Tipping Question

[scejas]

Hello everyone,

 

Question -- does anyone know for a fact whether the automatic tipping system actually gets distributed to everyone as described?

 

Am I better off taking off the tips and just giving cash to the waiter, room stewardess, etc...

[exoticpetlover]

I am pretty sure they are dispersed to the departments stated but we always tip daily to the room steward, wait staff in the dining room and everyother time to any bartenders...they do work hard for their tips!

[cathyz]

Hello everyone,

 

Question -- does anyone know for a fact whether the automatic tipping system actually gets distributed to everyone as described?

 

Am I better off taking off the tips and just giving cash to the waiter, room stewardess, etc...

No, removing the tips isn't a good idea, if you do, the crew involved gets asked by their managers what went wrong and why you removed the tips. We always leave the tips on and then add cash for almost everyone, they sure earn it!

[KroozNut]

Can we please put an end now to this thread while we're ahead? Sheeeesh!! :cool:

[woodman]

Come on KroozNut lets have a little fun here. Keep it going.

Next please. LOL

[Terry305]

Hello everyone,

 

Question -- does anyone know for a fact whether the automatic tipping system actually gets distributed to everyone as described?

 

Am I better off taking off the tips and just giving cash to the waiter, room stewardess, etc...

 

 

Are you doing a review on the Imagination??lol

 

They get distributed, I always give them an extra.

 

I believe is 5.50 dining room, 3.50 room steward, 1.00 buffet

[G'ma]

Hello everyone,

 

Question -- does anyone know for a fact whether the automatic tipping system actually gets distributed to everyone as described?

 

Am I better off taking off the tips and just giving cash to the waiter, room stewardess, etc...

 

If not, what do you imagine happens to that money?

 

Of course it does.

 

The reason Carnival started the auto tipping option was because too many people walked off the ship and didn't leave any tip at all.

 

The money is distributed exactly as shown on Carnival's website. You are, of course, free to give additional gratuity in cash to anyone you feel is deserving.

[mike91911]

This question has been beaten back and forth. Everybody cites what happens to the tips but nobody can give any proof of what really happens. He told me this... The room steward told me that... This website wrote this... Someone wrote that 90% of people who remove auto tips to pay in cash actually never pay. They should just make this post go poof now and save someone from getting put in time out. (even if what they said is true) No names mentioned. :D

[scejas]

I brought the question up because while speaking to one of my waiters they mentioned that their paycheck never changes ....

 

So I found it curious that no one has ever adjusted their tips up or down ...

[DG2004]

I brought the question up because while speaking to one of my waiters they mentioned that their paycheck never changes ....

 

So I found it curious that no one has ever adjusted their tips up or down ...

 

 

 

I think their paycheck is seperate from the tipsthey earn, but I could be wrong

[VentureMan_2000]

Carnival distributes $3.50 per day to steward, $5.50 to dining staff, and $1 to bistro staff.

 

Why would you think that Carnival would not distribute the moeny...?

 

80% or more of folks who remove their TIPs to "TIP in cash" never have any intention of TIPing a penny... so now you are suspect in your question... :cool:

[VentureMan_2000]

I brought the question up because while speaking to one of my waiters they mentioned that their paycheck never changes ....

 

 

 

Do you bring up the topic of pay and TIPing to your waiters on the mainland... and ask them how much they make...? :eek:

 

 

 

Don't you think that's just a bit over the TOP and rude to the cruise staff to broach such topics...? :cool:

[lindareneepreston]

I was on a RCCL ship earlier this year and this subject came up with our waitress. My husband and I were always the only ones who showed up for dinner, despite being at a table for 10 or 12...so over the course of 7 days, we got pretty friendly with her. She was telling us that she and another member of the cruise staff (also a waiter) were engaged and how they were saving up their money...anyhow, in the course of that conversation she said that all they get is tips... they get no other pay whatsoever. I was very surprised to hear that. (maybe she just said that to make us tip more, who knows... but if that's true, that doesn't seem like very much money).

[Wennfred]

 

Am I better off taking off the tips and just giving cash to the waiter, room stewardess, etc...

 

I leave my auto tipping alone, if I want to tip more which I normally do, I tip extra during the middle of the cruise or at the end. Besides its one thing less to worry about.

