Luxury section of ship or Luxury Cruise ships?

Luxury Cruising
Is it a state of mind?
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
All times are GMT -4.
The time now is 11:40 AM.
#61
Metro Atlanta, GA
233 Posts
Joined Jun 2018
I enjoyed your review - we just completed a cruise in a Haven 2 br villa and have already booked another. It had been years since we had cruised (various reasons - grad school, early widowhood, 90 yo mother with cancer). But with a little more time, and despite long work hours, we have a bit more time for travel (in a variety of places and ways, not just cruising).

That said, I am honestly stunned by the pure narcissism and shameless snobiness that I have seen in some of the responses to your review. We traveled in the Haven because we wanted 2 bedrooms, we could afford it, and we liked the benefits - however, we never convinced ourselves that we were there because we were somehow superior to everyone else. And the idea of the decor of cruise ships as garish... it absolutely is. The decor of most ships have always been just this side of hideous. But losing lunch over the carpets of the “lesser” cruise lines?? Egads people, do you hear yourselves?

My parents were educational administrators, my father ending his career as a college President. We cruised when I was quite young, before cruising had even entered to consciousness of 99.9% of the population. And, we had a more comfortable income that the vast majority of people we knew. But I was taught that I was no better than anyone and that attitude was modeled for me daily by both of my parents. I am today once again so very thankful for that upbringing and those parents.
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature

************************************************** ************************************************** ************
~ Cruisin’ since 1970 ~
Next two cruises are booked! It turns out that I have ended up being a
cruiser like my parents who began in the 1970’s - whodhavethunkit!?


#64
350 Posts
Joined Jan 2014
Originally posted by 2Beeze
I enjoyed your review - we just completed a cruise in a Haven 2 br villa and have already booked another. It had been years since we had cruised (various reasons - grad school, early widowhood, 90 yo mother with cancer). But with a little more time, and despite long work hours, we have a bit more time for travel (in a variety of places and ways, not just cruising).

That said, I am honestly stunned by the pure narcissism and shameless snobiness that I have seen in some of the responses to your review. We traveled in the Haven because we wanted 2 bedrooms, we could afford it, and we liked the benefits - however, we never convinced ourselves that we were there because we were somehow superior to everyone else. And the idea of the decor of cruise ships as garish... it absolutely is. The decor of most ships have always been just this side of hideous. But losing lunch over the carpets of the “lesser” cruise lines?? Egads people, do you hear yourselves?

My parents were educational administrators, my father ending his career as a college President. We cruised when I was quite young, before cruising had even entered to consciousness of 99.9% of the population. And, we had a more comfortable income that the vast majority of people we knew. But I was taught that I was no better than anyone and that attitude was modeled for me daily by both of my parents. I am today once again so very thankful for that upbringing and those parents.
It was I who brought up the garishness of the carpets. And if that is seen as being snobbish rather than aesthetically sensitive, then I plead guilty, but plead the headaches, as they used to say down at the Old Bailey. You got me bang to rights, Guv’nor.
Matters of taste are not about being superior to anyone but being true to oneself.
#65
1,509 Posts
Joined Jun 2003
Originally posted by Toryhere
It was I who brought up the garishness of the carpets. And if that is seen as being snobbish rather than aesthetically sensitive, then I plead guilty, but plead the headaches, as they used to say down at the Old Bailey. You got me bang to rights, Guv’nor.
Matters of taste are not about being superior to anyone but being true to oneself.
Headaches?

I thought it was ' the red mist'.
#66
Washington State
25,903 Posts
Joined Dec 2005
Originally posted by 2Beeze
I enjoyed your review - we just completed a cruise in a Haven 2 br villa and have already booked another. It had been years since we had cruised (various reasons - grad school, early widowhood, 90 yo mother with cancer). But with a little more time, and despite long work hours, we have a bit more time for travel (in a variety of places and ways, not just cruising).

