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Last time I got and took a "free" cruise..if I recall it was not "only port fees and taxes"...I believe there was more added..

someone explained it as " you are not paying for taxes and port fees (as shown on the web site), you are paying taxes and NCF (non-commission fare). "

 

I am not an expert on how the port taxes and fees break down, but I do know that the part they call "port fees" are included in the published fares on NCL.com, while the taxes part are added afterwards.

 

These fees/taxes are also not related to the price of your fare. They are constant, and together tend to range between $175 and $350 total.

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Last time I got and took a "free" cruise..if I recall it was not "only port fees and taxes"...I believe there was more added..

someone explained it as " you are not paying for taxes and port fees (as shown on the web site), you are paying taxes and NCF (non-commission fare). "

 

 

That is a pricing trick cruise lines use. part of the published price is actually a non-commissionable fee. Depending on the cruise, it can be a couple hundred dollars or more. Not only does this beat the T/As out of commission, but it also raises the amount you have to pay for your "free" cruise.

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That is a pricing trick cruise lines use. part of the published price is actually a non-commissionable fee. Depending on the cruise, it can be a couple hundred dollars or more. Not only does this beat the T/As out of commission, but it also raises the amount you have to pay for your "free" cruise.

 

Interesting. I was always dumb enough to believe these were really port fees, especially since they absolutely never allow you to cruise for "free" without them, which you'd think they would if they really wanted to get a customer aboard. (The taxes and actual port charges make more sense, as they have to pass those on to third parties.)

 

But I did wonder how the "port fees" were included in the published fares. That never made any sense. Now it does.

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I have never been on NCL (my first time will be December), but as you might surmise from my name, I am an expert on the casino industry and perhaps can shed a bit of light upon the operations of Casinos At Sea (CAS).

 

 

Therefore, in most cases, CAS only hands out bottom-level interior cabins for free.

 

Incorrect. I've had offers from Balcony to Mini-Suite to Full Suite. And I know of many other people who have, as well.

 

 

And they enforce blackout dates, so you can't get these cabins during high season, such as the Thanksgiving and Christmas cruises.

 

Incorrect. I've had no blackout date restrictions. Some of the land-based casino certificates have blackout dates, but booking directly with CAS based on prior play = no blackouts.

 

 

 

This leads me to the question everyone is asking:

 

"If I got a free interior cabin, and if the NCL website lists it as being worth $499, why can't I upgrade to an oceanview room worth $599 for $100 per person? Why are they charging such outrageous fees for upgrades?"

 

This is because the "$499" room you're getting is worth $499 to you, but NOT to NCL. If it's going to likely sail empty, or if they are going to end up selling it for $269, then it's not really a $499 room, and you aren't going to get credit for $499 worth of comps. Instead, they will re-value the room at the rate it likely would have sold (by historical data from past cruises), and pretend that's what you paid. Your upgrade rate is based upon that.

 

Incorrect. Your upgrade is based on the price differential at time of booking. If you later go back to them & the price has since changed, they still refer back to historical pricing at the time of booking.

 

Or, if you want to get really simple, CAS is giving you a room THEY want you to occupy. If you decide that you want to occupy a different category, the "free" deal is pretty much off, and now you're going to have to pay a lot for it.

 

Incorrect. CAS operates in a fashion, as a travel agent of the cruiseline. They take a block of cabins in multiple categories, against each sailing. Thus, CAS may be out of cabins, while NCL still shows some available. The only reason you get a particular offer is due to your prior play.

 

 

 

 

For example, Caesar's properties have been giving a way a TON of NCL cruise certificates.

 

Caesar's did not pay a dime for these. CAS gave them for free to Caesar's, to hand out to Caesar's mid-level and high-level gamblers.

 

Well potentially-incorrect. Apollo owns Harrahs, and Apollo owns a portion of NCL. There may in fact be money exchanged between subsidiaries... I'm not sure you can unequivocally state that there wasn't, unless you're the CEO of NCL, Harrah's, or Apollo. Are you?

 

 

 

Now, you might say, "Well, CAS is looking for gambling, so how about I just gamble a lot in their casino, and get myself a lot of nice upgrades in the future, and perhaps charge-offs from my shipboard account for this cruise?"

 

Unless you are a sick gambler and can't resist giving them a lot of action, this is a bad idea.

