and its not too bad so far. Different experience then smoking real cigarettes but not hitting withdrawal too bad. Anyone that wants to wish me luck cause I'm gonna need it.

 

:D It has been 2 weeks today for me and the E-cigg takes some getting use to.

[LadyPandora407]

Let me respond as a dreaded "smoker". You know when we cruise we are always very aware of where the smoking areas of the ship are and adhere to the Line's policy on smoking. Yes we always sail in a balcony cabin and yes we always smoke on the balcony but never in the cabin.

 

I really take exception to those who have an issue with smokers, outside, 30k+ wind moving across the deck, smoking in allowed areas. You know the ones......the glare, the rolling eyes. Wow...this is a wonderful country we live in. Same thing in the casino which is down to about 3 smoking tables for 4500 guests in the case of the Dream. I cannot tell you how many times on our last cruise that a non-smoker would sit down at a smoking table and then proceed to ask everyone "Do you really mind?" I always graciously pointed out the other 66 non smoking tables available.

 

Just sayin.....You know I have a real issue with those folks who insist on entering an elevator prior to the guests on the elevator getting off. You know the "ones" I speak of.

 

Hopefully CCL will recognize the difficulties we are experiencing and make each ship a wide open smoking area and only for those who know elevator etiquette. ;)

 

 

Actually as a former smoker and one who has had many friends and loved ones who have died of Lung Cancer, I am hoping all cruise lines follow the airlines and be smoke free...... :rolleyes:

[LadyPandora407]

Now you do realize that all of us smokers are now criminals, or at that is how we are made to feel.

 

It is what it is. I am a former smoker so I not only know where you come from, I actually agree with the "segregation" of smokers. While I agree you have the right to smoke on your paid balcony, I also have the right to a smoke free balcony that I paid for. I also hope the cruise lines follow the airlines and make all cruises non smoking.

 

You know after I quit smoking I was amazed at how many smokers smelled like the bottom of an ashtray... When I smoked I could never smell it myself but it really is disgusting. And this is just my opinion.

[DVC Sadie]

Surely not.....we just excuse ourselves and go to the "leper" colony:)

 

I happen to agree with you.:)

 

Smokers are the only people that others feel have the right to abuse, call names or just be rude. It is as if it has become hip, socially acceptable and poltically acceptable. I feel for all those who smoke and most have tried quitting numerous times.

 

Heck, it is even more socially acceptable to be obese than it is to be a smoker.

[andersonrm]

Hi, first time cruiser on Carnival in August. After scrolling through this thread, I'm still unclear (or I missed it) about where exactly you can smoke. Can you smoke IN your cabin, or is it limited to the balcony? If so, how is it for non-smokers who are assigned a cabin after a smoker has occupied it?

 

Is the smoke that overwhelming in the bars and casinos? I've only cruised on RCCL, and the smoke in the casino wasn't too bad. I would move if someone was smoking right next to me, but otherwise, the ventilation system did a pretty good job.

[DVC Sadie]

Yes smoking is disgusting and I for one who is still smoking after trying to quit on numerous occasions do try to be very respectful to those who don't smoke. I don't smoke in my own home (or anybody elses) nor do I smoke in a vehicle with others unless the driver is also a smoker or in our own vehicle and never in a vehicle with children.

 

If I am out on my balcony and someone next door is "nicely" asking if I could stop for a few minutes so they can enjoy their balcony I will happily comply and have worked out a compromise with numerous neighbors, numerous different cruiselines throughout our numerous years of cruising.

 

It appears to me as if the "smokers" in this country are last people that others feel that they can verbally abuse, treat like second hand citizens and are politically correct in discriminating against.

 

I am hoping to be able to quit through laser treatments (Lord knows I have tried every other option) this July and if I am able to quit I promise not to make those who have been unable to quit thus far as leper, criminal or less than.

 

Just my thoughts on this subject............

[BKJK]

Good luck in trying to quit, I hope you can. The fact that you want to quit but are not able to must suck for you though. That would be a hard battle to deal with. Im trying to get my Mom to quit but she really doesnt want to but needs to for her health. I wish she was like you and actually wanted to. Its one of those things that is easy for some people to quit and others its so hard and they can have alot of problems when they do try to quit. It seems to be kinda like some people can go on a diet suceed with no problems and others its a battle all there life...So good job trying. Everyone has some habit they need to break....

