billroddy Posted December 5, 2008 #1 Share Posted December 5, 2008 From an old folder given to passengers, here are thumbnails of the deck plans. Click on any for a full size view. Then back for more choices. Bill Ancient Mariner http://americahurrah.com/Cruises/Cunard/CunardDeckPlan.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Avery Posted December 5, 2008 #2 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Great images! It also illustrates the amazing progress made in shipping. The QV has taken all this time to achieve the same speed as Aquitania while looking magnitudes uglier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted December 5, 2008 #3 Share Posted December 5, 2008 From an old folder given to passengers, here are thumbnails of the deck plans. Thanks for posting. These are usually called 'cut-aways' or 'schematics' - while 'deck plans' are the 'looking down from on top' ones we get in brochures. Meantime, here's a cut away of Queen Victoria: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunard_cruiser Posted December 6, 2008 #4 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Great post, where did you get the QV cut away from ? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted December 6, 2008 #5 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Great post, where did you get the QV cut away from ? The Cunard Image Library - if you right click on the image (depending on your browser) you should get an option to open the image in a new tab - the url will be there. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted December 6, 2008 #6 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Thanks for posting. These are usually called 'cut-aways' or 'schematics' - while 'deck plans' are the 'looking down from on top' ones we get in brochures. Meantime, here's a cut away of Queen Victoria: Peter, At the bow, under the water line there are three holes with x's in them. Could you tell me what they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted December 6, 2008 #7 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Peter, At the bow, under the water line there are three holes with x's in them. Could you tell me what they are? Bow thrusters for maneuvering in port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted December 6, 2008 #8 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Bow thrusters for maneuvering in port. Why I asked, and please don't laugh if I am wrong, but is there any way pirates coud get into the ship via those bow thrusters? I mean if they were divers, could it be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrence Richards Posted December 6, 2008 #9 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Hi Peter, It was so nice to finally meet you on the Queen Mary 2, October 10, Crossing. How do I find the Cunard Image Library? Clicking on the image with my Apple wireless Mighty Mouse did not open a new window. Terrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CunarderRon Posted December 6, 2008 #10 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I'm sure they'd be cut to pieces and made into fish bait before anything like that would happen. But actually, I don't think the inside tunnels for the bow thrusters have any actual access to the ship itself. Am I wrong here, anyone? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted December 6, 2008 #11 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I'm sure they'd be cut to pieces and made into fish bait before anything like that would happen. But actually, I don't think the inside tunnels for the bow thrusters have any actual access to the ship itself. Am I wrong here, anyone? Ron Ron, quite correct, if they didn't drown (the thrusters are well underwater) they would find no access to the inside of the ship.....and if they turned the thrusters on....instant fish food..... Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunard_cruiser Posted December 6, 2008 #12 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Peter, I can't do the right click as the option is greyed out on my pc, any chance you can let me know the link - do you need my e-mail ? Thanks John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted December 6, 2008 #13 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Hi Peter, It was so nice to finally meet you on the Queen Mary 2, October 10, Crossing. How do I find the Cunard Image Library? Clicking on the image with my Apple wireless Mighty Mouse did not open a new window. Terrence Hello Terrence - great to meet you too - and didn't we have fun on the Cavalcade! More people on the QM2 should try it. The image is here: http://www.cunardimages.com/ImageDepot/Hires/18071.JPG Best wishes Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrence Richards Posted December 6, 2008 #14 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Peter, thanks for the link. I was able to print it. Why does the QV and most likely the new QE look like stacked cargo ships to me? Do others see that also? Above my desk is a beautiful 15x20 photo of the Queen Elizabeth 2 sailing north up the Hudson River with the twin towers of the World Trade Center in the background. This was taken before September 2001. The QE2 is so beautiful with its sleek, gracious looking hull. No cruise ship today has that look anymore. Terrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted December 6, 2008 #15 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Why does the QV and most likely the new QE look like stacked cargo ships to me? Do others see that also? Above my desk is a beautiful 15x20 photo of the Queen Elizabeth 2 sailing north up the Hudson River with the twin towers of the World Trade Center in the background. This was taken before September 2001. The QE2 is so beautiful with its sleek, gracious looking hull. No cruise ship today has that look anymore. Terrence, I think the key word in your post is “today”. The two ships were products of different eras, different economic thinking, and radically different design and engineering methodology and techniques. They were also built to appeal to totally different customer bases. Comparing QV with QE2 is no more valid than comparing the Boeing 747 with the Lockheed Super Constellation, or the Canary Wharf tower with the Tower of London. Evolution is a one-way street. It would be interesting to meet here again in about 30 years time (if I’m spared, which seems unlikely) and see whether attitudes to QV and QE have changed in comparison with whatever is, by then, the latest thinking in cruise ship design. And, before we all get exercised again about “cookie cutter ships”, here is a quote from Philip Dawson’s book “The liner: retrospective & renaissance”, discussing the establishment in 1838 of Samuel Cunard’s transatlantic mail steamship service: “Cunard wanted his Atlantic steamships to be as identical as possible , so as to establish a uniform standard of design, performance and operation. For his passengers, a consistency of shipboard design, service and comfort would be identifiable more with the line itself than with any particular ship in its fleet” Plus ca change…? Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted December 6, 2008 #16 Share Posted December 6, 2008 And, before we all get exercised again about “cookie cutter ships”, here is a quote from Philip Dawson’s book “The liner: retrospective & renaissance”, discussing the establishment in 1838 of Samuel Cunard’s transatlantic mail steamship service: “Cunard wanted his Atlantic steamships to be as identical as possible , so as to establish a uniform standard of design, performance and operation. For his passengers, a consistency of shipboard design, service and comfort would be identifiable more with the line itself than with any particular ship in its fleet” Plus ca change…? Jimmy Well said Jimmy! 'Cookie Cutter' ships are an important part of Cunard's heritage too.....and these two will be the biggest and fastest ever..... Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrence Richards Posted December 9, 2008 #17 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hi Jimmy, This is one of the nice features of these Boards that allows all of us to express our views about Cunard and the ships we have sailed on over the years. Please understand that I do not live in the past and love everything about "today", especially all aspects of technology that provided me with an iMac computer, iPod Touch, Motorola Razr V3 cell phone, digital camera, and a new Lincoln MKS 2009 with a GPS with Sync availability. However, (here it comes) comparing something from yesterday and today is not the issue here with the look of the QV and the new QE compared to the QE2. When something looks nice and something does not look nice, that's it. If something is ugly, it's ugly regardless of time! What do you think? Terrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Avery Posted December 9, 2008 #18 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hi Jimmy, This is one of the nice features of these Boards that allows all of us to express our views about Cunard and the ships we have sailed on over the years. Please understand that I do not live in the past and love everything about "today", especially all aspects of technology that provided me with an iMac computer, iPod Touch, Motorola Razr V3 cell phone, digital camera, and a new Lincoln MKS 2009 with a GPS with Sync availability. However, (here it comes) comparing something from yesterday and today is not the issue here with the look of the QV and the new QE compared to the QE2. When something looks nice and something does not look nice, that's it. If something is ugly, it's ugly regardless of time! What do you think? Terrence How right you are. The only good thing about the looks of the new "Queens" is, like when you are aboard a pontoon boat with "RENT ME" on the sides, you can't see how bad it looks from your perch aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted December 9, 2008 #19 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hi Jimmy, This is one of the nice features of these Boards that allows all of us to express our views about Cunard and the ships we have sailed on over the years. Please understand that I do not live in the past and love everything about "today", especially all aspects of technology that provided me with an iMac computer, iPod Touch, Motorola Razr V3 cell phone, digital camera, and a new Lincoln MKS 2009 with a GPS with Sync availability. However, (here it comes) comparing something from yesterday and today is not the issue here with the look of the QV and the new QE compared to the QE2. When something looks nice and something does not look nice, that's it. If something is ugly, it's ugly regardless of time! What do you think? Terrence Terrence, I agree with almost every point you have made - and please don't think for even one second that I thought you lived in the past. In fact, I'm rather suggesting the opposite, and simply speculating about how some of our current ships will be viewed when something like the lifetime of QE2 has elapsed. It's worth remembering that, when she first went into service, QE2 herself was not universally admired, and, in a much shorter time frame, many of the criticisms levelled at QV were also levelled at QM2 (I can well remember liner enthusiasts describing her as a "block of flats" etc etc). When I was a child (more years ago than I am prepared to admit on here) I can remember that just about every product of the Victorian era was universally regarded as ugly (or at best overly fussy), yet these same objects are now highly sought after antiques. Also, for the record, I happen to think that the Super Constellation was one of the most beautiful civilian aircraft ever produced. Perhaps design has evolved too far in the direction of function at the expense of style. Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted December 9, 2008 #20 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Terrence, I agree with almost every point you have made - and please don't think for even one second that I thought you lived in the past. In fact, I'm rather suggesting the opposite, and simply speculating about how some of our current ships will be viewed when something like the lifetime of QE2 has elapsed. It's worth remembering that, when she first went into service, QE2 herself was not universally admired, and, in a much shorter time frame, many of the criticisms levelled at QV were also levelled at QM2 (I can well remember liner enthusiasts describing her as a "block of flats" etc etc). When I was a child (more years ago than I am prepared to admit on here) I can remember that just about every product of the Victorian era was universally regarded as ugly (or at best overly fussy), yet these same objects are now highly sought after antiques. Also, for the record, I happen to think that the Super Constellation was one of the most beautiful civilian aircraft ever produced. Perhaps design has evolved too far in the direction of function at the expense of style. Jimmy Yes, I agree perhaps design has proceeded too far in the direction of function over style, at least as far as the super ships are concerned. These new ships are meant to accommodate masses of people and satisfy the appetites of those masses, making the super ship as little like a ship as possible. They are meant to be little more than a high rise hotel on water and their creation has almost as much to do with corporate greed as does the greed that has become apart of almost every other corporation in America. Don't take me wrong, I loved the QM2, its stability, its beauty and yes, even its functionality--but as far as a ship's style, it didn't measure up to ships like the QE2 or even the SS Britanis. And the QM2 is far more stylish than the newest of ships. Thirty years from now, perhaps these massive new ships will be the norm and the sleek ships of the past will be thought of only as dated ugly antiques, but for now, there are enough of us that remember what a ship was, to also know what the new super ship is not--and one thing it is not, is stylish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkyrmc Posted December 14, 2008 #21 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Hi all,That is a fantastic cut away of Queen Victoria,Is there one done of Queen Mary 2,If there is where can i find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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