 

Incorrect. So far, I have not lost 'significantly more' than had I had a smaller gambling budget, and paid for my full cabin. My philosophy has been to establish a budget comprised of the cost of the cabin, plus any expected comp/charge-offs, plus a small allotment, and avoid going past this. Thus, even if I lose my entire budget, I have not spent more than I would have spent otherwise. In return, my next cruise is also free... along with my drinks, expenses, dinners, etc.

 

 

 

The cruise ship casinos have TERRIBLE odds. For example, their video poker has horrendous payouts compared to their land based counterparts, as do the slots. The blackjack is more standard (I think -- haven't checked NCL specifically), but it won't get you anything special comp-wise.

 

Partially correct. 3 card poker is not dramatically different odds than on land, nor is Ultimate Texas Hold'em, nor Let it Ride.

 

 

 

In general, the comp programs for CAS stink compared to land-based casinos.

 

Incorrect. This is your value-judgment, and you've never even sailed on the line.

 

That is, the same amount of action given in a land-based casino will earn you far more comps and status than on a shipboard casino. So why lose your money where you won't even get good recognition/benefits/comps for it?

 

Because I don't live anywhere near a land casino, and I prefer to spend my vacation time on a ship, sailing from place to place. I don't gamble just for the sake of gambling, I gamble as an element of a larger vacation.

 

 

 

 

A few truisms, but mostly incorrect.

 

 

Stephen

 

 

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Ah, screw it, I'll just post the tips for the poker now.

 

Of course, this is opponent-dependent, so if the table is full of some relatively good (or highly aggressive) players, don't use this advice.

 

However, on the two Princess cruises I took in recent years, my poker opponents weren't just bad, they were terrrrrrrrrrrible. I mean, they were probably some of the worst players I've ever been up against.

 

By "worst", I mean very passive and straightforward.

 

So here are some general tips:

 

- Take control of the hand pre-flop. So if it starts out call, call, call, and you're in late position with Q-T offsuit, RAISE! Most players just call here, and that's a mistake. The amateur bets when he has it and folds when he doesn't. The better player tries to grab control of the hand and bet people off even if he misses the flop. Only "limp" preflop (that is, call along with everyone else in an unraised pot) when you have some low connected cards like 67.

 

- Respect pre-flop raises by others! Unless you have an aggressive player at the table, most people will fold their weak hands preflop, call with their mediocre ones, and raise the big ones. If you see someone who doesn't raise much kicking up his bet, FOLD, unless you have a monster yourself.

 

- After raising pre-flop, if it checks around to you, always BET, unless it's pretty clear that someone hit the flop. So if you have QT and the board comes A73 and it checks to you, still bet, as it's possible NOBODY hit it, and you will win. However, if the board comes 89T and you have 55, just check and give up, as SOMEONE will have a piece of that, and you're in terrible shape. But in most cases, do this continuation flop bet.

 

- Check the turn if you haven't improved and your hand is worse than top pair. You are probably up against a "calling station", and he probably has a better hand than you. Try to get to the river cheaply. Don't bluff anymore at that point. These players aren't good enough to make big folds.

 

- In general, don't bluff on the turn or river.

 

- If you think someone has hit a hand they are calling all the way (top pair or better), bet really big really quickly if you beat that. Also if you are seeing signs they have a straight or flush draw, charge them RIGHT NOW and go all in if your hand is strong. Bottom line is that people don't make big laydowns or consider pot odds at these cruise ship games. They just call off their money if they have a big draw or something like top pair or better.

 

These, of course, are generalizations, but these tactics will give you a big edge against a table full of amateurs. These tactics will NOT work against good players, as they will quickly pick up on what you're doing, and will play back at you. You are unlikely to be up against many good poker players on the cruise.

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If anyone can describe the blackjack tournament and how it works, I can also give some really good tips for that, too.

 

Will post the poker stuff later.

 

The blackjack tournament works like this:

You buy in for anywhere from $20-$50 and get $1500 in tournament chips.

The dealer deals 7 hands, with everyone at the table having a turn at 1st base.

After 7 hands, the 2 players at the table with the most tournament chips get put on the list for the final table.

People are allowed to re-buy as many times as there are rounds.

Players on the final table list can be bumped by those who re-buy.

The final table is run just like the preliminary rounds. After 7 hands, he who has the most chips wins the entry pot.