 

With the way I spend at the casino, who knows if I will have a dime left to give them after. Thats another reason to leave the tips alone.

 

 

 

Fred

[scperk]

Can we please put an end now to this thread while we're ahead? Sheeeesh!! :cool:

If you don't like this topic, why did you ever read it in the first place...Are you just trying to increase your post count?.....Dennis

[FnyFACEnAL]

Recently we had friends remove their tips and then cruised again to find lousy service. I wonder if the crew have a way of knowing who has not tipped in the past?

[MrPete]

Hello everyone,

 

Question -- does anyone know for a fact whether the automatic tipping system actually gets distributed to everyone as described?

 

First, why would you worry about this? Do other people you interact with inquire as to if you get what's coming to you in your salary/compensation?

 

And these employees, when they sign on, are fully aware of their compensation. They wouldn't stay if they were rooked, and these cruiselines need to keep them.

 

The cruiselines do the autotips to HELP them, not to get a cut.

 

And BTW, being they are brought in any time someone removes their tips to question what might have gone wrong, is not someone I would want serving my food or being in my stateroom afterwards. :eek:

 

No, go forth!

[steveaaaaa]

Hello everyone,

 

Question -- does anyone know for a fact whether the automatic tipping system actually gets distributed to everyone as described?

 

Am I better off taking off the tips and just giving cash to the waiter, room stewardess, etc...

 

I tip in cash as I believe there is a cut taken out. One cannot believe that CCL is wiring millions of dollars in cash all over the world every week never mind the man power just to account for it.Wiring is not free.

It would seem to be an expense that the cruiselines would incur.If they just left it as cash,they would not have to do any account,distibuting,or paperwork.

 

I posted a link a month or so ago that shows that many other people get a portion of tips besides the people we think are getting them.But there are those that will argue that its a head hunter.

I assume,that if I give it in cash to someone,there is no one else grabbing it.

Why do they like auto tips? So the higher ups are guaranteed their cut.IMHO.

Steve

[cathyoo]

I tip in cash as I believe there is a cut taken out. One cannot believe that CCL is wiring millions of dollars in cash all over the world every week never mind the man power just to account for it.Wiring is not free.

 

I'm confused why are they wiring anything?? Who do they wire it to? That makes no sense. Many an employee has posted on websites and if Carnival was taking a cut we would have certainly heard about it. People who remove their tips in my opinion generally do it to stiff the staff.

[KroozNut]

I brought the question up because while speaking to one of my waiters they mentioned that their paycheck never changes ....

 

So I found it curious that no one has ever adjusted their tips up or down ...

 

Please read post #8.. :cool:

[steveaaaaa]

I'm confused why are they wiring anything?? Who do they wire it to? That makes no sense. Many an employee has posted on websites and if Carnival was taking a cut we would have certainly heard about it. People who remove their tips in my opinion generally do it to stiff the staff.

 

They wire the money home to their families.

 

As far as a taking a cut, here's a Cruise critic article portion...........

 

But it is anyone's guess just how much of the daily charge on your account will go to a particular steward or waiter. Tips are distributed on a schedule that includes those who previously went unrewarded like the servers in the Lido restaurant where most passengers eat their breakfast and lunch. To accomplish the admirable task of compensating the overlooked steward without causing undue complaint from passengers, the amount given to dining room and room stewards is less under this scheme than it was previously. I know this, because I have asked stewards who have served under both systems. The top cabin and dining room stewards made out better before.

If you tip in cash, the people are sure to get their fare share.

Steve

[cathyoo]

They wire the money home to their families.

 

As far as a taking a cut, here's a Cruise critic article portion...........

 

But it is anyone's guess just how much of the daily charge on your account will go to a particular steward or waiter. Tips are distributed on a schedule that includes those who previously went unrewarded like the servers in the Lido restaurant where most passengers eat their breakfast and lunch. To accomplish the admirable task of compensating the overlooked steward without causing undue complaint from passengers, the amount given to dining room and room stewards is less under this scheme than it was previously. I know this, because I have asked stewards who have served under both systems. The top cabin and dining room stewards made out better before.

If you tip in cash, the people are sure to get their fare share.

Steve

 

Still clueless as to the wiring stuff.. Why would Carnival wire the money to the employees families. The employee would do that and that would have nothing to do with Carnival.

