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  1. Well, they are still using hydroxychloroquine in Australia. The discovery of Ivermectin killing the virus in vitro was in Australia (Kudos to you guys). Update on Ivermectin as a prophylaxis: it is good for 6 months, so not long term, but not short term. If you know the progression of the disease and you read up on all the short term and long term effects of HCQ, then when you read those negative studies, it doesn't make sense. The Henry Ford study had shown there was a 50% reduction in deaths for their covid19 patients when the drugs were given in earliest part of the late stage (which is called the pneumonia stage or lower respiratory stage), basically as soon as they enter the ICU. If we had done that when the drugs were first available, the number of deaths in the USA would have been halved. The optimum time to give this drug is in the 1st stage, ASAP when symptoms appeared. We knew this back in March. If we had done this back then, deaths would probably be 10-15% of what it is now. We could have move the disease from a hospital setting to an outpatient setting. Currently, the USA has 10 times the number of deaths from covid19 than the entire continent of Africa. On a per capita basis, it is roughly 35 times. Guess what they take in Africa, it is not Remdesivir, Here is a report from an American Journalist in Brazil. Remember, Brazil took Sweden's approach and did not close their economy. https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/hcq-is-dominating-in-brazil/ In this video it talks of HCQ and Ivermectin use in Brazil. Do not denigrate this website and say whatever they are saying is junk. Just do what President Reagan said in the past, "Trust, but Verify". If Ivermectin as a prophylaxis works as they claim, maybe cruising could get back to where it was. All of you are waiting for a vaccine to return to cruising. A vaccine is basically a long-term prophylaxis. Most prophylaxis are generally short term. Ivermectin appears to be a medium term prophylaxis (and you can probably call it a short term vaccine.) In any case, it looks promising. We just have to wait for that study due sometime at the end of this month.
  2. If you listen to that song, you could have substituted "Silver Sol Colloidal" for "medicinal compound".
  3. It sounds a little bit like this: Enjoy a bit of your younger days!
  4. True, but that was more for to show anecdotal evidence that it works. The study for its use as a prophylaxis which is to be completed this month is what you should be looking at for the safety and efficacy of the medication. Since it is a generic, it has been around for awhile and you can google its history for its safety. As for how well it works for "covid19", isn't that what a study is for?
  5. It's your option, but it is approved for humans too. It is used to treat scabies. If the expected study shows that it works as a prophylaxis (I assume the volunteers are not sheep or cattle, but real human beings) and if it is very effective, the cruiselines may adopt it as a bridge until a viable vaccine becomes available. I don't know the procedures for this prophylaxis, but if it can be given at check-in, the cruiselines will adopt it in an instant provided there are no major side effects. We just have to wait for the outcome of the study, but since it is being used in various parts of the world already as a prophylaxis, I expect a positive outcome, but it may not be as effective across the board (but it appears to work for nursing home residents, so it will probably work for most viewers of this forum though most of you are younger.) All I am saying is that this is the road we may have to take in order to return to cruising as we know it. As for me, if I am ever exposed to a virus load, I would rather have taken a prophylaxis that is 90% effective than a vaccine that was only 30% effective even if the vaccine is more convenient. Let's just see what the future will hold.
  6. I have always believed that cruising would not get back to normal until there is either a cure, a vaccine, or a prophylaxis. Finding a cure may be decades away. A vaccine seems iffy especially if it is risky to those who are most-at-risk where it seems you are trading one problem for another. We may be left with a prophylaxis. The most common prophylaxis is hydroxychloroquine, used throughout the world whether people think it is safe or not. However, there is another one in the horizon that seems very interesting and maybe more effective than HCQ, Ivermectin, that generic drug one would take for scabies. It apparently kills the "covid19" virus in vitro in 2 days. Even better there is clinical trial testing it as a prophylaxis: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04422561 The trial should be done by the end of this month. Below is a video of what you may call an empirical study of Ivermectin as a prophylaxis: It is apparently being used as treatment for "covid19" throughout the world. Not as many as HCQ, but it is growing in number. Bangladesh and Peru seemed to have embraced it. There are 4 hospitals in Broward county Florida that is using it to treat their "covid19" patients. Granted, many studies are just starting or they are in the middle of them, but this drug appears very promising. Judge for yourself before Big Pharma and the MSM decides for you. Maybe the future is not as dark as you think.
  7. From your original statement you were inferring that the ICU was overwhelmed with covid19 patients. True to a degree, but my point was more like if you pour all of a half-full glass of water into another glass 2/3 full of milk (same size glasses), the glass that had the milk will overflow. If that glass with the milk had been empty, you would have no overflow. My other point was that the ICU was so full because of the 3 months backlog of sick people who got sicker because they were not allowed or too scared to be treated. As for my call? How about using some ambulances and transferring them to other hospitals whose ICU's are not as full.
