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Just got off of Serenade of the Seas. Not only was it a lobster tail, it was a frozen lobster tail. I was hoping for a Caribbean lobster (Spiney lobster), but no such luck. Quoated from Jstonie.

 

What you got was a "Caribbean Lobster". The lobster you ate is found in waters off Florida to the Caribbean. They usually only serve the tail as there is not really any other meat to eat on this particular lobster. Being from New England I am not a fan of the "Southern" Lobster, no Lobster like we have here in New England YUM YUM!!!! Of course served with steamers, sausage, drawn butter and potato.

 

Wasn't like any Caribbean lobster I have had. I am a diver and we have caught our own lobster. What I had was a small frozen lobster tail from New England. I have been to Maine many times and bought live lobster from lobster pounds, which were excellent and succulent to eat. The Caribbean lobster is a long, spiney creature, but the meat is much better than anything we had on the Serenade. I have also had Caribbean lobster in Mexico (Cancun) that was much better than the Serenade.:)

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I agree with all that is being said regrading the quality of the food they serve on cruise ships. I sailed on the Explorer of the Seas in 2001 and the Jewel 2005. The food was hands down better in 2001. I traveled with some very picky diners in 2001 and I heard no complaints. 2005 was a different story completely. The are skimping on food not only in quality but also quantity. I am cruising again next week with rccl and I fully expect to order the salad and maybe two appetizers...to me the main course offerings are bland and something you would find at a badly catered wedding! No taste and lots of sauces to cover up the lack of quality of product to begin with. Thank goodness for Chops and Portofinos, they are wonderful and reasonable. That said though, we shouldn't have to opt for the alternative dining on a ship to get a good meal. Are they listening? I do NOT believe bigger is better unless you have done all you can to make what you HAVE better!

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RCI gets a few dishes right. The Cod is fabulous, beyond delicious. We always hit the specialty restaurants on Caribbean Night and Italian Night. For soem reason those are the most uninspired meals.

 

Chops is the way it used to be, twenty years ago. Beyond fabulous.

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Some of the sushi made in Jade is made with smoked salmon and some is made with canned tuna. You wouldn't choose to eat this on land but for a sushi fix, it might count.

 

They have a sushi counter on Celebrity but our beef with it was that it was never open until 6 and we had early dining so that effectively blocked us from enjoying it.

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I agree that the lobster on the ship is not of high quality. BUT... I enjoy it and try to put those thought in the back of my mind. As far as whole lobster... the only thing I like about it is it's fresh... Give me Claws and Tails .. I'm a happy guy!

Lobster... strange animal...could you imagine eating hooves and tails from a cow....

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I hadn't tried the lobster on two prior cruises but did on our last cruise on Jewel. I knew ahead of time that it was a warm water lobster tail - nothing like the lobster I was used to growing up in New England. And yes - Portland is a great place to get lobster. Many places to have it in the "rough" as a Mainer would say. Disappointed in what was served on Jewel. Overseasoned, overcooked, rubbery, and tough. But I saw others who were getting second and thirds so I may have been in the minority.

 

As for caviar, they had a caviar "buffet" setup at the Champagne Bar on Jewel. We visited at least three times during the week. As long as you purchased a glass of champagne you could help yourself to caviar and all the fixings (sour cream, egg white, egg yolks, toasts and chopped onion). I was told that the caviar wasn't the best quality. I know nothing about caviar but it tasted great to me.

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Keep in mind that sushi is NOT raw fish, that is sashimi. Sushi refers to anything made with vinegared rice. There are many different pieces of sushi that contain no fish at all.

 

Well, yes and no. A more accurate statement would be that not all sushi is raw fish. The majority of sushi in fact is raw fish served on rice. Sashimi is all raw fish with no rice.

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I hadn't tried the lobster on two prior cruises but did on our last cruise on Jewel. I knew ahead of time that it was a warm water lobster tail - nothing like the lobster I was used to growing up in New England. And yes - Portland is a great place to get lobster. Many places to have it in the "rough" as a Mainer would say. Disappointed in what was served on Jewel. Overseasoned, overcooked, rubbery, and tough. But I saw others who were getting second and thirds so I may have been in the minority.

 

As for caviar, they had a caviar "buffet" setup at the Champagne Bar on Jewel. We visited at least three times during the week. As long as you purchased a glass of champagne you could help yourself to caviar and all the fixings (sour cream, egg white, egg yolks, toasts and chopped onion). I was told that the caviar wasn't the best quality. I know nothing about caviar but it tasted great to me.

one you've had Maine Lobster you never go back. Isn't there some other phrase similar to that? That caviar buffet sounds great to me. I will look for it. Do you think it is only at certain times of the day?

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Well, yes and no. A more accurate statement would be that not all sushi is raw fish. The majority of sushi in fact is raw fish served on rice. Sashimi is all raw fish with no rice.

 

The word sushi refers to vinegared rice, and I quote:

 

"In Japanese cuisine, sushi is a food made of vinegared rice combined with a topping or filling of fish, seafood, vegetables, or egg. The topping may be raw, cooked, or marinated."

 

"In Japan the word sushi refers to a broad range of food prepared with sumeshi or sushi meshi, which is vinegared rice."

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The word sushi refers to vinegared rice, and I quote:

 

"In Japanese cuisine, sushi is a food made of vinegared rice combined with a topping or filling of fish, seafood, vegetables, or egg. The topping may be raw, cooked, or marinated."

 

"In Japan the word sushi refers to a broad range of food prepared with sumeshi or sushi meshi, which is vinegared rice."

