RocketMan275

Lots of threads about upgrades to Haven. Yes, you're getting your hopes up.

Standard pricing. Lot's of cruise lines do this. They calculate the total cost of a cruise or airfare and divide by two (or four). Then they charge the first passenger the whole amount ($3000) and the 2nd passenger $0. By their standards the second passenger is travelling for free. Then in the billing that apply the average costs ($1500) to each passenger. They do a similar thing for 'kids for free' only dividing the total fare by four.

You may find requsting the same waitstaff each night in the Haven. Probably a greater chance than in the MDR. I would suggest making your specialty dinning reservation as soon as possible. You can do this beginning 125 days out. You can select the venue and the time on line. The concierge can usually make changes upon embarkation. He/she can also make your reservations onboard, but there is no real reason to wait. BTW, there is a on-shore concierge group that can assist you in making special requests prior to your cruise. You can contact them at 855-625-4283 or norwegianconciergedesk@ncl.com. All you need is your booking number. I recommend you call since they may make suggestions about things you might not have thought of.

I wouldn't spend a lot of time worrying about this. We've been on three Haven cruises and have always had at least two specialty dinners. I believe the choice of where to go for your dinners is more important than when. On our last cruise, we had the FAS+ which gave us four diners. We actually missed the Haven restaurant. While each night has it's pluse/minuses, we do not like a specialty dinner on the last night since we're usually getting ready to leave the ship. We also like to spend that night in the Haven where we can say goodbye to those who've servied us well.

I wasn't impressed with the Veuve Clicquot

All sea day cruises, if there are any, would be very rare and have significant limitations. Current law requires foreign flagged ships to make one port call in a distant port.

All our days on a cruise are 'sea days'. We almost never leave the ship while in port. We cruise for the ship. We really don't care where it goes.

You're assuming the legal action would be public. It could be a threat of legal action which would not be publicized but still resulting in consideration.

Our experience with CK was years ago, perhaps 2017, when the menu never changed and was very limited. Since then we've discovered the Haven and it fulfills our desires. No need to go back to RCCI.

NCL could do those things and still pursue legal action to recover damages from the crewing agency.

Of course, but you're assuming that the contract was met. NCL could raise a due dilligence claim that the crewing agency failed to properly vet the individual. We don't know how that would turn out but the possibility of a lawsuit is there.

Be sure and include the woman who was demanding NCL compensation of over $10K because NCL didn't inform her at the time of booking that they sold pepsi instead of coke on board.

NCL may well sue the Filipino Agency.

every cruise line does something similar.

A scam is a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation. Clearly, claiming something is free when it is not, is a scam.

I saw a similar price drop on a Haven booking about a year ago. NCL told my TA that since Haven was sold out, there was no price drop. My TA told NCL that the Haven could not be sold out since it was possible to book a Haven cabin. I got the FCC.

https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles/scam-or-deal-will-that-cruise-sale-really-save-you-money Passengers 3/4 sail free is a variation on the BOGO scam.

You'll probably find the price per cabin is the same. The cruise lines divide the cabin cost by four unless they advertise 3/4 sail free, then the cruise line divides the cost by two. Example: if a cabin, hypotheticall is $4000, the usual price is $1000 per person if their are four passengers. If the cabin is advertised as 3/4 sail free, then the price is divided by two and the price is $2000 per person. All the cruise lines do something similar.

We also preferred Windjammer to Coastal Kitchens. The italian place was very nice though.

The reason the Haven service charge is higher because of a higher standard of service not because of the butler and the concierge. The reason the butler and concierge are not included is because there is a wide variance in how much passengers choose to use their services. This allows passengers to adjust their gratuities to reflect how much they use t their services. Suggest you refer to this thread:

A report would have ensured he was never on another cruise ship again.

I am not saying Haven employees are union workers. I am saying that Haven employees are strictly limited in what they can do and that does not include anything outside the Haven waiting area. The union employees could perceive NCL employees passing out water, etc., as an enfringement on something that they could be doing which would increase union employment and salaries. If so, the union could file a grievance. No employer wants that to happen.

You really don’t understand how union shops work. If cruise line personnel did any of those things the unions could file a grievance which could result in penalties against the port, the city,and the cruise lines.

Are you saying that NCL should pay the port to provide additional seating, water, better instructions (signage)? BTW, who/how would NCL provide information on wait times?

Storage? We gave it all to Good Will.