Changes in RC Blackjack

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#1
USA
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Beware. Rate of payment for Blackjack is now 6 to 5 rather than 3 to 2. My ten dollar bet now only gets $12 for bj rather than $15. My $15 bet now gets $3 rather than $7.50. Big loss for players -- especially if you play a lot over the course of a cruise. It now day 5 of my trip and I have been tracking my blackjacks. Have lost almost $150 with this new rule. Will have to consider in the future if I will even gamble. This is a slap in the face to Blackjack players. The $25 table is still 3 to 2 but I prefer not to play that amount. Katherine
#2
Tallahassee, FL. USA
289 Posts
Joined Dec 2000
Hello,

What ship are you on? Also, I know that the single deck games pay 3 to 2, but you are saying that the multi-deck tables
where the minimum bet is under $25 all have a 3 to 2 payout on blackjacks now?

I am just trying to make sure I understand as this would be pretty bad for us players.....

Thank you for the info.
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#3
Plant City, Florida
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Joined Feb 2012
It seems like cruise ships and the LV strip have pretty much ruined BJ. It looks like I might just play the pass line on craps my next cruise.
#4
USA
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Joined May 2011
Grandeur. The only BJ table paying 3 to 2 is the $25 table. The single deck, $6 and $10 tables are paying 6 to 5. We heard from a dealer on Harmony that this is fleetwide. The $15 tables, if they have them, might still be 3 to 2, but not sure about that.
#7
New York City
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Joined Aug 2004
Originally posted by Tutontow
It seems like cruise ships and the LV strip have pretty much ruined BJ. It looks like I might just play the pass line on craps my next cruise.
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Tutontow: Sounds like the way to go. Also, take the odds. The odds on the Pass Line and on the Come bets as well as the Don't for each of those bets are the only bets in the casino that pay true odds.
#8
DFW
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Joined Jul 2014
Originally posted by Casino Player
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Tutontow: Sounds like the way to go. Also, take the odds. The odds on the Pass Line and on the Come bets as well as the Don't for each of those bets are the only bets in the casino that pay true odds.
Oh yeah, continuing the beatings, RCCL offers single-odds only on craps.

(FWIW, NCL was 3-4-5 and Princess and HAL were both double-odds when I sailed with those lines.)
#9
New York City
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Originally posted by Big_G_111
Oh yeah, continuing the beatings, RCCL offers single-odds only on craps.

(FWIW, NCL was 3-4-5 and Princess and HAL were both double-odds when I sailed with those lines.)
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Big_G_111: Any of the six lines owned by The Carnival Corporation has 2x odds on the craps table. RCCL only offers single odds. Still, even at single odds you have a better game that at anything in the casino. NCL and Celebrity offer 3x-4x- and 5x odds. The higher the odds at craps does not necessarily make it a better game.
#10
Tallahassee, FL. USA
289 Posts
Joined Dec 2000
Originally posted by Casino Player
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Big_G_111: Any of the six lines owned by The Carnival Corporation has 2x odds on the craps table. RCCL only offers single odds. Still, even at single odds you have a better game that at anything in the casino. NCL and Celebrity offer 3x-4x- and 5x odds. The higher the odds at craps does not necessarily make it a better game.

While minimally better, if you bet at least $15 on the pass or come, you can take the following odds:
$15 on 4 or 10
$20 on 5 or 9
$25 on 6 or 8

Also, if you are betting at least $25 on the pass or come, you can take double odds on RCI ships (at least that has been my experience).

Good luck!
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#11
New York City
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Originally posted by Otterman34
While minimally better, if you bet at least $15 on the pass or come, you can take the following odds:
$15 on 4 or 10
$20 on 5 or 9
$25 on 6 or 8

Also, if you are betting at least $25 on the pass or come, you can take double odds on RCI ships (at least that has been my experience).

Good luck!
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Otterman34: What line or lines that does that? That is a better than advertised game. However, there are some players that do bet more than that, at least initially.
#12
Tallahassee, FL. USA
289 Posts
Joined Dec 2000
Originally posted by Casino Player
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Otterman34: What line or lines that does that? That is a better than advertised game. However, there are some players that do bet more than that, at least initially.
Hey CasinoPlayer,
I have done the betting amounts and odds on my last 3 cruises (all RCI ships). 2x on Freedom, and most recently in March on Oasis of the Seas.
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#13
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Actually it is worse than just 6 to 5.

For a $6 bet, they pay $7, instead of the $7.20 actual 6 to 5 payout.

So for each BJ on a $6 bet, you lose $2 ($7 versus $9 payout).

That said, I made $120 playing the last cruise, on small betting. And I had a lot of fun.
#14
New York City
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Originally posted by SRF
Actually it is worse than just 6 to 5.

For a $6 bet, they pay $7, instead of the $7.20 actual 6 to 5 payout.

So for each BJ on a $6 bet, you lose $2 ($7 versus $9 payout).

That said, I made $120 playing the last cruise, on small betting. And I had a lot of fun.
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO SRF: You are on vacation. The object is to have fun.
#15
USA
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Joined May 2011
So . . . After starting this thread I am now on Anthem. No 6 to 5! One dealer on Harmony emailed that it was 6 to 5 fleetwide, but here on Anthem a dealer said it is being "tested". So if you see 6 to 5 blackjack payout on any ship -- complain! The 6 to 5 odds really hurts the player and gives the casino,another advantage.
#16
New York City
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Joined Aug 2004
Originally posted by Lady Hudson
So . . . After starting this thread I am now on Anthem. No 6 to 5! One dealer on Harmony emailed that it was 6 to 5 fleetwide, but here on Anthem a dealer said it is being "tested". So if you see 6 to 5 blackjack payout on any ship -- complain! The 6 to 5 odds really hurts the player and gives the casino,another advantage.
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Lady Hudson: Any bet that gives a player less than true odds, which happens to be most bets, hurts the player and gives the casino a huge advantage. That is why I like to play craps and stay only with certain bets. Those bets either pay at true odds or close to it. In any casino game the house will win most number of decisions. If you could play true odds you will play close to the house most times unless of course, you have bad luck.
#17
285 Posts
Joined Nov 2009
Originally posted by Casino Player
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Otterman34: What line or lines that does that? That is a better than advertised game. However, there are some players that do bet more than that, at least initially.
I think every casino lets you do that because it's easier on the dealers. It's a nine chip payout.
$15 on the pass, $15 odds on 4 or 10 payout is $45
$15 on the pass, $20 odds on 5 or 9 payout is $45
$15 on the pass, $25 odds on 6 or 8 payout is $45
It's only useful on rccl because of the single odds. I also like it when the game is fast, it's easy to spot when a mistake is made.
#18
New York City
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Joined Aug 2004
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO someranddomidiot: Not every casino allows you to do that. When I am on a Carnival Cruise to include all the cruise lines that Carnival owns they allow only double odds. Celebrity allows 3x-4x-5x odds. RCCL allows single odds. When I tried double odds RCCL didn't allow it.
#19
285 Posts
Joined Nov 2009
Originally posted by Casino Player
HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO someranddomidiot: Not every casino allows you to do that. When I am on a Carnival Cruise to include all the cruise lines that Carnival owns they allow only double odds. Celebrity allows 3x-4x-5x odds. RCCL allows single odds. When I tried double odds RCCL didn't allow it.
lol, there's no incentive to bet that way in any casino that gives you better than single odds. you only need it for RCCL.