  8. Here in Chinatown, San Francisco, we have some of the lowest number of cases in my area. Because of all the traveling between China and USA from the Chinese here in Chinatown, I expected it to be the epicenter of San Francisco, instead the district is one the district with the fewest cases. Right now, I ask my wife (who likes to gossip) if she knew anyone in San Francisco who had the virus and she said no. I don't know anyone who has the virus (excluding the celebrities or sport stars or government official who caught the disease). The people in Chinatown still buy their food on a daily basis. They are wearing their masks, but social distancing is impossible when you are shopping in Chinatown, forget about 6 ft, maybe 2 or 3 ft. Is everything a Potemkin Village?
  9. Hey I said there were spot shortages, but did that hospital in Houston had nothing but "covid19" patients in the ICU or just a large minority? Everything should be considered when one examine a problem. You have to keep your perspective of the situation. You just can't look at just 1 or 2 things.
  10. Those ICU beds in Fl & Texas are filled with 30-35% Wuhan virus patients currently. There may be spot shortages in some big cities. But the rest of those ICU beds are filled with people who should have gone to the hospitals in the last 3 1/2 months. This is the backlog of sick people who got sicker who are filling up the ICU's. If the ICU are overflowing with virus patients like NYC or Wuhan, the death rate should be skyrocketing, but it is not. Only more people getting infected, particularly young people. In Florida, the median age of those people getting infected is down to 35 with 21 being the age with most new infections. If you are under 60 and have no underlying medical conditions, you will survive with no problems. You can complain that the young should be social distancing and wearing a mask, but hey they look at all those people protesting and rioting and the press said that was o.k., but socializing was dangerous. Well, for that to be true, they have to be as dumb as rocks. To give you a little perspective, state of New York currently has 21,736 confirmed cases per million with a death rate of 1,659 per million. The country with highest rate of confirmed cases is Qatar with 35,952, but their death rate is 48 per million. I don't think the hospitals in Qatar are overwhelmed as most Gulf states are probably treating their "covid19" patients on an outpatient basis. The reason Qatar has such a high infection rate - they also have the highest testing rate in the world. As for the low death rate, they never stop using that anti-malaria drug that the FDA has removed that emergency use just a short time ago. That drug is used as a pre-exposure prophylaxis, outpatient treatment, and early hospitalization treatment. Here is a link to various studies - www.c19study.com
  11. You can look at cruisemapper.com to find any ship. Hard to tell by looking at this map, but Manila Bay may have the most ships. I guess it's cheaper to use a tender boat and traveling to your 1st embarkation port rather than flying most of the crew to the 1st embarkation port.
  12. As each day progress and you have to cancel cruises in the near future, you have to refund the customer's money or, maybe, give 125% of the cruise cost in FCC. The former ties up resources while the latter reduces the value of future income. They are aware that in the near future the ships will be capacity-controlled and there seem to be a greater demand than the limited supply. Having their customer's money for 2 months (90 to 150 days) doesn't overcome the cost of processing refunds (or giving FCC's). It seems to be a business decision to minimize some of their costs. Canceling/refunds on this scale plays havoc with their cash flow. I could be wrong, but when I look at their business model, that would be the way to minimize those huge movements in cash flow.
  13. We were on the Cape Town to Singapore cruise early this year. It was a 30 day cruise where we had enough to whet our appetite for the year. The Dec. 3rd cruise is the FCC that we have to use by year-end. It is quite logical to assume that our cruise will be at a limited occupancy rate, probably 50-60%, because within a couple of days, it went from a virutally empty ship to one that was almost all waitlisted. I can see where some people who were in recent canceled cruise could have booked themselves onto an Oct-Nov-Dec cruise of this year, but not enough to waitlisted virtually every cruise. We have a B3 with extended balcony so it will not be necessary to use Lido deck. In all, I expect our cruise to be canceled though I am not sure Oceania will add anything to our FCC.
  14. It may be, but the Dec. 20 sailing on the Riviera, a 14 day Caribbean cruise with holiday rates, still has 12 of 17 categories still available. I think Oceania is still hoping they can sail in 2020. There may be more Oceania regulars who are hoping they can sail in 2020. There can't be that many people who have FCC to use up in 2020 and are forced to book something in 2020 even if they may not want to sail like we find ourselves.
  15. Outsiders can do it, but the cruiselines themselves are bleeding cash. I don't think any of the cruiselines have any cash reserves to buy any more ships. No bank will lend them cash to do it (too risky). An outsider with cash can join a cruiseline to do it, but the cruiseline will probably have to give up equity in the company to the outsider in order to do it, not that great of an option for a cruiseline. Let's see if an outsider turns up.
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