meyerhaus Posted May 27, 2004 #1 Share Posted May 27, 2004 DW and I booked out Classic Southern Caribbean Golden Cruise for this July 11th last year in October through a major travel agent which will remain unnamed. For purposed of this post, I will call them Arlsoncay Agonlitway. Since then, we have made all of our monthly payments to them ontime and were paid up well in advance of 30 days. However, we have gotten nothing but trouble. First, we were not getting any statements saying that we had made payments. After 2 weeks of asking, we started to get them. Next, when we called to get the final payment amount, we had to call repeatedly in order to get an amount. When we finally did get an amount, it was $640 too high because the TA did not subtract the amount of our downpayment or travel insurance. Had we not kept records, we would have been WAY overcharged. Next, we started asking for a confirmation of final payment from Arlsoncay Agonlitway, which we STILL have not recieved. We also wanted a confirmation of payment in full from Princess, which we STILL have not received. When we went online 2 weeks ago to check our cabin assugnment and book shore excurions through the personalizer (and, let's face it, we all like to just go online and look at all the info!), we got a message that read "CANCELLED BOOKINGS CANNOT BE VIEWED!" I FLIPPED! We called Princess, and they said that Arlsoncay Agonlitway had not paid them anything since the deposit. I couldn't believe it. So, after straightening things out with Princess and having Arlsoncay Agonlitway OVERNIGHT our payment, we were told that everything was fine and that everything was the way it was before. (GOTTA SWITCH COMPUTERS! WILL CONTINUE IN 5 MINUTES) www.geocities.com/pattersandmenus Golden Princess 7/11/04 Big Red Boat-1993 (Amy) Celebrity Zenith-1993 (Jon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginza17 Posted May 27, 2004 #2 Share Posted May 27, 2004 did you pay by check..if so those would be your reciept of payment. Maybe call a lawyer friend to contact the agency and princess just to let them know you are serious about this issue. The TA is to blame since Princess is not receiving the coreect $$$ and dollars from them. Also it seems you are to " hands-off " on your approach. KEEP RECORDS.... Pete... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeabodyNVL Posted May 27, 2004 #3 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I suspect you won't use that agency again. We normally only make the initial deposit and final payment. If, God forbid, something happened inbetween the deposit and final payment and we had to cancel, it's just easier to have less money in the pot to worry about. Also, always pay by credit card...then you know whether the money got to the cruiseline or not, as the charge should be from the cruiseline, not the travel agency. And if something is disputed, you have some recourse. Make sure you get a receipt for everything you do with the travel agency and any changes that make occur. Any agency that doesn't supply these automatically isn't worth their salt. Pea 5/9 Golden Princess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe2ship Posted May 27, 2004 #4 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Why were you making monthly payments to them? Caribbean Princess 7/03/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongerob Posted May 27, 2004 #5 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I've never heard of anyone making monthly payments towards a cruise. It sounds like they are taking your money and putting it in their own savings account. Very unusual... Completed: Sea Princess, Royal Princess, Grand Princess (3X), Caribbean Princess, Golden Princess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toto2Kansas Posted May 27, 2004 #6 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I know I have heard of this before, and it is difficult for many travel agents to take monthly payments and each time issue a receipt. I might suggest that after you make your initial down payment on the cruise that you put away those monthly payments, either in a savings account or some other type of account so that you will not spend it, and then make ONE final payment to them, as this is the normal way to pay for a cruise. It makes it much easier on the travel agent and much less stress to yourselves wanting that receipt each time a payment is made. This might work with a small mom and pop agency, but very hard on those big companies with thousands of clients. Cruises are not usually sold on the installment plan unless you decide to put the charge on your credit card and make payments on that. The Travel Agency will not make payments to the cruise line, they will make inital payment, and then final payment when it is due, but not payments every month as you make them to them. Just way too much trouble for the cruise line and too much to keep track of. Sorry you had a bad experience, but that seems like a lot for a travel agent to deal with. ONLY IMHO of coarse. Tahitian Princess 10/14/04 RCI-Legend of the Seas 3/27/05 Panama Canal. One Phantom Booking still open with Princess. [This message was edited by Toto2Kansas on 05-27-04 at 09:40 AM.