K.T.B.

47 minutes ago, rabin1 said:

Some of the cruise lines are headquartered in Miami.

 

What about HIPPA laws would they apply to this?

 

Kathy

Quite a bit more than "some".  Here are the ones just in Miami alone:

Carnival Cruise Lines.
Norwegian Cruise Lines.
Royal Caribbean International.
Azamara Cruise Lines.
Celebrity Cruises.
Crystal Cruises.
Costa Cruises.
Oceania Cruises.

Well, if anyone thought that cruise lines couldn't make it a requirement to be vaccinated, legal experts say that can:  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/can-businesses-require-vaccination-proof-experts-say-yes/

2 hours ago, rabin1 said:

check this out about Can Vaccines be required by businesses

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/can-businesses-require-vaccination-proof-experts-say-yes/

 

Kathy

Thanks for supplying that!  I already knew that was the case, but nice to see a good write up on it!

2 hours ago, KWW88 said:

Thank you Bill Gates!

GPS works great, too!  I never get lost going to the bathroom now!

16 minutes ago, Ride-The-Waves said:

Cruise lines could relocate to Texas and states along the east coast.  

Could, but it wouldn't logistically work.  Florida has 5 cities that have ports the cruises use.  In those cities that have, IIRC, at least 3 piers from which cruise ships dock.  No other state could handle it without some major renovations.

51 minutes ago, D C said:

DeSantis is probably making that stand to save face before rolling over.   

 

Or he's an idiot. 

Both of those are not mutually exclusive.

1 hour ago, ontheweb said:

Burnin Down the House

 

Talking Heads

Stop Making Sense.  I sense some irony there...

US is pausing the use of the J&J vaccine because of a potential blood clotting issue:  LINK

All I know is, since I got vaccinated, my cellphone is getting great reception now!  Just a coincidence I'm sure.

4 hours ago, Ken the cruiser said:

Sorry, if everyone is required to be vaccinated on the Phase 2B test cruises and Phase 4 restricted cruises, I'm not seeing the importance of the 12 hour requirement defined the the Phase 2A TI. But no big deal as it's a moot point now. 

Which makes me wonder if they are heavily leaning in that direction, hence the reason they did away with the 12 hour requirement.

5 hours ago, phoenix_dream said:

Appointments are not difficult?!?  Here in my state and county appointments are extremely difficult!  I spent hours online and on the phone trying to get an appointment for my 93 year old aunt.  I had to drive 2 1/2 hours each way to get my own shots.

Holy crap, seriously???  I got extremely fortunate that I got in and then Cook county open up 25,000 appointments, so then my wife got in as well!

If it's not too personal, which burb are you in?

26 minutes ago, KWW88 said:

SO SO shocking that Carnival Corp would do this, why ruin the frat party!  Arnold reports up to Micky, nuff said...

There's always one naysayer in the beginning.  This way when they acquiesce, he can say that he tried and look good to board members and anti-vaxxers.

19 minutes ago, voljeep said:

15 drink (alcoholic) limit per "Princess Day" -  which runs 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. the next day

 

Glock does NOT reset at midnight to continue drinking after the 15 ... It has been reported that bartenders 'might' serve you after 15, but you 'should' be charged

15 drinks a day?  Ok, I can sacrifice a few....

Mine's easy, they're my initials.  YEARS ago when I first logged on to the site, they allowed people to use their real names then, which I did.  I finally changed to my initials a few years ago to comply to current rules, even though no Host ever asked me to.

On 4/7/2021 at 12:55 PM, Potstech said:

And they do not have a supply of vaccine enough even to give all people one shot let alone two. They have failed miserably on getting the vaccine for their citizens.

And they closed their borders to the US because they assumed we'd be the issue.  They obviously needed to look inward and not outward.

2 hours ago, voljeep said:

even if the CDC somehow allows cruising to resume , whenever , what is the word about the LA and SF ports actually accepting cruise ships ?

No one knows yet, but every US port is being affected.

I'm perfectly ok with this.  When I'm in new ports, I tend to do ship excursions anyway.  And my next cruise will be entirely brand new ports for me.  Plus there are excursions you can book that allow for shopping as well.

1 hour ago, C-Dragons said:

Our next door neighbor, a husband and father of 2 young children, mid-thirties and was in excellent health, contracted the virus last summer. His loss of taste and smell has come back, be he is still experiencing fatigue. I am afraid he will end up being a “long hauler”, it's so sad.

I've read articles that have described the symptoms of long haulers as being similar to those who have Fibromyalgia. One of things they have to deal with is the depression that comes from the realization that their lives may never be the same again.

I agree that people who are hesitant to get the vaccine should be warned of all the possible long term effects of getting Covid.

They're aware, they just don't care nor do they think they'd ever get infected.  I have family members (well, by way of marriage) who got mild cases of it, but still have lingering affects.  They still think it's all overblown and just left media hyping it up.  Meanwhile they still can't taste much of anything.

3 hours ago, harkinmr said:

I hate to break it to you, but the cruise lines are making vaccines mandatory (except maybe Carnival).  They know that vaccinated passengers and crew are their ticket to a safe return.  What DeSantis thinks about mandatory vaccines is immaterial.  He does not have the authority (no matter how much he pretends) to prevent cruise lines from requiring their passengers to be vaccinated.

Boom.

3 hours ago, nocl said:

What exactly do you think that they will do that they are not doing now?

 

 

 

Right now this is a strong tropical storm.  If the CDC extends the order past Nov. 1, I expect to see a category 6 hurricane.  (Yeah, a new classification would be needed...)

1 hour ago, KWW88 said:

Yes but he has taken proof of vaccine out of the equation

HE may have, but the federal government and CDC has final word.  

Trust me, he'll blink if proof of vaccinations are required by cruise lines in order to start cruising again.

3 hours ago, wrk2cruise said:

We also have to remember that Nov 1 is the current expiration date of the CSO.  Nothing saying it won't be modified/extended/replaced with something which lasts longer.

If the CDC extends it, cruise lines will fight back HARD.

People are being vaccinated.  Cruising can be be safely done once enough people have been vaccinated and the entire ship full of people (absolutely no less than 100%) are vaccinated.

Now the CDC has given the cruise lines a chance to do what they need to do to get ready and, IMO, I think they're damn close.  There are still some logistics that need to applied and they need to either "crap or get off the pot" in terms of vaccinated passengers and crew.  I truly believe the majority of those who want to cruise have no issues with whatever rules need to updated and used to make sure everyone remains healthy.

39 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

besides, you know, the whole vaccine thing.

Along with wearing masks, social distancing, etc.

But, yeah, nothing.....