I'm going to go out and get some vinegared rice for lunch.

Thanks for the info

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one you've had Maine Lobster you never go back.

 

 

well, thats not exactly true. My dh takes me out for Maine lobster once per week and I also buy Maine lobsters at the fish market once per week and have it at home, but I still have and enjoy it on the cruise ships. I just know there will be a difference between the two types of lobster.

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I am no Sushi conosore and I do appreciate all the info on what makes sushi, sushi. But I live in New Jersey. 20 minutes into New York City. I have been to Nobu 3 times (talk about fresh fish) and we have some very decent fresh sushi in New Jersey. But I also like the Sushi they make at the supermarket. I am sure that is not unbelievable fresh sushi but I still really enjoy it. Even if it is just a cucumber roll, or a shrimp roll, or even calafornia roll. It is the combo of the rice the nori the filling the ginger the soy sauce and the wasabi. So as long as the sushi on the ship is not really, as a nother thread said, tuna from a can, I think a few pieces might just hit the spot and be better then none.

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The word sushi refers to vinegared rice, and I quote:

 

"In Japanese cuisine, sushi is a food made of vinegared rice combined with a topping or filling of fish, seafood, vegetables, or egg. The topping may be raw, cooked, or marinated."

 

"In Japan the word sushi refers to a broad range of food prepared with sumeshi or sushi meshi, which is vinegared rice."

 

You're making my point.

 

Thanks for the definition. It basically states exactly what I said. Sushi is not JUST vinegarded rice.

 

From your definition: "combined with a topping or filling of fish, seafood, vegetables, or egg"

 

As I stated, a more appropriate definition than the one you gave (Sushi is NOT raw fish... that's an absolute and is incorrect) is that Sushi is often raw fish on vinegared rice, as well as other combinations that do not include raw fish. Stating, unequivocally, that sushi is 'not raw fish' is incorrect.

 

I'm not sure why you provided the definition that made my point.

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You're making my point.

 

Thanks for the definition. It basically states exactly what I said. Sushi is not JUST vinegarded rice.

 

From your definition: "combined with a topping or filling of fish, seafood, vegetables, or egg"

 

As I stated, a more appropriate definition than the one you gave (Sushi is NOT raw fish... that's an absolute and is incorrect) is that Sushi is often raw fish on vinegared rice, as well as other combinations that do not include raw fish. Stating, unequivocally, that sushi is 'not raw fish' is incorrect.

 

I'm not sure why you provided the definition that made my point.

Ya know, I don't understand the way some people get so bent out of shape on stuff. Because he left out the word "always" you do not have to get on his case. But in a sense he is right sushi does not mean it is not raw fish could be considered a true statement. It is not necessarily raw fish. And I quess your one of those people that have to always be right.

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Have to agree about the lobster and the "rubber chunks" comment. They serve this "lobster" on a formal night usually too. No wonder some people think it's ok to wear jeans. :D

 

I'm with you! I fish for trout (my favorite thing to do) and as far as I'm concerned caviar tastes like my bait smells. Tried it once...that was enough. I'm glad Lewdog clarified, sashimi is the raw fish I think folks are actually talking about. Once again, to me sashimi would be considered bait. But, to each his own...my mom loves headcheese...yecch!!!:rolleyes:

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Uh, I made one comment and he posted a reply that backed my comment. I simply then stated that. It was OK for him to respond, but not me?

 

Thanks for the lecture though.

I'm not sure why you provided the definition that made my point.

 

you may not realize it but that sounded nasty.

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Scher,

Somehow I don't think RCCL is going to supply your desires. Maybe a more upscale line is what you need. I know Celebrity has sushi, but they don't have whole lobsters and I haven't ever seen oysters on there. I have seen caviar on their Concierge Class hors d'oevres though.

Good luck.

 

I was on Carnival in Sept of 04 and there was a Sushi bar next to the casino. Well, it was hardly ever open and not many people used it when it was. Who knows, maybe not advertised enough?

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No AlDubya I was making my point and I stand behind how I said it. People mistakenly refer to sushi as raw fish which it is not.

 

You can eat nothing but the vinegared rice with no other ingredients and it is still called sushi. So yes, sushi can be just the rice.

 

Thanks for the backup there Scher, we'll split a platter and some sake, my treat!

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Just remember the fish (sushi) is not FRESH caught. The lobster tails whether they are from New England or the Caribbean or Gulf of Mexico they are frozen 1st then served. IMHO the only way to eat any kind of seafood is fresh not frozen. Frozen takes away alot of the taste. Yes I know fish is "frozen" at sea but the fresher the better.

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The word sushi refers to vinegared rice, and I quote:

 

"In Japanese cuisine, sushi is a food made of vinegared rice combined with a topping or filling of fish, seafood, vegetables, or egg. The topping may be raw, cooked, or marinated."

 

"In Japan the word sushi refers to a broad range of food prepared with sumeshi or sushi meshi, which is vinegared rice."

 

I plead moronic, myopic American. Yes you are all correct on this one. I still think of sushi as raw fish tho, even tho I usually order vegetable sushi. :p

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No AlDubya I was making my point and I stand behind how I said it. People mistakenly refer to sushi as raw fish which it is not.

 

You can eat nothing but the vinegared rice with no other ingredients and it is still called sushi. So yes, sushi can be just the rice.

 

Thanks for the backup there Scher, we'll split a platter and some sake, my treat!

Anytime your in New Jersey! Always looking for new Sushi friends.

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