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyerhaus Posted May 27, 2004 Author #7 Share Posted May 27, 2004 CONTINUED: The payment is made and Princess did get it. The problem was not with the monthly payments and we did not have to pay all of the monthly payments. We did that so we would not spend it on something else! ANYWAY I was told that everything was the way it was before and we had the same cabin, etc. However, when I went to log on last night, all I had was a booking, no cabin. When I called Princess, they said that our cabion had been rebooked when we cancelled (it was the location that we wanted to a "T") and we were on a guarantee. Normally that would not bother me, but there are only 5 cabins left on the whole ship, so if they were booked up, we would have been Sca-rewed. So, we went ahead and grabbed up the last room in our category and are waiting and praying for an upgrade. We contacted Arlsoncay Agonliway USA and have not heard back. Oh, yeah! I also forgot to mention that we almost missed an upgrade a couple of months ago but I happened to call Princess to ask a question and they helped me upgrade us and save $200. Shouldn't my TA have been looking out for me all the way? Shouldn't he have looked for price-drops, followed up on payments, etc.? I am SO frustrated. I wish I would have known about CC before we booked. JON www.geocities.com/pattersandmenus Golden Princess 7/11/04 Big Red Boat-1993 (Amy) Celebrity Zenith-1993 (Jon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyerhaus Posted May 27, 2004 Author #8 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Ginza - We kept EXCELLENT records. THat is not the problem. The problem is that we have had a hard time getting our TA to get us reciepts and confirmations. The other problem is they didn't pay Princess! Peabody - I will definately keep that in mind. We did pay by check, but will pay by CC in the future. Toto - We did not by an installment plan; we just made monthly payments because we wanted to make sure we didn't get to the 90 day mark and be short. We are a younger professional couple and have really had to work to pay for this cruise. If it was too much for the travel agent to do, they shouldn't be a travel agent. All of their recipets are computer generated: push print and we have our account summary. They just didn't do it. JON www.geocities.com/pattersandmenus Golden Princess 7/11/04 Big Red Boat-1993 (Amy) Celebrity Zenith-1993 (Jon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isujim Posted May 27, 2004 #9 Share Posted May 27, 2004 It is not unusual for people to make monthly payments. Circumstances are different. My wife and I are retired and make monthly payments on our cruises. However, the difference is I go in to my local travel agent each month and give her my Visa and she calls Princess, RC or whoever and while I am sitting there she puts $500 on my Visa........then I pay it off each month and we do it again.........better than having a $3,000 payment on the due date.....but that is what is better for us. We obviously don't use an on line agency. We also normally book 9 months to a year in advance. After she calls Princess, I get a printed receipt before leaving her office. The headaches come when you want to pay your T/A with a check........then the T/A has to use their credit card to make a payment on your cruise. It can be done but it is a headache.. If you are using a local agency there should be no problem IF you use your own credit card. Jim Nordic Prince 8/88 Viking Serenade 3/93 Enchantment 3/01 Rhapsody 9/02 Splendour 4/03 Rhapsody, 9/03 Brilliance, 4/04 Until Our Caribbean Princess Cruise Until Hawaii on Inifinity Until Vision/Mexican Riviera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sue d. miller Posted May 27, 2004 #10 Share Posted May 27, 2004 One thing you might want to try, Jon. Email or call, and if you get an answering machine, tell them you lost your cabin and you are p*****. It was their fault, not yours!!You are a regular on cruise critic, and it has 100,000 members, and if they don't fix this to your satisfaction, the entire world will know what they did to you, and you have already talked to your lawyer!!! Worth a shot!!! I would do that in a heartbeat!! And talk to the supervisor, not the TA!!!!! Sue 7 days on Star Princess 10/24 GROWING OLD IS MANDATORY..... GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleacat Posted May 27, 2004 #11 Share Posted May 27, 2004 You should always use credit cards, that way incase the agency closes you can get it charged back, if you use check you're out of luck. Sue Mardi Gras '77 Horizon '91 Regent Sea '93 Sensation '94 Norway '95 Seaward '96 Granduer '97 Veendam '98 Nor. Sea '99 Imagination 2000 Century 2000 Veendam '01 Nor. Sea '02 Zuiderdam '03 Caribbean Princess '04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyerhaus Posted May 27, 2004 Author #12 