[Flynlo]

I happen to agree with you.:)

 

Smokers are the only people that others feel have the right to abuse, call names or just be rude. It is as if it has become hip, socially acceptable and poltically acceptable. I feel for all those who smoke and most have tried quitting numerous times.

 

Heck, it is even more socially acceptable to be obese than it is to be a smoker.

 

 

Good post, how many walk past the fat people and call em out?

[friedshrimp]

You would be surprised...If it was really ruining your balcony experience and you were really sweet and polite about it then most smokers would be ok with you asking. Now if you were on starboard ship public deck probably not so much but private cabin balcony I would be ok if you asked -- As long as we weren't cruising at 20 knots which would kinda make the request ridiculous -- Know what I mean?

 

Now if we could only get people to turn their balcony lights off at night!!!;)

[craftykitty]

:D It has been 2 weeks today for me and the E-cigg takes some getting use to.

 

The first few weeks are the hardest but you'll do it and become a non-smoker.

 

On another note, I can already see where things are going, if people can't complain about smokers, they are already setting up to complain about the lights on balconies.

 

Get a life! I paid for my balcony, if I want to sit out there and read a newspaper at 3 in the morning that's my choice. For god's sake there's one thing about being aware of your neighbours but when does anyone become aware of me? I'm sick and tired of always doing what other people want. Bring a sleep mask, pull your drapes, use earplugs, whatever it takes, but know this, once I pay my fare, I'm going to use the facilities that come with my cabin in any way I choose that is allowed by the cruiseline and law.

 

Maybe if some of my neighbours started to consider my feelings or rights every now and then (that means without miserable looks, comments or any other means to make me uncomfortable) I might be more open to negotiation. Blast me if you like, but Canadians are the most politically correct people in the world and I'm tired of it.

[craftykitty]

I happen to agree with you.:)

 

Smokers are the only people that others feel have the right to abuse, call names or just be rude. It is as if it has become hip, socially acceptable and poltically acceptable. I feel for all those who smoke and most have tried quitting numerous times.

 

Heck, it is even more socially acceptable to be obese than it is to be a smoker.

 

Isn't it interesting how we treat people who are addicts to drugs and who are trying to get help. We'd never treat them the way we treat people who smoke or for that matter who have weight issues. What we all forget is nicotine is one of the most addictive drugs known to man, more so than heroin or alcohol. Yet consider how we treat smokers. Like any addictions, they are incredibly hard to break and adding the stress of ostracizing people, bad manners, and plain rudeness just furthers emotions to make people smoke (or continue with any addiction) more.

 

Once cruiselines become non-smoking, will we then start to behave the same way towards people who enjoy a drink (are some of us going to become everyone else's liquor control board)? What about adult only cruises, heck, I could say I con't enjoy some other people bringing their kids, it compromises my enjoyment of my vacation. When and where does it stop?

 

Or is it just smokers and people with weight issues (after that the world is perfect)?

[DVC Sadie]

Isn't it interesting how we treat people who are addicts to drugs and who are trying to get help. We'd never treat them the way we treat people who smoke or for that matter who have weight issues. What we all forget is nicotine is one of the most addictive drugs known to man, more so than heroin or alcohol. Yet consider how we treat smokers. Like any addictions, they are incredibly hard to break and adding the stress of ostracizing people, bad manners, and plain rudeness just furthers emotions to make people smoke (or continue with any addiction) more.

 

Once cruiselines become non-smoking, will we then start to behave the same way towards people who enjoy a drink (are some of us going to become everyone else's liquor control board)? What about adult only cruises, heck, I could say I con't enjoy some other people bringing their kids, it compromises my enjoyment of my vacation. When and where does it stop?

 

Or is it just smokers and people with weight issues (after that the world is perfect)?

 

No, unfortunately the world will never be perfect for some even while cruising and it will never stop because there will always be someone who wants to change the behaviors of someone else.

 

What I find funny is that all the extra taxes on tobacco is used to help pay for healthcare for those on medicaid and medicare. I wonder what will happen when EVERYONE quits and then the taxes are raised across the board to pay for those programs.

 

Already people are pushing for higher taxes on sugary drinks and snacks.