 

I was top dog in the Majesty Of The Seas tournament, and won $225. I finished 5th on the Norwegian Dawn and won a bottle of wine.

 

It is really luck as much as skill to win the prize.

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A few truisms, but mostly incorrect.

 

You are speaking mainly from the standpoint of a player invited directly by CAS. I was speaking from primarily the standpoint of a player invited by land-based casinos.

 

Most people traveling through CAS are not direct invites, but instead received interior cabin certificates from Caesar's or somewhere similar.

 

I cannot comment on your individual circumstance because I don't know how long you play, which limits you play, and which games you play. (By the way, 3-card-poker and Ultimate Texas Holdem already have pretty bad odds in the casino!)

 

You are basically trying to portray that it is worth a player's money to give the casino enough action to pay for their cruise. I find this highly unlikely, from everything I've learned about CAS from third parties I've spoken to.

 

Furthermore, I can assure you that your play on NCL will have ZERO impact on your status/tier credits at Caesar's. They do not share information. They do not cooperate. Caesar's Total Rewards program is self-contained, and hosts only care about where they have direct reach. For you to say that it MIGHT affect your Caesar's status (simply because I can't verify it with 100% certainty) provides false hope for people here.

 

Incorrect. Your upgrade is based on the price differential at time of booking. If you later go back to them & the price has since changed, they still refer back to historical pricing at the time of booking.

 

Perhaps that's how it works for direct CAS invites, but it does not work this way with certificates. Time of booking does not matter for certificates. You will never get a cheap upgrade with an interior cabin certificate, unless they happen to have a lot of a certain upper category open, and they are willing to let them go cheap. (CAS supervisors do have leeway to make exceptions if they feel like it, but they are usually hard-line.)

 

The experiences posted in this thread tend to back my assertion. Try waiting until a month before the cruise, using a certificate for an inside cabin, and trying to get an upgrade immediately to another category, using the difference in ncl.com price. They won't let you. The whole point of the interior cabin certificates is to fill otherwise unused/cheap cabins with gamblers. They do NOT want to allow people to use the certificates as a springboard to get a cheap balcony room.

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Ah, screw it, I'll just post the tips for the poker now.

 

Of course, this is opponent-dependent, so if the table is full of some relatively good (or highly aggressive) players, don't use this advice.

 

However, on the two Princess cruises I took in recent years, my poker opponents weren't just bad, they were terrrrrrrrrrrible. I mean, they were probably some of the worst players I've ever been up against.

 

By "worst", I mean very passive and straightforward.

 

So here are some general tips:

 

- Take control of the hand pre-flop. So if it starts out call, call, call, and you're in late position with Q-T offsuit, RAISE! Most players just call here, and that's a mistake. The amateur bets when he has it and folds when he doesn't. The better player tries to grab control of the hand and bet people off even if he misses the flop. Only "limp" preflop (that is, call along with everyone else in an unraised pot) when you have some low connected cards like 67.

 

- Respect pre-flop raises by others! Unless you have an aggressive player at the table, most people will fold their weak hands preflop, call with their mediocre ones, and raise the big ones. If you see someone who doesn't raise much kicking up his bet, FOLD, unless you have a monster yourself.

 

- After raising pre-flop, if it checks around to you, always BET, unless it's pretty clear that someone hit the flop. So if you have QT and the board comes A73 and it checks to you, still bet, as it's possible NOBODY hit it, and you will win. However, if the board comes 89T and you have 55, just check and give up, as SOMEONE will have a piece of that, and you're in terrible shape. But in most cases, do this continuation flop bet.

 

- Check the turn if you haven't improved and your hand is worse than top pair. You are probably up against a "calling station", and he probably has a better hand than you. Try to get to the river cheaply. Don't bluff anymore at that point. These players aren't good enough to make big folds.

 

- In general, don't bluff on the turn or river.

 

- If you think someone has hit a hand they are calling all the way (top pair or better), bet really big really quickly if you beat that. Also if you are seeing signs they have a straight or flush draw, charge them RIGHT NOW and go all in if your hand is strong. Bottom line is that people don't make big laydowns or consider pot odds at these cruise ship games. They just call off their money if they have a big draw or something like top pair or better.

 

These, of course, are generalizations, but these tactics will give you a big edge against a table full of amateurs. These tactics will NOT work against good players, as they will quickly pick up on what you're doing, and will play back at you. You are unlikely to be up against many good poker players on the cruise.

