Bruin Steve

Again, cruisemapper is in NO WAY official. It is just someone's website where they pick up whatever info they happen to find. They don't have a lot of info on Japan because 1) The official port websites haven't been updated since the pandemic and 2) Celebrity's website, for various reasons, isn't showing all of the information on their Asia cruises. The ship iusn't just disappearing for three months. They didn't arbitrarily charter three months worth of cruises that were already sold out. They aren't doing a three month drydock somewhere. And they haven't scheduled some other itineraries during this time period in some other part of the world. The cruises are "ON". We are sailing on two of them. We have booked air and hotels and shore excursions through Celebrity...as is NORMAL. I have been in DIRECT CONTACT with Celebrity regarding these cruises several times during all of this imagined controversy. There is nothing clandestine or subversive going on. Quite simply, Several cruises during this time period have been SOLD OUT for years. Celebrity mistakenly, due to IT error, double sold some stateroom categories and have had to cancel a large number of bookings. They currently have EVERY stateroom booked...and they have a long list of angry canceled customers they would try to appease before ever taking new bookings. Which is why they don't show the cruises on the schedule for "Find a Cruise". They DO, however, show these cruises on their website on the individual accounts of those booked on the cruise...and they show them on their app as well...along with full ability to book airfare, hotels, shorexes, dining reservations, drink packages, etc. These cruises were sold out, in their earlier incarnations,, years ago...since they have been canceled each year for multiple years during the pandemic. But, with Japan finally lifting restrictions, they are NOT canceled for 2024. Adding to the booking crunch, the cruises were returned to the Millennium after having been scheduled for the Solstice for the prior two years...meaning about 400 fewer staterooms for lift-and-shifts from a cruise that was already sold out on the larger ship. The bookings were so backed up that Celebrity decided to leave the ship in Asia and added an entire season of cruises beyond April--when, in prior years, the ship was scheduled to do a Transpacific and then a season in Alaska. It is all very simple. Conspiracy theories notwithstanding.

We've found both. Depends on the particular assistant cruise director or crew member handing the assignment. Some are lazy.

Pataroo, you may want to hop over and join the Roll Call for the April 9, 2024 cruise...here: It has been a very active roll call with a lot of information, commentary and exchange of ideas all related specifically to this sailing. It is one of our B2B cruises (along with March 28) and we definitely expect everything to be going full steam forward. We now have both air and hotel booked directly through Celebrity.

"Low price" is a relative term. Everyone has a different concept as to what is "low". And prices at ANY hotel, anywhere in the world, vary greatly depending on what dates you are booking it for (prices at many hotels vary high season to low season, some vary between weeknights and weekend nights) and they vary even more depending on WHEN you book them...It's all supply and demand and often go up over time...booking very early often gets you a much lower price. Some cities are far more expensive than others. Also, everyone has different standards. We generally will not stay in a hotel that doesn't reach a certain level of quality or that isn't in a prime location. Other people are willing to stay in what we consider pretty substandard accomodations or in some inconvenient locations. It's all a matter of personal preferences and standards. When we travel to Tokyo in March, we are staying in what is rated a 4.5 star hotel in an excellent location--and paying just over $300 US per night with breakfast for a "superior" room. As far as I can tell, for Tokyo, that is pretty much a bargain. In Barcelona, we stayed at the H10 CP this last time for under 200 euros per night including breakfast. For Barcelona, that is a bargain. Of course, each time, we booked the hotel several months ahead of time. Could we have found lower cost accomodationseach time? Probably less. But there are always trade-offs. I am fully convinced that spending a little more on a nicer hotel in a better location is worth every penny. Other people may be willing to stay in some questionable accommodations just to save a few dollars. But it is up to everyone to find that level with which they feel comfortable.