That said, I am honestly stunned by the pure narcissism and shameless snobiness that I have seen in some of the responses to your review. We traveled in the Haven because we wanted 2 bedrooms, we could afford it, and we liked the benefits - however, we never convinced ourselves that we were there because we were somehow superior to everyone else. And the idea of the decor of cruise ships as garish... it absolutely is. The decor of most ships have always been just this side of hideous. But losing lunch over the carpets of the “lesser” cruise lines?? Egads people, do you hear yourselves?

My parents were educational administrators, my father ending his career as a college President. We cruised when I was quite young, before cruising had even entered to consciousness of 99.9% of the population. And, we had a more comfortable income that the vast majority of people we knew. But I was taught that I was no better than anyone and that attitude was modeled for me daily by both of my parents. I am today once again so very thankful for that upbringing and those parents.
Thank you for posting. So sorry for the difficulties that you have gone through but it is good that you were able to take a cruise in a Haven 2 bedroom suite with another cruise booked.

Definitely agree that people that may have money and sail on luxury lines are no better than anyone else. To be honest, this is a main reason why we do not typically cruise on ships with the "class" system. While my British born husband thinks that it is fine to be a bit snobby, it bothers me a lot. Our views are different since we were raised in different countries.

What NCL has done for us is to open our minds a bit to going on a cruise where you can just have fun and do things that you do not typically do (like racing in car on the Bliss). Our next cruise is on a premium cruise line - only for a quick 7 night getaway. Our expectation is that we will have fun and will also learn what a different cruise line offers.

At the end of the day, we will return to Regent ...... not simply because it is a luxury cruise line, but because once you are onboard, everyone is treated the same. No one knows or cares if you are in the largest or smallest suite on the ship (the benefits you receive from being in a higher category suite is not visible to others). We also appreciate the all-inclusiveness and not having to sign for things all of the time. Also, we have sailed on Regent so many times that the crew is like an extended family.
#67
350 Posts
Joined Jan 2014
Originally posted by Travelcat2
Thank you for posting. So sorry for the difficulties that you have gone through but it is good that you were able to take a cruise in a Haven 2 bedroom suite with another cruise booked.

Definitely agree that people that may have money and sail on luxury lines are no better than anyone else. To be honest, this is a main reason why we do not typically cruise on ships with the "class" system. While my British born husband thinks that it is fine to be a bit snobby, it bothers me a lot. Our views are different since we were raised in different countries.

What NCL has done for us is to open our minds a bit to going on a cruise where you can just have fun and do things that you do not typically do (like racing in car on the Bliss). Our next cruise is on a premium cruise line - only for a quick 7 night getaway. Our expectation is that we will have fun and will also learn what a different cruise line offers.

At the end of the day, we will return to Regent ...... not simply because it is a luxury cruise line, but because once you are onboard, everyone is treated the same. No one knows or cares if you are in the largest or smallest suite on the ship (the benefits you receive from being in a higher category suite is not visible to others). We also appreciate the all-inclusiveness and not having to sign for things all of the time. Also, we have sailed on Regent so many times that the crew is like an extended family.
I am with your husband on this point. But I think that one gets more snob value out of travelling on an all inclusive luxury ship, because all passengers are treated the same. They are all first class.
So you and your husband are both right.
#68
Auckland, New Zealand
752 Posts
Joined Jul 2015
Originally posted by Toryhere
I am with your husband on this point. But I think that one gets more snob value out of travelling on an all inclusive luxury ship, because all passengers are treated the same. They are all first class.

So you and your husband are both right.


Being snobby is not a good quality regardless of what class one belongs to. Self righteous and the sense of entitlement are present in any class too. There is hardly anything more boring than a self entitled crowd in an exclusive bar boasting whose boat is bigger ...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
Celebrity Edge 6 January 2019 Roll Call





#69
1,509 Posts
Joined Jun 2003
Originally posted by Kiwifromkiev
Being snobby is not a good quality regardless of what class one belongs to. Self righteous and the sense of entitlement are present in any class too. There is hardly anything more boring than a self entitled crowd in an exclusive bar boasting whose boat is bigger ...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
It would have to be whose boat has a helicopter landing pad.

