Aldeya Posted April 29, 2004 #1 Share Posted April 29, 2004 I don't want to start another negative discussion, but this really concerns me. from Center of Desease Control site": "Update on Outbreak Investigations - April 1, 2004 Cruise vessels are required to maintain a standardized gastrointestinal illness surveillance log for each cruise. The report includes the total numbers of passengers and crew members who reported gastrointestinal illness by dates of onset. Cruise vessels are required to submit a special report to CDC when the number of passengers and/or crew with gastroenteritis is 2% or higher. Outbreaks occur when 3% or more of the passengers or crew have reported gastroenteritis. The cruise ship below underwent investigation: Norwegian Cruise Line reported an increased number of cases of gastrointestinal (GI) illness on the ship, Norwegian Crown, for the voyage completed on April 4, 2004 (sailing dates: 3/22-4/04/2004) in Philadelphia, PA. On March 31, Norwegian Cruise Line contacted CDC’s Vessel Sanitation Program (VSP) staff to report that an unusual number of Norwegian Crown passengers were experiencing GI illness. At 9:05 a.m., EST April 2, the ship’s medical staff reported that 45 of 1018 (4.38%) passengers and 8 of 546 (1.47%) crew members were ill. The predominant symptoms were diarrhea, and vomiting. The vessel underwent extensive cleaning and disinfection. Lab specimens were submitted and tested negative for norovirus. Norwegian Cruise Line is providing special daily reports to VSP throughout the next cruise. Cruise ship travelers are reminded that simple hygienic practices, such as frequent and thorough hand washing with warm water and soap, and avoiding contact with other passengers when ill, are important measures to prevent the spread of disease. Additional information about CDC’s Vessel Sanitation Program is available at [url="http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp"]http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp[/url] Information on Norwalk-like viruses is available at [url="http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/revb/gastro/norovirus.htm"]http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/revb/gastro/norovirus.htm[/url] and [url="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5203a1.htm"]http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5203a1.htm[/url] Additional information on gastrointestinal diseases is available at [url="http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/gastro.htm"]http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/gastro.htm[/url] CDC protects people’s health and safety by preventing and controlling diseases and injuries; enhances health decisions by providing credible information on critical health issues; and promotes healthy living through strong partnerships with local, national, and international organizations. For more information, CDC’s Vessel Sanitation Program can be reached at [email]vsp@cdc.gov[/email] ." I also read on the board that AFTER this was posted people who were on 18-25 April cruise got really sick. Now with just few weeks to go I don't know what do. I don't want my child to get sick. I know, I know .. we have to wash our hands all the time and use sanitazers... I know... but the posssibility of getting really sick while on this particular ship is real. What do you all think about it? [url="http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/outbreak/2004/update_april1NorwegianCrown.htm"]http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/outbreak/2004/update_april1NorwegianCrown.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host CMLA Posted April 29, 2004 #2 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Unfortunately this type of thing can happen anywhere. Cruise ships are particularly susceptible because of the close quarters and you can't leave. Once your on board, you're on board for a week or so. If I were you, I'd be aware and mindful of where you put your hands and make sure to wash often. Other than that, it's a matter of everyone else being careful too. This is encouraging, I think:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The vessel underwent extensive cleaning and disinfection. Lab specimens were submitted and tested negative for norovirus. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Cecilia I can be contacted at [email]ladyndnver@aol.com[/email] [img]http://escati.linkopp.net/cgi-bin/countdown.cgi?trgb=000000&srgb=00ff00&prgb=006400&cdt=2004;10;02;12;00;00&timezone=GMT-0800[/img] My Wedding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lritch426 Posted April 29, 2004 #3 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Relax and enjoy your cruise. The percents are in your favor. Like you said wash your hands etc... Believe me if your child is in daycare or school they are in contact with as many germs, if not more, than on a cruise! [img]http://escati.linkopp.net/cgi-bin/countdown.cgi?trgb=000000&srgb=00ff00&prgb=0000ff&cdt=2004;5;16;16;0;00&timezone=GMT-0500[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda the Book Lover Posted April 30, 2004 #4 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Thank you Host Cecilia and Iritch426 for your answers. <LI>Tropicale ~ 5/93 <LI> Norwegian Wind ~ Hawaii ~ 4/4/03 <LI>Norwegian Majesty ~ Bermuda~ 5/30/04 <LI>[img]http://escati.linkopp.net/cgi-bin/countdown.cgi?trgb=000000&srgb=00ff00&prgb=00bfff&cdt=2004;5;30;16;0;00&timezone=GMT-0500[/img] Until we sail on the Norwegian Majesty to Bermuda! [img]http://gifs.net/animate/lmkbubblfsh.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gallup Posted April 30, 2004 #5 Share Posted April 30, 2004 There were less than 6,000 cases of Norwalk like virus recorded on cruise ships around the world last year (CDC). There were 127 Million recorded cases of Norwalk Virus reported in the United States of America last year (CDC). Where would you like to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbisson Posted April 30, 2004 #6 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Somethings wrong here. That's over 1/3 of the population of the US. Come on folks, you're not "holding up our end". Of course, if you consider that the average cruise is 1 week long (I'm guessing) and there are 52 weeks in a year and do the math---And then figure the average population on all cruise ships at a given time, compared to the total population of the US, and then try to subtract the people who may have been exposed on land and they showed symptons on the the ship, and then add the people exposed on the ships that didn't show until on shore--Gee, I have a headache and need to run to the bathroom just from thinking about all this -Monte some of my cruising photos: [url="http://community.webshots.com/user/m1bisson"]http://community.webshots.com/user/m1bisson[/url] A bad day cruising is better than a good day at work. The worst cruise I ever took was pretty damned good. Platinum with RCI, a couple cruises with NCL and 1 with CCL Clock remove but cruise in Dec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nhrich Posted April 30, 2004 #7 Share Posted April 30, 2004 As several posters have said, it's not just cruise ships. I saw a report the other day regarding over 1600 cases of Norwalk in Las Vegas. Last time I checked, there weren't any cruise ships going there [img]http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]. Of course, if we could figure a way to get the Norway there... Rich 12/94 Holland America Nieuw Amsterdam - W. Carib 01/96 Norwegian Dreamward - Carib 01/97 Carnival Inspiration - E. Carib 09/98 Celebrity Mercury - Alaska 02/99 Carnival Fascination - S. Carib 09/00 Celebrity Galaxy - Alaska 11/02 Norwegian Sun - W. Carib 03/03 Norwegian Dawn - W. Carib 09/03 Norwegian Majesty - Bermuda 11/03 Carnival Spirit - Panama Canal Coming Up Next: 05/04 Voyager of the Seas - Canada 10/04 Pride of Aloha - Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted April 30, 2004 #8 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Yes Vegas has been hit and those affected seem to be from Hawaii and all travel on a particular charter plane. Now the question: is it the plane or the hotel they are using? mbissaon, you are right, that's a large percentage, but remember many people cruise several times a year (don't I wish) and not only do American cruise, but people from all over the world love the high seas. I do think the figure is a bit high. As for worrying about the virus, it does cross all lines: we have been lucky, since the first reported outbreak a few years ago we have cruised 3 times and never been on a ship with any problems. None of us should let ourselves worry so much. Right? NMNita Commodore 1984, Costa 1985, RCL 1987, Chandris 1989, NCL 1989, Commodore, 1991, NCL 1997, Carnival 1997, Carnival 1998,NCL 1998, NCL 1999, RCL 2000, RCL 2000, NCL 2002,NCL 2003, Celebrity 2003, NCL 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtheNight Posted May 1, 2004 #9 Share Posted May 1, 2004 I remember reading somewhere that the highest percentage of norwalk virus cases are in hospitals and schools. [img]http://escati.linkopp.net/cgi-bin/countdown.cgi?trgb=000000&srgb=00ff00&prgb=008080&cdt=2004;5;29;20;00;00&timezone=GMT-1000[/img] Sailin' on the Wind 5/29/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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