 

 

 

The last 2 cruises I was on, the TH tables weren't open, except for the tournament night.

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I called CAS today and I do get a free drink card for our cruise this coming March!! However, I have almost 1,200 points and I THOUGHT that I could use these points from previous cruise and add to upcoming cruise in Oct. 2014 and get a drink card for that cruise. They told me no, that I have to earn 1,500 points on that ship to get the card, cannot combine with points I already have!! Is this correct??? The only way that I could do that is to become a HOT member, which is 5,001 points or more.

 

Does anyone have experience with any of this?

 

 

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Once upon a time it was possible to combine points from a previous cruise in order to obtain a drink card. That ended a little over a year ago, and then earlier this year a whole new program was introduced. The new program actually provides a lot more rewards, and is organized in such a way that it's clear who gets what, based on their play.

 

If you haven't seen it yet, the entire program is outlined and explained here: http://www.ncl.com/freestyle-cruise/casinos-at-sea/players-club

 

It's very confusing at first, but so don't hesitate to ask questions.

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pokerpro5- You are so correct. I am Diamond at CET. I booked my upcoming Christmas cruise through CAS. They gave me a 10% discount on a suite and free drink cards for all 4 traveling. The 10% saved me $700. AARP or AAA would have saved me more with $300 OBC 9 months out. I got no OBC even though I was more than 9 months out. CAS said it is not combinable with the 10% discount. I plan on visiting the casino very little during my cruise. I see no benefit to playing there. I will gamble where I see the most benefit for my $$$$$ and a chance to win $$$$$. To those that receive the free balconies, mini suites etc... You are paying for them!!!!! Just like I am paying for my comped suite on the top floor, all meals, entertainment, limo, and anything else I want every time I walk into a Caesar's property. It is not how much you lose, it is how much and how long you play. It is called your daily rate of play. I also have received numerous "free" inside cabin cruises from CET. It is a marketing ploy! I have not booked one yet. CAS will have their high rollers just like the land based casinos and will treat them very well.

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pokerpro5- You are so correct. I am Diamond at CET. I booked my upcoming Christmas cruise through CAS. They gave me a 10% discount on a suite and free drink cards for all 4 traveling. The 10% saved me $700. AARP or AAA would have saved me more with $300 OBC 9 months out. I got no OBC even though I was more than 9 months out. CAS said it is not combinable with the 10% discount. I plan on visiting the casino very little during my cruise. I see no benefit to playing there. I will gamble where I see the most benefit for my $$$$$ and a chance to win $$$$$. To those that receive the free balconies, mini suites etc... You are paying for them!!!!! Just like I am paying for my comped suite on the top floor, all meals, entertainment, limo, and anything else I want every time I walk into a Caesar's property. It is not how much you lose, it is how much and how long you play. It is called your daily rate of play. I also have received numerous "free" inside cabin cruises from CET. It is a marketing ploy! I have not booked one yet. CAS will have their high rollers just like the land based casinos and will treat them very well.

 

Yup, exactly. While there are some ways to "game" the system at Caesar's and reach Seven Stars with fewer losses than you would recoup in freeplay, no such thing exists with the CAS program.

 

Simply put, there's a reason you are being offered anything better than an inside cabin directly from CAS, and it's because they have mathematically determined that your expected losses are greater than the fare someone else would pay to stay in your room.

 

BTW, I am in a very similar spot to you. I am taking a cruise an NCL cruise in December as a family of 4. I got my balcony stateroom for "free" as a standard benefit for being a Caesar's Seven Stars, and the other stateroom I'm paying for with that 10% discount you mentioned. I found it frustrating that Seven Stars are eligible for 35% discounts, yet I could only get 10% because I couldn't book myself twice. Once I had the free balcony stateroom in my name, the other two people didn't qualify for the 35% because they weren't Caesar's Seven Stars, even though I was paying for everything. You also cannot combine certificates for that same reason.

 

I don't know why you didn't get the OBC, though. I got a whopping $25 OBC with my second room booking. You should call and have this policy clarified. If they BS you and say that you can't get an OBC with the 10% discount, I will be happy to show you proof that I got it.