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Credit Card or not, this agency was in the wrong. I will keep you updated. JON www.geocities.com/pattersandmenus Golden Princess 7/11/04 Big Red Boat-1993 (Amy) Celebrity Zenith-1993 (Jon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpeedo Posted May 27, 2004 #13 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I hope you can put this behind you and have a fantastic cruise anyway. It's coming soon! Get that precruise excitment going and pull out some suitcases. Might help! It is a real shame when a TA causes such anxiety for their customers. This agency may be in real finacial turmoil and you got the short end of it. Just an FYI, there are some online TA's where you can make period payments on your cruise. I know you can with icruise. Carnival Legend 12/05/04 Caribbean Princess 09/17/05 Veendam 11/26/05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnmiranda Posted May 27, 2004 #14 Share Posted May 27, 2004 As stated above, I suspect the travel agency is having financial problems. We had a problem similar to this in that we were billed twice for almost 3k and when I'd call the hotel direct they didn't have any record of our reservation. After a lot of hassle and trips to the agency as well as filing a complaint with the cc company the problem was worked out but it took several months to get our money back. I kinda had a heads up there was a problem eventually because the TA didn't sound too surprised we were double billed and then told us she was owed a prepaid vacation for being the highest sales rep and still hadn't received it 11 months later. It is up to you if you want to keep this booking but be aware they may be in trouble. In our case the agency closed a few months later. The deals were good, a little too good I guess or bad management. Majesty of the Seas (2) Norwegian Dawn Monarch of the Seas Diamond Princess Alaska Grand Princess 9/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruisey Posted May 27, 2004 #15 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Had problems also with the Canadian branch of that same TA promising the moon and not coming through.....so I dismissed them and book direct with Princess now. I also pay in installments to princess via credit card in CA dollars and never have a problem.Princess update my statement each time and e-mail also mail me a statement update. Sorry you had an experience with this TA company ,you obviously are not alone. I am with you- Kruisey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northender Posted May 27, 2004 #16 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Wow, I wonder if the CW agency that you used is a franchise. We use them for all our corporate travel and have found them to be doing a great job for us. Perhaps you may have to find out if it is a franchise and then call the head people in charge that oversee them and tell them your story. I would be sooooo pi**ed, I would want something from them, like shipboard credits, etc. So far you have reached people in the following areas: NY, VA, NJ, OK, FL, SC, MA and at least one Canadian. Let them know that also. Grand Princess 4/4/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sue d. miller Posted May 27, 2004 #17 Share Posted May 27, 2004 We are 100,000 strong.!!! And for all the cruisers that don't post here, will get it by word of mouth!!!!!! Sue 7 days on Star Princess 10/24 GROWING OLD IS MANDATORY..... GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyerhaus Posted May 27, 2004 Author #18 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Maybe the branch is a franchise. However, with the Arlsoncay Agonlitway name behind them, they should be backed strongly by them ! www.geocities.com/pattersandmenus Golden Princess 7/11/04 Big Red Boat-1993 (Amy) Celebrity Zenith-1993 (Jon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnmiranda Posted May 27, 2004 #19 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I'm pretty sure each branch is run independantly Agencies just pay to carry that name Majesty of the Seas (2) Norwegian Dawn Monarch of the Seas Diamond Princess Alaska Grand Princess 9/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italy52 Posted May 27, 2004 #20 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Jon I'm glad your situation worked out. I know how scary it is to look up your booking and not find it. We had booked through a respectable travel agency and paid our deposit with a credit card. We even received a receipt from the TA with the credit card number showing that we had charged our deposit to our AMEX card. A few days later after we received our paperwork I went into the cruise personalizer and looked up our booking number. The statement said there was no such booking number. I couldn't get a hold of my TA so I immediately called Princess. Princess stated they had not received my payment. I was stunned since I had a receipt for my credit charge. I called AMEX and they stated nothing had been charged. Called TA and she got everything worked out. Fortunately, our