The story you get from RCCL agents varies by who you talk to. And they've changed the policies over the years. We just went through a C&A adventure with our upcoming Quantum cruise. Some background: My wife and I are Diamond Plus. We have two daughters, now in their 30s. When they were young, we took them on a lot of cruises...AND, from the age of 10 and 12, we always got them their own cabins--FULL PRICE--often balconies, even an Alaskan cruisetour in their own suite as teens. One cruise we took just one daughter as the other's school was in finals and paid FULL fare for her cabin even though she cruised as a "single". NO REASON I CAN SEE why they should be "reset" at 18 when their cabin was not just 3rd/4th berth in ours. THOSE should count no matter their age. I've spent more money on their behalf with RCCL than a lot of Diamonds who went on cheap 3-nighters in inside cabins in the off season to get to Diamond. Anyway, the older daughter, in her early 20s, went on Mariner of the Seas with her college roommate. She was DIAMOND for that one and her roomie got the benefits as well even though she'd never cruised before. Those were the rules then. When we took the daughters on a cruise in their mid/late 20s, I called RCCL to check and they told us daughter #1 was Diamond, but daughter #2 was not! Really? I got nowhere with the agent...Called back the next day, got another agent. Same story. I asked "So, when we all go for drinks in the Diamond Club, should we just have the other daughter sit out in the hall outside the Diamond Club door and wait?" The agent changed daughter #2 to Diamond. Now, the girls are in their 30s. We're treating them and our sons-in-law to an Alaska cruise on Quantum. Daughter #2 called C&A and, no problem, they made HER husband Diamond as well. Daughter #1 called and the agent she got told her that not only couldn't she get hers upgraded to Diamond, that, somehow SHE wasn't Diamond! Seriously? She has been Diamond on TWO cruises now as an ADULT prior to this. They pulled me into the call as a three way call. The agent wanted us to jump through all sorts of hoops. We asked to speak to a supervisor. We got transferred to the supervisor...explained in about 30 seconds what the problem was...NO PROBLEM. She confirmed daughter #1 was Diamond and promoted SIL to Diamond as well. Now we're set. One issue I discovered in all of this is that our daughters don't necessarily have the same point totals we do...but they weren't reset to zero either. Only thing is that, though they have that Diamond status for life, they won't get to D+ or to Zenith until their point totals get all the way to the needed numbers...and RCCL has at least one of the daughters actually short of the 75 for Diamond...so she's a little farther away...We're not going to worry about that. For the time being, we can all at least for the time being, we can all go to the Diamond Club together.

We were just on a cruise where one team kept winning all of the trivia games with some unreal scores--even getting correct some really obscure questions to which NOBODY possibly could have known the answers. Finally, one day, several people objected to a question where the host obviously had the answer wrong. But, again, this one team scored 20 out oif 20--even the clearly wrong answer. When someone showed the host the Googled correct info, one of the women on this winning team blurted out "Well...THAT was the answer on last week's cruise!". At tht point, we all knew how this team seemingly knew everything. The rest of us puzzled about how some people could take so much joy in "winning" anything based on having the answers ahead of the game. Between that and the people googling every question on their cell phone using their wifi package and the people grading their own papers and writing in the answers as the answers are given (Yes, we've seen both), it makes me want to never play Trivia on a ship again. As to the original point of the thread, we've gotten that $100 before...but, with our upcoming B2B Millennium Japan cruises, since we booked back in 2019 and lifted-and-shifted multiple times, we don't even remember if the $100 was ever discussed or accounted for...but, considering we'll finally get to do the cruises in 2024 and considering all the people who just got shockingly canceled, I've decided not to push the issue or otherwise mess with the deal. Not over $100. We don't want anyone messinfg with the bookings.

I'm relieved to hear they are not just arbitrarily downgrading people with chosen booked cabins (Though we're on two upcoming Japan Millennium cruises where they arbitrarily--well--due to THEIR errors--CANCELED people with chosen booked cabins). On our Japan cruises, we've had to fight for our cabin assignments several times--through each of several "lift-and-shifts"...but that was through moves from Millie to Solstice and back to Millie. Frustrating since we carefully choose our cabins for location, balcony size and other factors...and that exact assignment means something. Yeah, pay close attention whenever you make changes to your booking--because, even then, as far as I am concerned, there is no excuse for moving you unless you've requested it or, at a minimum, consented to the move.

Most of those "port schedules" that people search on the intrernet are NOT official schedules of the ports. They are privately operated websites which pick up the information by searching the cruise line websites. Since Celebrity pulled some of these cruises off of their available lists for some time now, when those independent websites scanned the cruise line websites, these cruises were not posted--hence, they failed to pick them up. The actual official port schedules for the Japanese ports have not been updated and posted for a long time. Nothing shows up on the official sites. The OFFICIAL site for the Port of Yokohama hasn't been updated with a ship arrival schedule since the 2021 schedule was posted.(prior to the pandemic).: https://osanbashi.jp/en/outline/ There is nothing posted for 2024. Other official sites are equally blank.