I once saw such a vessel in the harbour in Monte Carlo.
#71
Florida
4,693 Posts
Joined Feb 2010
Originally posted by English Voyager
It would have to be whose boat has a helicopter landing pad.

I once saw such a vessel in the harbour in Monte Carlo.
Two of them in St. Barth for their New Year's parties + assorted other yachts with various water toys. It was the largest collection of expensive yachts I have ever seen in one place. Quite a few people must have oil wells in their backyards.
#72
Washington State
25,903 Posts
Joined Dec 2005
Originally posted by Kiwifromkiev
Being snobby is not a good quality regardless of what class one belongs to. Self righteous and the sense of entitlement are present in any class too. There is hardly anything more boring than a self entitled crowd in an exclusive bar boasting whose boat is bigger ...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
When people start talking about “things” they own, I bring up our twin Toyota Corollas which is probably the least expensive car around.
#73
350 Posts
Joined Jan 2014
Originally posted by Kiwifromkiev
Being snobby is not a good quality regardless of what class one belongs to. Self righteous and the sense of entitlement are present in any class too. There is hardly anything more boring than a self entitled crowd in an exclusive bar boasting whose boat is bigger ...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
When I referred to “first class” I was referring to class of travel rather than social class. But I agree with you.
Of course there is the even worse social problem of reverse snobbery, where people compete to be “ordinary”. That’s when self righteousness really gets an airing.
I can’t stand people boasting about their possessions. But people praising beautiful things and admiring good taste is not really snobbery, or at least is a snobbery that is forgivable.
The important thing is to praise the best without insulting those who do not have the best.
Travelling on an all inclusive, luxury ship is good because the people on board don’t have to worry about the status between themselves, but can enjoy the fact that hey had the good taste to travel in style and at some expense.
It’s about living up to one’s own standards, not denigrating the standards of others.
#74
350 Posts
Joined Jan 2014
Originally posted by Floridiana
Two of them in St. Barth for their New Year's parties + assorted other yachts with various water toys. It was the largest collection of expensive yachts I have ever seen in one place. Quite a few people must have oil wells in their backyards.
Yes We were parked alongside 2 or 3 of those mega yachts with helicopters at St Barth when we were on SeaDream on NYE.
#75
Auckland, New Zealand
752 Posts
Joined Jul 2015
Originally posted by Travelcat2
When people start talking about “things” they own, I bring up our twin Toyota Corollas which is probably the least expensive car around.


Oh, how funny - my DH loves driving our DD’s (who now lives in a different city and does not want a car there) little red Peugeot , especially taking it to his professional association’s meetings, parking it in between various 500’ and 600s


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
Celebrity Edge 6 January 2019 Roll Call





#76
Auckland, New Zealand
752 Posts
Joined Jul 2015
Originally posted by Toryhere
Yes We were parked alongside 2 or 3 of those mega yachts with helicopters at St Barth when we were on SeaDream on NYE.


We do get some of these in Auckland - a lot of them visit during our summer, the biggest I think was The A - she was quite a site, nothing like anything else !


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
Celebrity Edge 6 January 2019 Roll Call





#77
Tulsa OK
8,462 Posts
Joined May 2006
Travelcat, just found this as I don’t really ever visit this board. The decor of the “Bliss” looks hideous, very cheap looking public areas with the exception of the French restaurant, and awful carpeting. Your suite looks ok though. But there is never a way I would cruise on a ship this large, and George would probably jump overboard.
#78
Washington State
25,903 Posts
Joined Dec 2005
Originally posted by RachelG
Travelcat, just found this as I don’t really ever visit this board. The decor of the “Bliss” looks hideous, very cheap looking public areas with the exception of the French restaurant, and awful carpeting. Your suite looks ok though. But there is never a way I would cruise on a ship this large, and George would probably jump overboard.
If you and George experienced the ship the way we did, you both might have enjoyed it ("only" 2,000 passengers on board).