 

So if you tip in cash do you make sure to tip all those overlooked servers??? And nothing in what you quoted even suggests that Carnival skims some money. Carnival discloses the amounts that go to each segment of the crew. I've read nothing that supports your claim of Carnival stealing the auto tip.

[dan40]

They wire the money home to their families.

 

As far as a taking a cut, here's a Cruise critic article portion...........

 

But it is anyone's guess just how much of the daily charge on your account will go to a particular steward or waiter. Tips are distributed on a schedule that includes those who previously went unrewarded like the servers in the Lido restaurant where most passengers eat their breakfast and lunch. To accomplish the admirable task of compensating the overlooked steward without causing undue complaint from passengers, the amount given to dining room and room stewards is less under this scheme than it was previously. I know this, because I have asked stewards who have served under both systems. The top cabin and dining room stewards made out better before.

If you tip in cash, the people are sure to get their fare share.

Steve

 

You quote a generic article, non-specific to any certain cruiseline and you know or should know that each line has their own way of doing tips. The last line of your quote indicates the info comes from an ALL TIPS POOLED arrangement. And that is not Carnival's way of doing tips. Plus the writers info obviously comes from waiters and stewards. And you should also KNOW, the worst source of information about any person's income is that person. It is a area where even the most honest, LIE! So if I'm the writer and I'm basing my story on the word of VERY interested employees, my concern is NOT truth, it is getting my story printed. And controversy SELLS!

 

You believe the cruiseline takes a cut. You said IMHO they take a cut. And that I agree with 100%. Not that the cruiseline takes a cut, but that it is strictly your opinion. Based only on your own ______ imagination. [you fill in the blank] Not a fact in evidence, not a reference to any proof. JUST your opinion. You are welcome to your opinion. IF the line does take a cut, or better stated, charge a transfer fee. What the hell business is it of mine, or yours? And IF [and my OPINION has great doubts here] you actually do tip in cash. wink, wink. How does the worker get it home to his family????? He deposits it in his onboard account and has it electronically transfered home JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER MONEY HE GETS. So how did you help him? Especially if he IS questioned when tips are removed and he is required to give up that money to the pool.

You, the champion of the little guy have forced him to share your, no doubt huge tip, with ALL other tipped employees PLUS he still incurs your imaginary transfer charge.

 

He's probably thinking, "Thanks Steve, but please don't help me any more!"

Dan

[steveaaaaa]

Still clueless as to the wiring stuff.. Why would Carnival wire the money to the employees families. The employee would do that and that would have nothing to do with Carnival.

 

So if you tip in cash do you make sure to tip all those overlooked servers??? And nothing in what you quoted even suggests that Carnival skims some money. Carnival discloses the amounts that go to each segment of the crew. I've read nothing that supports your claim of Carnival stealing the auto tip.

 

 

Both your post and the post following it (Dan40) are contradicting each other. You state,that the employeee wires the money and it has nothing to do with CCL, and he states they use their onboard CCL account and has it electronically transfered home.So who's wrong?:D

 

So you think CCL is giving them a check?They are then going ashore and paying a check cashing fee then going to a western union and paying a wiring fee?

Would it not be cheaper for them to take cash and then wire it?CCL now got into the payroll portion of the tipped crew instead of leaving the cash system which allowed them to do nothing and dedicate no staff to it.I wouldn't be surprised if the administration of this tip disbursement does not cost CCL a million dollars or more a year,and I doubt they are doing it for free.

 

As far as all those overlooked servers,who are you talking about?What other servers? You are not talking the lido people are you? If so,they are behind the scenes,just like in the dining room.I don't go back and tip those preparing the food and laying it out,just like they do in the lido.They lay it out.

Steve

[steveaaaaa]

IF the line does take a cut, or better stated, charge a transfer fee. What the hell business is it of mine, or yours?

 

 

The cruiseline made it our business when they took it upon themselves to get into our business by instituting the autotip.

They claim the crew is better compensated by it,but if they are taking a cut or charging any fees,then the crew suffers. The argument that the crew does not get stiffed as much holds little water when the fact is they went through the effort and expense and continued expenses of administering it when the simple solution was to pay a fare wage and include it in the fare,by they insist on doing this tip dance.

What purpose does this tip dance serve for the betterment of the crew?

How can you believe that a real salary plus any tips is not better then this whole plain tip scheme?

Steve