cabin was still available. What scared me is had I not checked, our cruise would have been nothing but a pipe dream. Now, I am overly cautious and trust no one. Hate to be that way, but mistakes/oversights do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhannah Posted May 27, 2004 #21 Share Posted May 27, 2004 What a regretable situation! It doesn't seem to matter that a big name is behind the agency. The service level will be only as good as the agent. Our first cruise was with a major agency, but I fired them after that. Very poor service, lack of response to calls or e-mail, etc. I've since found a good match who gives very good service and is available. We pay by installments ... but to ourselves. We have a special account we regularly put funds into. Then, at final payment time, the money is there to pay off the credit card. (We use the CC because of the mileage perk.) But I agree with the above posters who noted that it shouldn't be any big deal for any agency to take your payment and give you a receipt. If it is, then I suggest that maybe they're too big. 'Vegas Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyerhaus Posted May 27, 2004 Author #22 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Thanks for the votes of confidance. I am not trying to milk freebies out of them , but I am VERY dissapointed that we have not even recieved an apology or phone call from our agent himself. Had that happened, I would have chalked it up to a bad day. Now I consider it bad service, period. JON www.geocities.com/pattersandmenus Golden Princess 7/11/04 Big Red Boat-1993 (Amy) Celebrity Zenith-1993 (Jon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyerhaus Posted May 27, 2004 Author #23 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Hey, Jack! Love your show! www.geocities.com/pattersandmenus Golden Princess 7/11/04 Big Red Boat-1993 (Amy) Celebrity Zenith-1993 (Jon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseFever Posted May 27, 2004 #24 Share Posted May 27, 2004 That's insane! I don't have a lot to add to what the above have mentioned except my own view, as in what I would do if I was you. Your TA dropped the ball big time and they need to do something REALLY nice for you and or use their considerable clout to get you in a cabin that will exceed your original expectations if they ever hope to see a dime of your money again. How you paid is a non-issue, you did nothing wrong. Your TA IS set up to take occasional payments and does it all the time. If they're telling you different they are liars. One way is to make the initial deposit, with as little as possible, then pay the balance in full right before it's due date. I think a lot of people do that and as Spongerob noted, they keep their money in all its glory until the last minute. Others prefer to budget periodic payments. Perhaps it coincides with payday, a quarterly bonus, income tax refund, etc. Whatever works is game. I've said it before and I'll say it again; one of the most overlooked qualities a good TA will have is efficiency. Your TA was sorely lacking in this area in this specific incident. So often cruisers concentrate on the price offered or the personality of the TA and overlook efficiency. I would rather have an efficient TA any day of the week and not have things like this happen to me. I had a lousy one once and dropped him like a hot potato. It's their job to keep stuff like this from happening and it is NOT hard for them to do it. I can call any good TA I have ever had and they can get a confirmation showing all the details of my cruise including payments faxed to them, then on to me, within minutes . I am not trying to milk freebies out of them , but I am VERY dissapointed that we have not even recieved an apology or phone call from our agent himself. I would be looking for all that gift wrappped with a big bow! How much damage have you already done to their name by simply telling us your story? They need to take care of you Happy Cruising Chris www.LifeIsCruising.com Next up: Caribbean Princess 06/26/04 Star Princess 10/24/04 Diamond Princess 12/22/04 Carnival Miracle 03/13/05 Carnival Valor 10/30/05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northender Posted May 27, 2004 #25 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Agree totally wiwth Chris' statement to have it wrapped up in a big RED bow. When we inconvenience one of our clients, and it happens, if we are lucky enough to keep the business, you bet they are going to have a nice dinner and see a Red Sox,Celtics or Bruins game in a nice suite. I would start at the top and call the travel company and tell them how disappointed you are in one of their franchisee's service and expect some form of renumeration for your problems. They may be independant, but CW does not want their name raked over the coals. We have one near us and I will take a stand right now and not use them again. Too many good fish in the sea. Grand Princess 4/4/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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