 

I hope everyone has a wonderful cruise.:)

[MissDiva1]

I happen to agree with you.:)

 

Smokers are the only people that others feel have the right to abuse, call names or just be rude. It is as if it has become hip, socially acceptable and poltically acceptable. I feel for all those who smoke and most have tried quitting numerous times.

 

Heck, it is even more socially acceptable to be obese than it is to be a smoker.

 

Obese people only harm themselves.......

[DVC Sadie]

Obese people only harm themselves.......

 

True and False IMO.

 

The cost of healthcare for obese patients have skyrocketed in the last 5 years, across the board for both adults and children due to related illnesses such as Type II Diabetes, etc....and now exceeds the cost for tobacco related illnesses. There are doctors who now believe that sugar is as poisonous as nicotine.

 

I am in way advocating smoking or trying to validate smoking in any way, shape or form because it not only affects the smoker but "can" affect those around them.

 

I just want everyone to be considerate of others whether cruising or not. Happy cruising everyone.:)

[bplazo]

Well, if I was a smoker (which I never have been) and was asked not to smoke on a balcony where it was allowed, I would say sorry but no.

[LadyPandora407]

Yes smoking is disgusting and I for one who is still smoking after trying to quit on numerous occasions do try to be very respectful to those who don't smoke. I don't smoke in my own home (or anybody elses) nor do I smoke in a vehicle with others unless the driver is also a smoker or in our own vehicle and never in a vehicle with children.

 

If I am out on my balcony and someone next door is "nicely" asking if I could stop for a few minutes so they can enjoy their balcony I will happily comply and have worked out a compromise with numerous neighbors, numerous different cruiselines throughout our numerous years of cruising.

 

It appears to me as if the "smokers" in this country are last people that others feel that they can verbally abuse, treat like second hand citizens and are politically correct in discriminating against.

 

I am hoping to be able to quit through laser treatments (Lord knows I have tried every other option) this July and if I am able to quit I promise not to make those who have been unable to quit thus far as leper, criminal or less than.

 

Just my thoughts on this subject............

 

Good Luck on quitting smoking. My DH and I used Chantix when we quit , it worked quite well. I have never heard of laser treatments to quit smoking. Once you quit you will see what I mean about the smell. I had to wash everything in the house, plus we replaced the carpeting and painted everything, even replaced the furniture just to get rid of the smell as it was making both of us sick. Usually when we are outside I do not say anything about anyone smoking, unless the smoke is blowing right at me.

[LadyPandora407]

True and False IMO.

 

The cost of healthcare for obese patients have skyrocketed in the last 5 years, across the board for both adults and children due to related illnesses such as Type II Diabetes, etc....and now exceeds the cost for tobacco related illnesses. There are doctors who now believe that sugar is as poisonous as nicotine.

 

I am in way advocating smoking or trying to validate smoking in any way, shape or form because it not only affects the smoker but "can" affect those around them.

 

I just want everyone to be considerate of others whether cruising or not. Happy cruising everyone.:)

 

Actually I work for a Specialty Pharmacy and the cost of medications to treat cancer is more costly than the drugs for obesity induced illnesses. Most cancer treatments cost upwards of $10000 per treatment for IV or Injectibles, and for a month supply of pills can cost up to $7000. Compare that to a months supply of diabetic medications and supplies costing under $700 per month. Cancer is still the number one killer out there, it even surpassed AIDS.

[steveNcindy]

On another note, I can already see where things are going, if people can't complain about smokers, they are already setting up to complain about the lights on balconies.

 

Get a life! I paid for my balcony, if I want to sit out there and read a newspaper at 3 in the morning that's my choice. For god's sake there's one thing about being aware of your neighbours but when does anyone become aware of me? I'm sick and tired of always doing what other people want. Bring a sleep mask, pull your drapes, use earplugs, whatever it takes, but know this, once I pay my fare, I'm going to use the facilities that come with my cabin in any way I choose that is allowed by the cruiseline and law.

 

I don't have a problem with your light on at 3am if you are out on your balcony reading, doing a suduko, filming, whatever. I do however have a problem if people have gone to bed and left the light on.

 

I love sitting out on the balcony before heading to bed and it is best enjoyed in darkness if no one is out next door.

 

(again, if you are out there reading, no problem but if in bed, turn it off please)

 

Now, back to our regularly scheduled smoking thread :D