I've reported on it earlier in this thread...We've stayed there four times in the past year. WE LOVE IT. And we've been to Barcelona MANY times. We've stayed at the Hilton, the Gran Havana, the Continental, the 1898 and a few others. This one was our favorite. The rooms have been very comfortable, the breakfast is outstanding, the location could not get any better, the hotel staff is friendly and helpful. Sign up for their loyalty club on their website at the time of reservation and they throw in a lot of extras--FREE breakfast, a welcome drink at the bar, a bottle of wine in the room, chocolates to the room. They have champagne available gratis at the front desk. They have a free espresso/capuccino machine on the P-level with free pastries and sandwiches there for a good portion of the day. If there is any negative it's that they don't have a pool (though you can use the pool at another H10 hotel just around the corner of you want). The location is incredible. They are RIGHT ON the Placa Catalunya--the large public square at the head of Las Ramblas. There are dozens of restaurants of all types within a couple of blocks. All of the ground transportation opions--including the HOHO bus, the Aerobus to and from the airport, the subway system and more are within steps. The great El Corte Ingles Department Store with its outstanding basement supermarket is right across the Placa.

https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/bcnmd-le-meridien-barcelona/overview/ Nice Marriott hotel in one of the best locations in Barcelona--right on Las Ramblas not far from the Placa Catalunya and a very short taxi ride to the cruise terminal. I also highly recommend the H10 Catalunya Plaza and the 1898--both very nearby, but you wanted, specifically, a Marriott product and this one fits the bill. You are not going to find a better located Marriott.

Just join the upcoming one. By the time it's done, it will feel like it's 2025! 😁

Could use a little more information. Are you, hopefully, arriving at least a couple of days before your first cruise? Are you staying around after the second? And, how much time between those two cruises...Do you go from one to the next on the same day...or is there a hotel night between the two? Or more time? It makes a big difference. If it's the same day, you're just going from one side of the harbor to the other. If there's just the one night, best to stick around Long Beach...there are several good hotels and enough to do there to fill that small amount of time. If there are two nights with a full day in between, that gives rise to other possibilities. Assuming it's a single night, get an Uber (there is no subway between San Pedro and Long Beach and it's a reasonable 6-8 mile trip across the harbor), go to a Long Beach area hotel in the Downtown Convention Center area--One of the two Hyatts (Hyatt Regency or Hyatt Centric at the Pike) or the Renaissance, perhaps the Westin or Hilton...or, across the channel near the Carnival Terminal, the Maya Doubletree or Residence Inn Downtown. Then, spend the rest of your day touring the Queen Mary and Aquairium of the Pacific or walking around Long Beach (Pike and Shoreline Village) and have a nice dinner at one of the many nearby restaurant choices...then, the next morning, head to the Carnival Terminal and board the next ship. You really don't have the time to head elsewhere in the Los Angeles area. Hopefully, you fly in a few days before your first cruise and stay in Santa Monica...or, perhaps, Hollywood/Universal, West Hollywood/Beverly Hills, Venice/Marina Del Rey or some other area from which you can tour some of the Los Angeles sights.

It's not that I don't think I can't get a better lunch off the ship....It's just that, for some of us, it's not that simple. We are cruising out of Yokohama, Japan--24 nights, B2B. We are flying into Haneda FIVE days prior to the first cruise and staying in Shinjuku--so we will have PLENTY of opportunity to enjoy local restaurants. BUT on embarkation day, we will have breakfast at our hotel, then gather our things together, check out of the hotel and get transportation from our hotel in Shinjuku (Tokyo) to the port in Yokohama...At that point, we don't want to leave the bags at the port and find transportation back into town and back. We want to start the CRUISE PHASE of our trip. We want to settle onto the ship and have a nice, simple lunch, hit the bar to start our drink package benefits, unpack our luggage in the cabin...and relax. At THAT point, our wandering around the embarkation port and dealing with ground transportation is OVER. We don't need a great lunch, we need a relaxing lunch. Which is why I don't want to deal with a crowded hectic buffet. I'm paying MORE in the way of cruise fare to upgrade to "Concierge" and there should be some benefits that go with that. Access to a "Personalized Concierge service" means nothing to me...I am Elite Plus and have access to people. A free bottle of cheap "Sparkling Wine upon request" means nothing to me--I have a drink package. "Daily delectable delights" means nothing to me, I get plenty to eat onboard. "Complimentary shoeshine service" means nothing to me, I don't pack shoes that need shining. Basically, there is VERY LITTLE you get for the extra price of a Concierge cabin. Except the ability to avoid that crazy embarkation day buffet lunch.