Check back here the week of September 2nd when we board a currently unnamed ship for a 7 night Pacific coastal cruise. The goal is to see how "luxurious" one of the top suites is with the special restaurant and lounge. Then, in a year (also September), we will be on another 7 night local cruise on a cruise line that I've said many times that we are not interested in saying on!
#79
NY, ZG/Colorado
1,034 Posts
Joined Jun 2013
Originally posted by Travelcat2
If you and George experienced the ship the way we did, you both might have enjoyed it ("only" 2,000 passengers on board).

Check back here the week of September 2nd when we board a currently unnamed ship for a 7 night Pacific coastal cruise. The goal is to see how "luxurious" one of the top suites is with the special restaurant and lounge. Then, in a year (also September), we will be on another 7 night local cruise on a cruise line that I've said many times that we are not interested in saying on!
I believe your unnamed cruise is on Celebrity? I have cruised in top suites on Celebrity and find the experience quite nice. I saw you posted on the X board about tipping in Michael's Club. I am assuming this is the cruise you are on?

The best butler ever was on X Solstice in the CS. We make our own luxury when cruising with them and actually have a lot of fun.

One thing to note: If you are on a shorter cruise you may have a different demographic in terms of passengers. We found that out by doing a B2B out of Sydney to Fiji Islands. Spring Break Aussie style. ( Just like the Caribbean and US passenger.

However, the 2nd leg from Sydney to Auckland (all of NZ) was wonderful. Lovely demographic of sophisticated and well dressed travelers. Just an FYI.

Hope you are on a similar 2nd leg we experienced. Regardless, have fun.!
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature
"I haven't been everywhere but it's on my list".....
-Susan Sontag
#80
Metro Atlanta, GA
233 Posts
Joined Jun 2018
Originally posted by Travelcat2
Thank you for posting. So sorry for the difficulties that you have gone through but it is good that you were able to take a cruise in a Haven 2 bedroom suite with another cruise booked.

Definitely agree that people that may have money and sail on luxury lines are no better than anyone else. To be honest, this is a main reason why we do not typically cruise on ships with the "class" system. While my British born husband thinks that it is fine to be a bit snobby, it bothers me a lot. Our views are different since we were raised in different countries.

What NCL has done for us is to open our minds a bit to going on a cruise where you can just have fun and do things that you do not typically do (like racing in car on the Bliss). Our next cruise is on a premium cruise line - only for a quick 7 night getaway. Our expectation is that we will have fun and will also learn what a different cruise line offers.

At the end of the day, we will return to Regent ...... not simply because it is a luxury cruise line, but because once you are onboard, everyone is treated the same. No one knows or cares if you are in the largest or smallest suite on the ship (the benefits you receive from being in a higher category suite is not visible to others). We also appreciate the all-inclusiveness and not having to sign for things all of the time. Also, we have sailed on Regent so many times that the crew is like an extended family.
Thank you for your nice response. The world is just turning far too quickly into an uglier place it seems to me and some of the posts just struck me as following that sad lead. I love the Haven and am so thankful we are able to afford to be there, but I do not take it as my due or as an indication that I am superior. I will have another look at the Regent as I know exactly what you mean when you talk about being among peers - while I do not wish to sail with snobs (honestly), some of the river cruises have been appealing because as a 57 yo with a Ph.D. and no taste for either alcohol or partying, I think I might find more of people similar to me there for better or for worse 😁
Expand Signature
Collapse Signature

************************************************** ************************************************** ************
~ Cruisin’ since 1970 ~
Next two cruises are booked! It turns out that I have ended up being a
cruiser like my parents who began in the 1970’s - whodhavethunkit!?