Points mystery at table games

[Globaler]

How are points calculated at craps, 3 card poker and Let it Ride on Princess?

Edited March 14 by Globaler

[memoak]

It seems to be based on time played and average bet. So really pretty subjective 

[Globaler]

54 minutes ago, memoak said:

It seems to be based on time played and average bet. So really pretty subjective 

Does getting more chips up front factor in?

[memoak]

47 minutes ago, Globaler said:

Does getting more chips up front factor in?

I do not think so because you could just cash them in at any time. 

[Globaler]

8 minutes ago, memoak said:

I do not think so because you could just cash them in at any time. 

That’s what I thought but you never know as I have read a few posts that seem to think that it’s less than a set in stone process.

[dwc13]

What matters is type of bets made, average amount bet, and time at the table actively playing. 

 

Buy in doesn't matter from the casino's perspective because it has no advantage until chips are actually bet. A player could buy in for $5,000 then pocket $4,500, take a break and cash in $4,500 chips and return to the table to buy in again. FWIW, I buy in on multiple occasions as a form of bankroll preservation and to document I was playing at given points in time. 

 

Craps is by far the most difficult game to evaluate because of the variety of bets (and the different associated house edge on each) and the player's ability to press/regress/turn off most of them during a roll. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 14 by dwc13

[Globaler]

I agree with time. On a 16 day cruise is it an accumulation of the days or does the first week matter more?

[dwc13]

40 minutes ago, Globaler said:

I agree with time. On a 16 day cruise is it an accumulation of the days or does the first week matter more?

 

 

In general, when you gamble during a cruise doesn't matter as far as earning points. Obviously, some table games supervisors are more competent / player-friendly when evaluating play. It's a good idea to verify your rated play at table games so any discrepancies can be addressed. It also depends on your objective. Is it free drinks while playing at the casino, a rewards program tier level, earning enough points for a limited time cruise specific casino promotion or something else? 

 

On my last cruise with Holland America (May 2023), we didn't buy a beverage package. Fortunately, the casino offered free drinks while gambling to those who had earned 1500 points during the cruise. In that situation earning 1500 points earlier was better so I could take advantage of the 'free' drinks sooner. Note that depending upon play / luck, it might be more economical to buy a beverage package in advance rather than trying to qualify for free drinks from the casino. 

 

If you're trying to get to the next tier of a cruise line casino rewards program, then it doesn't matter when you earn the points as long as the current annual period doesn't expire during your cruise. If the end date for the current annual period will occur during your cruise and you still need points to achieve the next tier, it might be better to get ahead of the curve and earn points earlier in the cruise. You know, just in case there are great entertainment options or an emergency happens and you're unable to gamble as often as you had planned. However, if you realize you won't be able to achieve the next tier during the soon-to-expire current annual period (during the cruise), then perhaps wait for the new annual period to begin before starting to gamble. 

 

For limited time cruise specific casino promotions, the applicable terms will dictate when and how many points you need to earn to qualify. 

 

[Globaler]

4 minutes ago, dwc13 said:

 

 

In general, when you gamble during a cruise doesn't matter as far as earning points. Obviously, some table games supervisors are more competent / player-friendly when evaluating play. It's a good idea to verify your rated play at table games so any discrepancies can be addressed. It also depends on your objective. Is it free drinks while playing at the casino, a rewards program tier level, earning enough points for a limited time cruise specific casino promotion or something else? 

 

On my last cruise with Holland America (May 2023), we didn't buy a beverage package. Fortunately, the casino offered free drinks while gambling to those who had earned 1500 points during the cruise. In that situation earning 1500 points earlier was better so I could take advantage of the 'free' drinks sooner. Note that depending upon play / luck, it might be more economical to buy a beverage package in advance rather than trying to qualify for free drinks from the casino. 

 

If you're trying to get to the next tier of a cruise line casino rewards program, then it doesn't matter when you earn the points as long as the current annual period doesn't expire during your cruise. If the end date for the current annual period will occur during your cruise and you still need points to achieve the next tier, it might be better to get ahead of the curve and earn points earlier in the cruise. You know, just in case there are great entertainment options or an emergency happens and you're unable to gamble as often as you had planned. However, if you realize you won't be able to achieve the next tier during the soon-to-expire current annual period (during the cruise), then perhaps wait for the new annual period to begin before starting to gamble. 

 

For limited time cruise specific casino promotions, the applicable terms will dictate when and how many points you need to earn to qualify. 

 

Thanks for the reply. I don’t Think Princess operates on an annual basis but i do think your suggestion to talk to the pit boss and see how I am being rated if nothing more then I care and hopefully get a favorable review.

[emmak8]

How many points would be considered good for getting perks when the cruise is 14 days?

[Globaler]

1 hour ago, emmak8 said:

How many points would be considered good for getting perks when the cruise is 14 days?

Google “the chill cruiser” he did a good report on Princess casino.

[spunks]

my issue with Princess ( and I have almost 700 nights on Princess) is that NOBODY associated with Princess can/will tell you what level points you need to accumulate to get anything comped. For years I went from Pit boss to casino host to casino manager to casino website to phoning the casino.....whew! I never got any kind of answer. Offers might come, but there was never any explanation as to why.

 

We had a 27 day comped cruise with VIP booked that we cancelled because we thought it was a waste of our Casino dollars to spend on Princess. RCCL on the other hand publishes a list of what you will receive at every level of play. That list is posted right at the host desk and cashier cage.