This is all extremely disheartening. I HATE eating in the buffet. Not a relaxing meal. Food picked over by others. Nothing seems appetizing by the time you get to your table. One of the two of us is always away from the table finding more food. You can stand in line an interminable amount of time waiting on the pasta guy. And so on. On Princess, they have the MDR OPEN for embarkation day lunch for ANYBODY who knows that it's open (they don't publicize it much so only a percentage of the ship takes advantage). On Celebrity, we often book Concierge--though we get very little in the way of benefits over a standard balcony. So, we consider that embarkation day lunch, perhaps, the most valuable benefit of Concierge. It's NOT that it's a lunch. We get lunch on the ship anyway. On at sea days, we get it in the MDR anyway. On port days, we're usually NOT onboard anyway. So, substituting another lunch, to us, is worthless. Now, since the pandemic, we've been in suites or Aqua...BUT, upcoming in March/April, we have back-to-back Japan cruises in CONCIERGE cabins. We originally booked in 2019 and got lifted-and-shifted severl times...SO, clearly, we booked Concierge counting on this particular amenity. And, yes, at least for now, we'll get lunch in the MDR for the second cruise because we'll be B2B...but I still want that lunch...and want to AVOID THE BUFFET...on embarkation day for the first cruise

We're arriving at SeaTac at 10:55 am on Sunday, August 20. Staying at Fairfield Inn, Downtown (7th and John) one night. Cruising on Quantum of the Seas August 21. Disembark Monday, August 28...Flying out of SeaTac 4:25 pm. Questions: Airport to hotel: Uber/Lyft? Remainder of Sunday: What to do nearby? Dinner: Is 5 Point Cafe (near hotel) worthwhile? Other recommendations? Monday: Looks like less than 3 miles to RCCL Pier--Uber/Lyft? Disembarkation day: Get to Airport by what time? Too much time to kill, but will have luggage--any recommendations? Ship to Airport: Uber/Lyft? Thanks.

Wait...I'm supposed to get a "gift"? I am Diamond Plus. We were on Navigator in late January. We were on Symphony in April/May. We will be on Quantum in August. So far, nada. Well...on Navigator, we were supposed to get a beach towel as the regular D+ "gift". Never got it...they said they were "out". Then, they changed the "amenities" and took away the towels and such. On Symphony, we got a cheap bottle of wine as the D+ amenity... But NEITHER cruise did we get anything special for the 25th Anniversary. Do I expect anything on Quantum? No...They didn't even give us lobster on Symphony...

One thing a lot of folks don't realize is that the cruise line offers DIFFERENT types of guarantees at different levels. A balcony guarantee does not always mean "any balcony". You may not see these on the website when booking on your own, but a good travel agent will be able to book you a guarantee with more desirable parameters. When we booked our upcoming cruise on Quantum, our travel agent booked us three "Unobstructed Ocean View Balcony" guarantees (We're taking the kids)...We were assured not just balcony cabins but a specific minimum category of balcony cabins. When we finally got assigned, we got three Deck 13 midship category 1D Ocean View Balconies. We never bore the risk of getting, for example, an obstructed view balcony (a 1E or 2E on Quantum). Likewise, you can book an OCEAN VIEW Balcony Guarantee on the big ships and avoid getting assigned a park or promenade view.

One note: I CARE about the cabin location, etc. I prefer midship, I prefer near elevators...Some balconies have overhangs, some have obstructions...Some cabins might be right below the pool deck or a dance floor...Some cabins have larger balconies. So, given a chance to choose my own, it's preferable... EXCEPT... 1) Where the cost savings is great...and how much you'd have to save depends on YOU...or 2) When there aren't really any great cabins left if I picked my own. I just booked a 15 night segment on the otherwise World Cruise. Most of the ship is already showing as "sold out". If I picked my own cabin, the only two choices left were Deck 3 OVs in the extreme front of the ship. So, I saved $500 and took a guarantee. I cannot do much worse than had I chosen my own...and there's a much greater chance someone cancels and I get assigned a much better located cabin. Worst case, I get one of those cabins I would have booked if choosing my own, but saved $500!