 

Kinda sucks, because I'm going during high season (Christmas), so I had to pay through the nose for the 2nd room, thus reducing the value of my "free" stateroom. Was hard to pass up, though, because I combined it with my Caesar's annual trip, so I also have the airfare covered for 2 people, as well.

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Oh, and speaking of the free drink card, while I know little about it (where it's good, where it's not good, etc), I was told that it's transferrable.

 

I have a 3-year-old in my room, and I will be transferring the card to an adult in my party, staying in another room.

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All 4 of us are in one 2 bed. suite. We are also traveling over the Holidays. When I booked I was only 49 and not 50 so I could not use AARP. They were not offering AAA discount at that time. When I called back to see about discount they told me it was not combinable. I would have to cancel res. and start over which I would have but all 2 bed. suites were sold out. They said there was a waiting list for our cabin.

I have learned a lot about CAS, NCL, and the whole procedure in general and will do things a little different next time. (After all I have had a whole year to research).

So in conclusion we are booked in the suite of our dreams for our 1st cruise. I may not know a lot about cruising but have traveled extensively land based and I do know how the casino wits and wagers game is played as it is the same everywhere.

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Oh, and speaking of the free drink card, while I know little about it (where it's good, where it's not good, etc), I was told that it's transferrable.

 

I have a 3-year-old in my room, and I will be transferring the card to an adult in my party, staying in another room.

 

Only those over the age of 21 will get a free drink card.

 

Harriet

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Oh, and speaking of the free drink card, while I know little about it (where it's good, where it's not good, etc), I was told that it's transferrable.

 

I have a 3-year-old in my room, and I will be transferring the card to an adult in my party, staying in another room.

 

You seriously think there will be a drink card for your 3 year old? :rolleyes: :D :eek: Don't hold your breath waiting for it.

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You are speaking mainly from the standpoint of a player invited directly by CAS. I was speaking from primarily the standpoint of a player invited by land-based casinos.

 

Okay

 

Most people traveling through CAS are not direct invites, but instead received interior cabin certificates from Caesar's or somewhere similar.

 

I'd disagree with this, too. CAS invites a lot of repeat players, directly.

 

I cannot comment on your individual circumstance because I don't know how long you play, which limits you play, and which games you play. (By the way, 3-card-poker and Ultimate Texas Holdem already have pretty bad odds in the casino!)

 

True. I realize they're not the best odds, but I find them the most fun. And I gamble for fun, not to make a living. I usually spend 4 - 5 hours/day on a table at average bet of $100. The closest Caesars property to me is 3.5 hours away, so I don't go there often...but I've been taking 2 - 3 cruises per year.

 

You are basically trying to portray that it is worth a player's money to give the casino enough action to pay for their cruise. I find this highly unlikely, from everything I've learned about CAS from third parties I've spoken to.

 

I've explained how I set my budget. Do I frequently lose my budget? Yes... but I don't feel the pinch, because it's no worse than having paid for the cabin in the first place.

 

Furthermore, I can assure you that your play on NCL will have ZERO impact on your status/tier credits at Caesar's. They do not share information. They do not cooperate. Caesar's Total Rewards program is self-contained, and hosts only care about where they have direct reach. For you to say that it MIGHT affect your Caesar's status (simply because I can't verify it with 100% certainty) provides false hope for people here.

 

Sorry, I don't recall suggesting that CAS play had any impact whatsoever on Total Rewards. If I said that, or insinuated it, please consider it retracted.

 

 

The experiences posted in this thread tend to back my assertion. Try waiting until a month before the cruise, using a certificate for an inside cabin, and trying to get an upgrade immediately to another category, using the difference in ncl.com price. They won't let you.

 

Of course not. They wouldn't let a CAS guest upgrade based on NCL.com prices, either. They take the prices as they were when CAS blocked the rooms.

 

The whole point of the interior cabin certificates is to fill otherwise unused/cheap cabins with gamblers. They do NOT want to allow people to use the certificates as a springboard to get a cheap balcony room.

 

Your last comment doesn't hold a lot of water either. CAS wants happy gamblers, so that they return. Sticking them in the cheapest-possible cabin is contrary to their aim. I've had Seven Stars friends obtain full suite comps on their first NCL sailing.

 

What's mildly irritating is that you have come here sounding authoritative, yet you have no inside knowledge of CAS operations. Some of us are 15-20 cruises in with them, and are friends with current & former hosts, pit bosses & dealers.