Thanks. Done. Changed to the Fairfield. Points rate went down 1,000, so I could buy the extra points for $166. Marriott made it impossible to apply the $26 eCard though, so, now I'm stuck with an eCard I can ONLY use at the front desk of a Marriott hotel for charges, etc....but cannot use it to pre-pay a reservation or to buy Marriott points to turn right back to them for a reservation. CRAZY! At least I save about $17 over the Zone, get breakfast included and use those soon-to-expire points. And, hopefully, a nicer hotel in a better location. We'll Uber from SeaTac to the hotel and from the hotel to the pier, I suppose. And, since our plane gets in at around 11:00 am, we'll have a little time to do something in Downtown Seattle that afternoon.

Most of the hotels in Downtown Seattle more than double my one night hotel cost. I can afford it, I just don't want to do it just to miss some traffic. OTOH, I do have a few points with Hilton and Marriott...So, by using up my points and adding some cash, I can get: Hilton Garden Inn for $148 +points Homewood Suites for $153 +points Hampton Inn for $138 +points Fairfield Inn for $175 +Marriott points and use that $26 ecard to bring it down to $149... Springhill Suites for $166 +Marriott points and use that $26 ecard to bring it down to $140... What do you think of those options?

We just booked a cruise for July 2024 that goes 15 nights from Southampton to Copenhagen. We always like to fly in a bit early (usually somewhere between 2 and 10 nights) and do a nice "land" pre-cruise. In the past, cruising out of Southampton (or, occasionally, Dover), we've done the following: 1) Just spent a few nights in London (several times). 2) Hired a car and did a driving tour--Bath...Mold, Wales...Sterling (Edinborough), Scotland...Inverness/Loch Ness...York...Stratford-upon-Avon...London (actually, a post-cruise). 3) A week in Cardiff and surrounds with hired car. 4) 5 days in Canterbury with hired car (cruise out of Dover). 5) Ten nights (with hired car) in Cornwall, Devon and Dorset 6) Once we just flew to Madrid for a few nights, then flew on to Heathrow...and down to Southampton for a cruise. Usually head to Southampton for final night before the cruise This time, we're looking for something different...it's just that I'm running out of ideas. Also, getting a bit tired of hiring cars and driving all over (especially after dealing with the narrow roads of Cornwall which can be a bit harrowing at times). So, are there any other places in the UK in easy proximity to Heathrow and/or Southampton worth visiting for a few days? And how best to visit/where to stay? How many nights would you dedicate to the visit? How would you handle transportation? For example, is the Isle of Wight worth a visit? And, if so, how would one go there? Where to stay and what to see and do? Or is it merely a ferry and day trip from Southampton? Or, if one stayed several nights in Southampton, is there enough to visit in the nearby area and could one do it without a car? Remember, one of the difficulties is that we'll have a significant amount of luggage with us since we'll be on a 15 night cruise plus this pre-cruise plus, likely, a few nights in Copenhagen post-cruise. Any and all suggestions, recommendations or comments are appreciated. Thanks.

UPDATE: Basic history: Booked Wingate by Windham some time ago for one-night pre-cruise stay August 20. Booking included "Free Breakfast". Without ANY notice, hotel changed afilliation to Marriott, CURRENLTLY operating as "Zone Hotel SeaTac". After series of phone calls, Marriott located reservation in system. Sent email confirming. However, email did NOT mention "free breakfast", website says "Breakfast available $13 per person". BTW, multiple Zone Hotel reviews say "you can find a better breakfast in the dumpster outside the 7/11 ccross the street". Well, I contacted Marriott again, escalating it to executive offices. All I asked for is for my "free breakfast" to be reinstated as per my CONFIRMED original reservation. They told me they DO NOT include breakfast. I noted that the Marriott website actually has two different rates--one without breakfast, the other including breakfast. The difference in price between the two...DURING the phone call...was $20. I was told they would get back to me. FOUR DAYS AGO, I received a phone call AND an email. Was told (by voice AND in writing by email) that Marriot was settling the matter, if acceptable to me, by crediting my Visa card with $26. I said "okay". Crazy. All they had to do was to change the code on the reservation to the "with breakfast" rate. I know the hotel/restaurant business (I started my career working with major hotel and restaurant chains). There is NO WAY the food cost per person on their breakfast buffet comes anywhere close to $10, let alone $13. And we're heading out on a cruise...we are NOT pigging out at their low-rent "buffet. A glass of OJ and a croissant, perhaps? PLUS, to make it more bizarre, if they send me a $26 credit IN ADVANCE of our hotel stay, nothing even guarantees that we stay there. We can cancel up to 24 hours in advance! Well, they call back the next day. They say, for some reason, they can't do a "credit"...Instead they'll send me a Marriott "E-gift card" for $26. It will come via email. I'm still waiting...hopefully it comes in a few days. Also, they sent me an "Official" Marriott email confirmation. The email "letterhead" and all of the advertising following tjhe terms of the reservation ALL say "COURTYARD by MARRIOTT"... Hmmmmmmm. The reservation is for three months from now. According to a recent review, the hotel itself lacks identifying signage at present. I wonder...

Except...it really isn't just single gender relationships...Society has changed considerably over the years. A couple of generations ago, couples living together "without benefit of marriage" was largely unheard of...and divorce among married couples tended to be rare. Today, a good portion of couples, whether heterosexual or LGBTQ, tend to be together without formalizing the relationship through "marriage". And, many of these relationships last a whole lot longer than many formal, documented marriages. (What is the line I once heard from a stand-up--"50 % of all marriages end in divorce...but the other 50% end in DEATH!"). Is there really a lack of equivalency between a couple who get married, go on a cruise and divorce a few months later and an unmarried couple who have been together for 5+ years and may continue to be together for the rest of their lives? Is it up to a cruise line to enforce some people's notion of forcing people to get marrired rather than "live in sin"? Seriously, all Royal Caribbean...or any other cruise line...cares about--and SHOULD care about--is SELLING CRUISES...and you do that by making EVERY customer--whether married, in a relationship or related family--comfortable and happy with their cruise experience. If I've got 5 out of 6 family members (ALL of which I am paying for--and paying some farely high fares for), I want a consistent and easy experience...otherwise, I have other cruise line choices. RCCL knows that...and they want my business. I expect my daughter and her boyfriend to be together a LONG time...and they will likely go on more cruises...just as I expect my married daughter and her husband to stay married a LONG time and, perhaps, go on more cruises. I know what I have paid (and each daughter has paid) for cruises and, though maybe their spouse/S.O. just "married into it", I don't think they deserve the status any less than all of those Diamond members that got there by taking 10 three-night cruises in inside cabins during low season.

Back when the lines re-opened from the pandemic, we had B2B cruises on the brand new Celebrity Apex--in Sky Suites, so we had use of the Retreat lounge and other Suite amenities...AND the ship was two-thirds empty. So, I'd go drinking each night in the Retreat Lounge...and always sat in the same chair. One day late in the second cruise, I walked into the bar and one of the Retreat hostesses gasped "Oh, Steve...Someone's sitting in your chair...Should we move him for you?" I laughed... By the time we get on this one, I think it's nearing the end of the full trip...Last larger segment cruisers would have just boarded one mini-segment prior in Barcelona. I am sure many passengers will have ended their trip there as well. Maybe a few will depart in Southampton. I'm sure others aside from us will be getting on. If someone wants to look down on us as "newbies" or "transients", I'll ignore it. That would be THEIR problem. I am fairly well-traveled...I've visited 80 countries in my life thus far, many on cruises. I just don't think I have the temperment to stay onboard one ship for nine months! About a month seems to be the limit for me...We've done two month-long cruise trips in the last nine months. "Side-to-side" cruises (like a B2B but getting off one ship and on to another, sometimes with a few days in between) with The Western Med and a Transatlantic Reykjavik to Boston in August and a Transpacific Rio de Janeiro to Lisbon followed by a Western Med in April. I just like to schedule my cruising around other life events and commitments back home...and spread the cruises around. Interestingly, we will actully be in Japan/South Korea over the same time as the World Cruise will be there...just in different ports each day. We'll be doing back-to-backs on Celebrity Millennium out of Tokyo, 12 nighs each--starting with 5 hotel nights in Tokyo...We'll come home from that then fly to London for this one...