 

 

Oh, and speaking of the free drink card, while I know little about it (where it's good, where it's not good, etc), I was told that it's transferrable.

 

I have a 3-year-old in my room, and I will be transferring the card to an adult in my party, staying in another room.

 

Yeah...about that....it's not transferrable. It has your name, and sailing date written right on it.

 

It's also verified by the drink servers in the casino.

 

It's only valid in the casino, while playing.

 

And your 3 year old won't receive one.

 

 

 

Now, if you'd care to share how I can 'game' my way to Seven Stars.... then I'm all ears...'cause I have a lot less experience there, and I'm sure I could learn something from you.

 

 

Stephen

 

 

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Only those over the age of 21 will get a free drink card.

 

Harriet

 

Great.

 

Then yet again, a CAS rep misinformed me.

 

I was told I am entitled to 2 drink cards, and if one of my passengers is a minor, I can transfer it to an adult in my party.

 

I think I will call and complain about this today. Wouldn't have been a deal breaker, obviously, but irritating that I was promised this and it's not true.

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I received "free" cruise from taj in Atlantic city there were many cruises to choose from. Deal was pay taxes and fees for inside cabin pay no extra $$$. We booked breakaway for 3/23/14 and upgraded to a balcony. Total for 2 $1309. I did a mock cruise for same cabin level same date total was $25008 for 2. We also are told we get drink cards waiting in our cabin upon arrival so I think we got a great deal.

 

 

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Stephen, I think you misunderstood my postings about CAS.

 

I never said that nobody gets invites for better than inside cabins. If you're a huge whale in their casino, you will probably get an invite to the best suite on board, given enough action. (I took a Holland America poker cruise in 2006 where a Japanese whale had all kinds of crazy perks, including virtually unlimited credit to sign for more chips repeatedly, in increments of $10,000!)

 

It's a numbers game, as are all businesses.

 

If CAS mathematically determines your expected losses exceed what a balcony stateroom would go for, then yes, you will probably be offered a balcony stateroom or better.

 

As the other Caesar's gambler who posted here said, it's all casino marketing, just like on land. The difference is that you will earn more comp "value" at most land based casinos than on NCL or any other cruise. Now, you say that land based casinos are inconvenient for you, and that's fine. I am not someone to ever tell a person how to spend their money. I'm just saying that, all gambling budgets aside, you probably aren't saving the money you think you are, and if you have been, you've just run above expectation luck-wise.

 

My post was mainly directed at people receiving inside stateroom offers via certificates. That's where I have the knowledge, from both my own experience and connections I have at Caesar's (I lived in Vegas for 8 years). People were all confused why it was costing them so much to upgrade their inside stateroom from a certificate, and I explained it.

 

I also explained why it's typically not worth it to "shoot" for the comps/perks through shipboard gambling, and why people on land-based offers are not expected by CAS to gamble in order to keep their casino host happy.

 

I will admit that my post was not helpful to someone like you.

 

I will post later on how to grind your way to Seven Stars, though Caesars has taken a lot of steps to thwart this during the past 12 months.

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By the way, you keep saying CAS blocks rooms. I did not experience this.

 

I had a Seven Stars balcony certificate. When I booked, I could pick any room available in the cheapest balcony category. I ended up grabbing one that was just on the border of being considered mid ship, but still was technically in the cheapest category. No rooms were blocked for CAS specifically. Perhaps you mean a total allocation, and not blocked rooms?

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I just called NCL/CAS to check out prices on 11/17 Breakaway sailing. I asm a Mid-diamond player through CET and received a voucher for a free inside through CAS. Price was $676 for an inside. When I asked about an upgrade to a balvondy I was quoted $1366 for the two of us. If I book directly through NCL, a balcony BX is $1426 after taxes. If I call CAS and use my 20% discount I get it drops to $1196 and I get 50$ in obc. These free cruise vouchers can be a great deal, but you often can find even better with a little research.

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I received "free" cruise from taj in Atlantic city there were many cruises to choose from. Deal was pay taxes and fees for inside cabin pay no extra $$$. We booked breakaway for 3/23/14 and upgraded to a balcony. Total for 2 $1309. I did a mock cruise for same cabin level same date total was $25008 for 2. We also are told we get drink cards waiting in our cabin upon arrival so I think we got a great deal.

 

 

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I think you meant $2508 for 2.

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